Israel, Mired in Ideological Battles, Fights on Cultural Fronts

Yea I long for the good old days before arrogant keyboard warriors could pass judgement on others without fear of exposure.

Life was so much easier when you could just knock the bastard out.

 

Now you construct a Jewish mistress to convey your anti-semitic taunts to me with? Lol.

Good Jew bad Jew now posed through a constructed Jewish mistress. Right. I am sure she thinks I am a bad Jew. Right. Lol.

Man Raeb the more you respond the more sad your responses become-do you really need to hide behind a constructed Jewish mistress to say what you want to say to me? Really?

By the way Mr. Raeb, your Jewish mistress if she is a Jew would be well aware its spelled Hora or Horah just like Hanuka is spelled Hanuka. Chanuka, Chaunkah. There is no one way to spell it. Any Jew would know that.

Lol.

Here Mr. Raeb knock yourself out:

http://religion.wikia.com/wiki/Hora_(dance)

Man that was lame.

 

Lol you tell me, because you did respond. Lol, you seem confused with yourself. You coming or going?

 

I was trying to be conciliatory but since you yet again want only to insult, why mention your precious silly dance if you would be offended by someone talking about it. Grow up and start understanding that what you hold dear might mean nothing to another, man up! You take victim hood to a new level. That I live with a Jew and have Israeli stepsons I have mentioned a few times as you are well aware of.

By the way hows the cancer?

 

Ria Raeb I have had a chance now to respond to your other statements in post 963:

You stated:

" I posted a very well known video Defamation which deals with antisemitism"

You posted a tape that is a mock documentary created by anti-semites to ridicule Jews. Yes it is well known on all the hate sites.

You then stated:

"This is relevant to the thread and relevant to my idea that some Zionists are trying to shut down debate by accusing people of antisemitism."

It does not show that at all because this thread continues as does your non stop continued attack on Jews. By the way I am not "some Zionists" , don't hide behind those words. You mean me. You've accused me of doing this over and over, don't now switch to "some Zionists", not to worry Mr. Raeb I can take it directly you need not couch it.

You said, "You claim to know what I think,"

I respond to your words yes. Sorry to burst your bubble but I don't spend any time psychoanalyzing you. That's a tad narcissistic.

You said: "and you have advanced this Good Jew Bad Jew nonsense."

No not me. You. Take ownership of the tactic. The latest lame exercise of posing your comments to me through a Jewish mistress, well it says it all about posing the Good Jew to attack the bad Jew.

You said, "I think this good jew,bad jew idea sucks."

No of course you don't, its why you continually play it out as a tactic on this board when responding to me.

" I am not much of a Nationalist,"

Stop making the post about you. Its not about you. This narcissism does it ever end?

You said: "Really, I thought a Jew should be perceived as a person, I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) if they are Jewish or not, why do you?"

Of course you do. When the Jew is a Zionist you insist on attacking them and insulting them and demonizing them


You said: "Well I am an anti-zionist and I do not think that, looks like a pretty poor idea to me."

Of course, it enables you to insult Jews using the word "anti Zionist".

You stated: "So the your saying the zionist made the only good Jew a dead Jew, why?"

I never said that. The above represents a garbled attempt to give a different meaning to what you think I said.

You stated: "Unfortunately the nationalist Jews who believe they recreated their own country did so by terrorism, armed conquest and by denying the right of the Indigenous population."

Yes you stereotype any nationalist Jew as a terrorist I know that-and its precisely the demonization of Jews using the pretext of calling them nationalists I challenge.

You stated: " An estimated 350,000 Palestinians were displaced before any Arab army took one step against Israel. It was an independence declared unilaterally and secured by force of arms. "

Your restatement of the origins of the War of Independence have already been debated. They are not the issue of this thread and your attempt to derail the topic yet again I have no intention of following.

You asked: "Can you provide a link to this centuries old script?"

Sure, any of your posts on this thread.
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You stated: " No I think the world is increasingly enraged with the way Israel treats the people they occupy and murder. I certainly do not see it as impertinence, rather occupation, expansion and murder."

I think your now presuming you speak on behalf of the world is a tad narcissistic and presumptious. How about you stick to speaking for yourself and refrain from being spokesperson for the world.

You stated: " But I do not condone Hamas terrorist tactics."

Could have fooled me. Thanks for the clarification.

"Israel already has nuclear weapons apparently, and the idea that Iran will obtain them is entirely subjective."

Yah. There's no objective evidence of Iran's agenda. Lol.

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You stated: "You are talking about Israeli's why do you keep acting as if you represent all jews."

No actually you do. You slur them and all Jewish Zionists so I respond stating your slurs and negative genralizations about the motives and beliefs of Jews, Zionist Jews and/or Israelis is your subjective fabrications not their thoughts. I don't claim to speak for anyone but myself or when I present quotes, the opinions expressed in those quotes. You have me confused with you.

