Colbert: Stop ignoring gun violence (new definition of insanity)

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  1. Korben

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    ah that's stupid, one, that's NOT what you said, two weapon enhancements in general are stupid. So a bad guy rapes a woman with just his size and he get's what a year, uses a gun he get's what 11 years, how is that just?
     
  2. Xenamnes

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    Do not believe for one moment that your proposed solution is any different from doing nothing whatsoever. Ultimately your proposal will yield no beneficial results, and will merely add to the bureaucratic nightmare that is the united states.

    If tens of millions of people are forced to undergo psychological exams before being allowed to exercise their constitutional rights, beyond the issue of lawsuits and litigation, there will be an extensive backlog due to there being too few qualified mental health professionals to properly review all the applicants. Much as the backlog in the justice system forces most cases to be resolved through a plea bargain, mental health professionals will be required to make qualified decisions based on limited interaction, ensuring nothing but inaccuracy. Individuals who should never have access to firearms will be given a pass, while those who never should have been denied ultimately will. Cracks will be slipped through, massacres will continue, licenses will be lost.

    Do not assume that your suggestion amounts to anything of actual merit. Yours is just as much do nothing as anything else. You simply do not see it because it is presented in a manner that you find favorable.

    That is assuming that a solution can actually be made to exist. It cannot. One must simply accept that, no matter what is done, murders will continue to occur, and the loss of life will always be considered unacceptable. Mass murders have long been regarded as unpredictable, meaning there is no readily presentable solution for addressing their existence, and how they can be stopped, since there is no one thing that can be pointed to as an indicator of what may or may not happen.

    In simple, uncomplicated, easy to understand terms, stop believing that a solution exists, or can be made to exist. Mankind is not meant to solve every problem in the world. There are some things for which nothing can be done, and that fact must simply be accepted. To believe otherwise is to exercise naivety.
     
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    Except there is no evidence of the substitution effect
     
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    easy-to deter others from using guns to commit crime

    easy-because having a gun while you are committing a crime of violence greatly increases the chance of an innocent being killed
     
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    1. I never suggested screening everyone before they could purchase a gun. That would be something you entirely injected in the way of a straw man argument.

    2. So again your entire argument is do nothing.

    Have fun in your own little reality, while the people who care try to fix things.
     
  6. tomfoo13ry

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    That pretty much sums up the gun control lobby: The idea that a bad proposal that won't solve the problem is preferable to doing nothing. It makes them feel good and that's all that matters. And God forbid you point out the flaws in their plan. Doing so inevitably results in asinine comments about how you are responsible for dead children simply for not going along with the off the top of their heads, poorly thought out designs.
     
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  8. Xenamnes

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    The ultimately what is it that you are suggesting? What were you trying to say when you stated the following?

    Do you care to elaborate? Or do you intend to continue with an approach of gibberish? What are you suggesting, if it is not a system that is ripe for abuse by a mental health professional that is politically motivated?

    And your proposed solution is no better. It is also doing nothing, just in a different form. One position is to accept that the situation is not something that can be solved, just as tsunamis cannot be stopped. The other position is to believe that government will be able to make a problem cease so long as it holds sufficient authority to do whatever it pleases in the name of a particular goal. It has already been witnessed how such a proposal has failed to end the war on drugs, the war on poverty, and any number of other social issues that many claim simply must be addressed by government as the ultimate authority.

    Your position is just as much a do nothing suggestion as anything else that has been offered up.

    You will try, and you will ultimately fail. No matter what you suggest, government is not the answer to the problem. Others have recognized that fact as the truth, while you continue to refuse to concede that the situation is hopeless, and beyond the ability of man to address.
     
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    you can't change human nature with a law
     
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    I am a life long demo and I voted for Obama. But I totally disagree with banning any type of weaponry. Why you might ask? I spend a great deal of time in Mexico. There is no 2nd amendment in Mexico. Citizens are jailed if found with a pistol or anything other than a gun allowed by the government. Certain guns are allowed only if you own property in rural areas. These legal guns cannot be further than your home. Sooo the citizens of Mexico are sitting ducks for all manner of thugs who have lots of guns and control people through fear. If gun legislation bans certain types of weapons who do you all think will still possess them? Somehow I cannot picture a terrorist or a criminal showing up to register or turn in their gold plated semi:angel: Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Granted auto and semi auto kill more at one time. But if you ban certain types of firearms you are only increasing the odds against law abiding citizens. The guns are already out there, the barn door is open and the cows are in the cornfield.

    I disagree with all the hate rhetoric against any politician or leader because the climate of hate in this country is helping to fuel the violence. I believe hate, whether religious, political, racial, gender driven or whatever is the cause of the increase in violence. The talk shows, churches, mosques, politicians, bigots and every promoter of this us against them mentality is making it worse. Hitler used this rhetoric to great effect. We are all united in our love of country. Can we just drop the hate, please.
     
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    Liberalism is societal suicide. I don't feel like drinking the Kool-ade just because it makes you feel better yourself.
     

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