Colbert: Stop ignoring gun violence (new definition of insanity)

We don't speak the language?

Ooops - you got nothing.

What would you do? grab for your gat and get blown away? Pretty damn stupid if you ask me. Then again, if you make it difficult for someone to break in, you would have a chance to react, right? And, remembering that anything can be a weapon, and you know where all the "weapons" are in your house, then you can defend yourself, even if you are not armed with a gun.

FYI - note that I never said I didn't have a gun or guns in the house. You may now continue to jump to conclusions, as you seem so good at it.

 

yeYes

Correlation does not equal causation

Yes I shouted - that is because this is the second time I have had to make this rebuttal

You could point out the rise and fall of hemlines on that graph and get a correlate

 

What's your solution to someone breaking into your house as a gun owner? Guns are just one line of defense in home security, but you're suggesting other forms of weapons in the home that you would use. What would those be?

How would you respond?

 

Colbert is the new definition of retarded.

 

It's pretty clear, unless you are a lockstep liberal. Liberals would prefer more murders, just as long as they could seize and control other Americans guns.

 

Liberal's just want to ban guns for the greater good, a few sacrifices of sheep would have to made when the sheep dogs are disarmed and can't defend themselves against the wolves any longer.

And when the wolves get enough welfare as seen in disarmed England and Australia, they will become sheep like the rest of us.

Imagine a world with no religion, its easy if you try. No heaven above us, just sky.

 

How long do we have to sacrifice as sitting ducks at the idiotic "Gun Free Zone" alters before we do something about it?

Been like that for years and it is CLEARLY not working.

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Hey I wonder what grandma is gonna do when a 220lb criminal with a baseball bat breaks into her home....

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Oh yeah, we do, but it's the hoplophobes and librobots that won't go along with it.

We've endured your stupid "gun free zones" long enough, that clearly do no nothing but make people sitting ducks.

I don't know how you or your ilk sleep at night knowing that you helped so many die.

 

Pepper spray - cheap, and can be stashed here and there around the house; baseball bat (sawed off if preferred); even new ones aren't that expensive; cast iron skillets; knives; your choice. Or, just get the hell out of the house.

How much training have you had in pressure situations like a gunfight? how often? what makes you think you can instantly react to a gunman? is it the right one, or someone like yourself, similarly armed who just pulled his piece? If you have no good answers to those questions then you're a walking, armed hazard to all when you're on the street thinking your gun will save you and others.

 

Crockery - a friend told me about coming out into the kitchen/dining room to find someone trying to steal things - she started throwing crockery while her flatmate phoned the police. When the police arrived the guy was pinned down behind the sofa surrounded by broken dishes and begging to be arrested. Every time he had poked his head around the sofa she had aimed a cup at him

Wouldn't work in a country where you arm your criminals of course

 

Crockery, books, kids toys on the floor - me with my hair in curlers...............

Exactly - so many of the pro gun people are "internet warriors" who may have fired a pistol at a range somewhere but have never been through combat training

There have been multiple research studies showing that the average untrained person has a poor response to sudden confrontation

 

Interesting because "gun free zones" where the NRA response to Columbine - yep that is right - it was their original suggestion

What? The same grandma who is a little demented, blind as a bat and was last seen wrapping the cat as a Christmas present? You are going to let HER have a gun? How many relatives do you want to knock off before you can disarm her?

 

What part of "correlation does not equal causation" are you..............

Oh! Apologies - remembered right wing America has limited education which is why they hate "educated liberals" so much

Put it simpler

Just because you can point out some things on a graph does not mean those things caused the problems. What illicit ("that means illegal) drugs were available during the peak times? That is because drugs like "crack" caused an increased tendency to violence, oops sorry I mean people who took the naughty drug were more likely to do naughty violent things

 

My Bachelors in Economics and Communications from UCSD and MBA from UCLA (Anderson) is a "limited education"?

When you have cause and effect so closely related over a long period of time, it's pretty easy to understand the relationship. Unless of course you have another explanation for the trends displayed. If so, please offer them. All you have done so far is deflect and throw rocks. Where is your theory based on the data presented?

 

It is difficult to believe that you would attempt to ridicule the education level of right wing Americans when you clearly don't know how to construct a sentence, don't know the appropriate place to use the past tense and have absolutely no idea how to use punctuation.

I assume you must consider yourself to be one of the "educated liberals" you mention, so it really is odd that your communication skills are at the borderline illiterate level.

Is your post meant to be a joke, or are we looking at unintentional humor?

 

Well if you're willing to use other lethal tools then why not a gun? It's certainly faster and more effective than a knife, and I wouldn't want to defend myself with a knife if the robber had a gun.....

Even if you have a gun, retreating is still an option, it's not either/or.

While being armed with a gun is no guarantee that you're going to win a gun fight, not having a gun almost certainly results in a loss.

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I think we just found the worlds worst robber. Either that or he was under 12.

 

You'll have to excuse our inferiority to the master races existing in the rest of the world.

 

I wonder how you sleep at night knowing that these loopholes in the laws have allowed tens of thousands of guns out onto the streets in the hands of criminals.

 

Guns are lethal; that's what they're designed for. The other items I mentioned (not sure about pepper spray) are not necessarily lethal, but can be, just about as anything else could be.

Actually, if you can, I would think that should be the first option.

I don't know whether this is still valid, but if so, it invalidates your assertion:

Those persons with guns in the home were at greater risk than those without guns in the home of dying from a homicide in the home (adjusted odds ratio = 1.9, 95% confidence interval: 1.1, 3.4). They were also at greater risk of dying from a firearm homicide, but risk varied by age and whether the person was living with others at the time of death.

If that doesn't do it, then there's this showing states with the highest firearms ownership also are right up there in gun deaths per 100K.

 

You got it, polly. Clowns like Colbert are the "experts" that the Left looks to to do their thinking for them. No wonder we have sunk so far. We now have a late night TV talk show mentality.

 

Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime: In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent. Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent. Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent. Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates: Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent. During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent. Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent. Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent. At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent. Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women. - See more at: http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847#sthash.fO5watSv.dpuf

 

Then don't buy one. How many bottles of whine are you going to open about this. No one is making you buy a gun. I just bought one yesterday and you and your ilk will never get your hands on it, emphasis on ever.

 

Oh, dear me. You poor pathetic person to live in such a state of fear and paranoia. It must be tough.

 

I'm not the one whining constantly. Obama talked me into it.

 

That's right. They are lethal. They are also the best tool for stopping someone, especially if they are also armed with a gun.

I said retreating was an option. It is situational. There is no way I am leaving my house without my family getting away safely.

The studies are bunk. They are funded and backed and reviewed by people whos objective is to get rid of guns. The first premise, "how many guns per state" is a completely wild guess generated from pre-determined models.

If someone breaks into my house, I assure you he is in much more danger than I am.

By the way, in a recent post didn't you just indicate you were looking to purchase a couple low cost AR's as gifts? If you feel this way or believe any of this baloney, why would you contribute to the problem?

 

I've never been in a gun battle with one or more people; don't ever want to be, either. A gun, any gun, IMO is a last resort and should only be used in that eventuality, never as a first resort. Unfortunately, too many stupid people use it that way with the resulting deaths and injuries.

Fair enough. Don't disagree.

Oh, please, now you're starting to sound like one of those climate change deniers. And wouldn't it be nice if we did have accurate facts? Ever wonder why we don't?

That was mostly conversation. Actually, I have absolutely no need for an assault rifle, or anything that looks like one.

Well, you could have fooled me. And your personal paranoias are your problem, not Obama's.