You stated: "Confession is good for the soul, so religous types tell me."

You mistake me for a Catholic. Thanks I don't engage in confession. But hey I know you think I am a demon, a bad Jew who needs to repent. Kind of over-stated by you at this poin t.

You again stated: " No I state above I think the whole good jew bad jew thing sucks, so you really could not be more wrong about me."

O.k. tell that to your Jewish Mistress.

You stated: " I do not want to call you a bad Jew, more to the point I never have. You appear very confused."

No, you've done it many times, the last time through a Jewish Mistress construct.

You stated: " Perhaps if you stopped calling me names(see previous posts) we might debate the issues."

Your idea and notion of debate is to make slurs against Jews, insults against Jews justifying these slurs, these attacks against Jews because the Jews are bad, i.e., Zionist, and as long as you do I will challenge that tactic and the others you use to advocate that agenda as hateful to Jews.

You stated: " But I object to being called a coward,a bully,a Nazi, a holocaust denier etc etc, is that strange that I defend myself."

No its not strange at all you lack empathy or insight as to the implications of your words and portray yourself as a victim.

You stated: "Yes the days of colonization being acceptable are over, about time you realized it."

That is precisely why we Jews created a state, because the days of colonizing us are over. You do realize it and so do I and its precisely
why you come on this board and presume to tell me to crawl back to living in a colony and be stateless.

 

Your need to construct a Jewish mistress to speak for you and now use her and your stepson to suggest you don't hate Jews speaks for itself.

I never thought you'd get to the point where you would stoop to such a tactic, its not conciliatory. The religion of your "mistress" and "stepson" are not relevant at all to the discussion. Why you hide behind their religion is transparent-to try suggest you can't hate Jews with your comments.

Wow.

By the way I survived cancer in two places. Thanks for asking. Lol. I encourage all men over 40 to get regular check ups with their doctor as I did which enabled early detection. By the way my doctor was not a Jewish Zionist. He's lol a Muslim. Man the irony kills me.

 

Dream on mate, I know the truth. You can only guess, and if you deny that you really do need to see a doctor. You have been exposed time and time again, I enjoy showing the truth. Now how about we both prove to a moderator who we are and whats true?

 

Please read back over previous posts, tomorrow I shall show where you repeat allegations, dodge debate and falsify over and over. In the meantime lets review you previous insults to me and other posters.

What you have demonstrated is intolerance, ignorance and bigotry. This is why you have zero credibility How absurd and pathetic Ria your passive aggressive attempts to bait are pathetic. Now run along and bait someone else. Trust me you keep your head in that space the answer will sooner or later dawn on you when you try sit down. Ria your bigotry and attempts to justify it speak for itself If instead of posing as a Jew or a Rabbia foolish and petulant. You in fact ridicule them. You ridicule me. All you can do is ridicule. that demonstrated is you think you can ridicule me.You ridicule me
ridicule my.to ridicule my supposed.Your decision to ridicule.is anti semitic. ridiculing Jewish religious beliefs.to ridicule me then you will be called out as an anti-semite.you are a bully who needs to be challenged.This is President Obama who is so stupid.Obama is a miserable CIA failed scheme.
Obama is a CIA invention-a barely concealed Muslim stooge-a prop-an invented President.Obama is a pathetic, transparent, Muslim puppet stooge.
It blew up in his smarmy face. continues to exhibit your lack of credibility.You just uttered an anti semitic statement and then top it off with yet another bully taunt.I believe Obama is a Muslim Brotherhood stooge and puppet.That doesn't make you less anti semitic-it just makes you more of a bigot.So lets clarify, you hate Christians too. insincere and hateful you are.I have stated that to you in the past. Your hating Christians as well does not change your being an anti semite, in fact it just proves the point you are a bigot. Being bigoted against Christians does not magically absolve you of being unbigoted towards Jews it just makes you a multiple target bigot.Pathetic Ria. boxed yourself into a corner you couldn't crawl out of.you insult and hate not just Jews but Christians.I called out Ria Raeb for making bigoted statements. anti semitic diatribe. Let me make this clear to Ria and Creation and Ronstar. The fact that Obama is a Muslim or gay is no big deal to me.Here I am not aluding I am saying, the above shows you insult and hate not just Jews but Christians.I called out Ria Raeb for making bigoted statements. The whole lot of you engaging in holocaust denial have hijacked the thread. I say hear loudly, the anti semites on this board who use the holocaust denial tactic to attack Jews or the soldiers who fought against them-the best they can do is hidebehind anonomous names on web sites to launh and incite their anti Semitism. Alexa's response typifies the new holocaust denial game. You are an anti-Semite. Alexa is an anti-Semite. Creation is an anti-Semite. You all have demonstrated you use denying he holocaust or questioning how it happened as a method to question the existence of Israel. That is blatant anti-Semitism. To come on this forum and admit the agenda is to use holocaust denial to question Israel's state of existence as you have speaks for itself.This thread shows you are anti semitic as are the others. I am disgusted this thread has been allowed to pass as debate. Its not debate. Its taunting, baiting and name calling by a bunch of anti semites who jump all over each other using holocaust denial as a baiting tool.bull crap number game Alexa. No Ria Raeb you won't hijack this thread with Creation and Alexa and engage in anti-Semitism and think I will remain silent. Here I am.Now let's deal directly with your anti Semitism.pretend you are not an anti semite.Deal with the fact I am calling your words out as hateful, anti-Semitic, bigoted and ignorant.The lot of you yse cowardly words to attack holocaust victims. Lets spell it out Ria. Let's spell out your agenda and the agenda of Alexis, Creation, Shiva as evidenced in your words on this thread:"The calls for the dismantling of Israel and shouts to kill Jews on the streets of London, Paris, Berlin, and Frankfurt, to name some of the major European cities where they’ve occurred, are indicative of a lethal anti-Semitic mass movement. What unifies many Euro.pean elites, large numbers of Muslims, motley crews of leftists and neo-Nazis is a loathing of the Jewishness of Israel. Go on Alexa, Grau, Creation, Rua deny you are part of the above agenda with your holocaust denial.Anti-Zionism as you use it is inherently anti-Semitic.Its because its Jewish you hate it.You believe the Jewish people should be dispossessed, against their will, of a fundamental right that they currently enjoy: namely, the right of self-determination. Your views are blatantly anti Semitic.Do I look like your step and fetch it boy Riab. Oh I get the tactic you bunch of bigots.Go on spit it out Ria, tell them what you want-Jews as dhimmi-the good old days when Jews knew their place as inferiors.But here is the most cold hard fact of your bigotry, your hatred.In your anti-Semitic world,Your bigotry, your hatred, your abject ignorance and insensitivity. You use the holocaust and its memory as a pretext to engage in a smeer of anyone who supports Israel's right to existence.You trivialize the holocaust.You call the holocaust logical.You call the mass extermination of Jews as making sense.You are no victim. You and Grau and Creation have come on this forum to use the holocaust as a political exercise to spit on Israel I am the one who called you and the others anti semites. self appointed Jew Judge. Do you like playing the role of Josef Mengele. hate Jews of all kinds. back to anti semitic, hateful name calling. Yes I see its just like a super Jew hating vitamin anti semites can take to boost their hate Jew blood cells I guess.anti-semitism, the hatred for Jews it oozes all over the thread like pus from a wound.

Every single, word above is from is from Yetzerhara, Every single word is from this thread. Every insult, every accusation, every subjective opinion. Not a single fact there. I am not antisemetic, it is Yetzerhara's subjective opinion. No where on this thread do I or any of my fellow posters claim they hate Jews. Not once. Look at the words used, look at the slurs. And Yetzerhara has not one single fact to back any of it up, not one single fact, not one.

NOW YOU HAVE ONE GOAL TO DISCREDIT MYSELF AND OTHER POSTERS WITH THE CHARGE OF ANTISEMITISM

I do not report these slurs, fabrications and insults because I want people to see just what is being attempted here. They can follow the thread, see the fabrications, see the mis-interpretations, see the insults, see how you do not use the quote system. This thread since page 30 has been wrecked by Israeli supporters doing nothing more than attempting to use,

accusations of antisemitism and Holocaust denial to stifle debate and take away the focus on the real victims, the oppressed, occupied and murdered Palestinians

But this is my favourite quote from Yetzerhera,

I think your name calling shows you can't address the issues so attack me personally. Go on call me all the names you want it is to be expected.w your record of insults to me and other posters.

 

It was what is called a "Rhetorical question"

Now it's your turn to fathom the true & nefarious meaning behind "R" & "q", their numerical place in the alphabet, the date of the post multiplied by its Post number divided by 666 & how it proves me to be an anti Semitic Russian rocket expert.




“Yetzerhara”:
EXCERPT “I find interesting given your pen name on this forum is Grau.

For those who do not know, Grau refers to the Main Missile and Artillery Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation (GRAU) a department of the Russian Ministry of Defense directly subordinate to the Chief of Armament and Munition of the Russian Armed Forces. Interestingly the R in Grau was inserted and derives from rockets and was added into the title in 1960 as any good comrade knows.
So Grau you an expert on rockets?” CONTINUED

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=442230&page=71&p=1065888046#post1065888046


Prepare to wrap yourself in glory, again. L.O.L.

 

I had a brief look at the continued posts on this thread and the thought that came to my mind was not that posters were delusional, which they clearly are but rather psychotic - out of touch with reality. The saying does appear to be true, if you give someone enough rope........ However late last night I came upon what I think may be the ground from which such hysteria shines forth - Canada. It has long been one of the most cherished boasts of the Jewish community that they argue over everything, that argument is encouraged, that indeed people are taught to think for themselves and not just take what they are told. Sadly this has ended for Canadian Jews concerning Israel.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/tyler-levitan/canadian-jewish-israel-criticisms_b_9359872.html

Clearly this is where the out of touch with reality posts which this thread are full of come from. Brainwashing. The stasi would be proud. How sad that the Establishment stance of a people who once prided themselves on their belief that people ought to have the right to disagree and think and speak freely has become one of censoring free thought through bullying and intimidation into silence rather than honest debate due to the brainwashing they received in their childhood. Waste of time trying to debate with such people as has been obvious for a very long time and this thread makes most explicit.

 

No I posted a well known documentary called Defamation and provide a link. We have discussed this already, you ignore that to try to give some shred of credibility to your claim it is antisemetic.

No the debate on the thread topic stopped long ago, since page 30 most of the debate has consisted of posters defending themselves against accusations of antisemitism. The agenda was quite clear, move the debate to attempting to discredit posters.

This is just rubbish I never hide from confronting you I enjoy it, dream on!

No you claim to know what I think. It is hardly surprising I might think you tried to psycoanalyze me since you did it with another poster.
http://www.politicalforum.com/middl...ogical-battles-fights-cultural-fronts-75.html post 742.
Again showing your double standards.

No, again you raised the subject, you make claims other posters do it. The only other time the subject has been raised is when another poster showed how this accusation is recommended in the Hasbara handbook.

Again I simply do not, it would appear to be a tactic on your part.

Did I dare to tell you what I think, rather than allowing you to tell forum what I think?

Right so at least you have accepted I am not antisemetic, I just disagree with Zionists.

You wrote the only good jew is a dead Jew or something similar, and I disagreed.

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No it is me making the thread about me again! Having the audacity to say what I think rather than you saying what I think!
(that's a bit of irony by the way)

Here is what you said,


Today, the only good Jew is a powerless Jew willing to become a dead one.
Let me rephrase the question, Why do you write, the only good Jew is a powerless Jew willing to become a dead one.?
Happy now?

WTF are you talking about?

You brought the subject up I argued against it, do not think I will let revisionist history go unchallenged.

So yet again when asked to provide evidence for your subjective claims you say no.!
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Yet again you show your lack of English comprehension, "I think the world" is not presuming to speak for the world, it just isn't. That you think it is is so funny. How about you take some english lessons and stop being a spokesperson for idiocy.

Would not take much I agree.

Evidence of Irans agenda (even if it existed) is not evidence it will get them, lack of comprehension again.

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Just go back over previous threads, you call just about everyone and everything that does not agree with you antisemetic. Try a self awareness course.

No, I am an atheist, I think you are many things but goasty wobbles is not one of them.

Thanks she read it for herself, she thinks you are exactly what is destroying Israel, and the reason she does not want her boys anywhere near the place.

Wrong on all counts, now show where I have called you a bad Jew?

Yes, it was a silly idea of mine, that we might debate the topic, you are here to stifle debate and character assassination!

Yes we are aware that Israel and its most ardent adherents do not want compromise or reconciliation just total domination. You are a proud cheerleader for the Zionist cause.

Never claimed I was a victim, just keep highlighting what you do. We all know there is only one victim in the world!

You stated: "Yes the days of colonization being acceptable are over, about time you realized it."

Israel was formed as a European Colony, no amount of deflection will change that.

 

Why RiaRaeb you said some things in post 986 I would like to respond to:

You stated: "No I posted a well known documentary called Defamation and provide a link."

Its not a documentary, its in fact a mocumentary, It was designed to use the appearance of being a documentary to mock Jews according to its creators. It was designed by anti-smites with an agenda
to insult Jews to mock them. That was their stated purpose, but please continue try pass it off as a credible documentary to back your views.


You stated:

"No the debate on the thread topic stopped long ago, since page 30 most of the debate has consisted of posters defending themselves against accusations of antisemitism. "

Mr. Raeb you now try to suggest because people (and of course you mean you, in earlier posts you kept referring only to yourself until I suggested you were being self-centered) are challenged on what they (lol-you) wrote on this forum as being hateful to Jews its not debate. Really? Could it be it is debate and the debate continues and you are now a tad frustrated about not being able to stop me from responding to you with continuing challenges and to now choose to re-define what debate is to say if I continue to disagree with you or others and explain why, its not debate any more?

You stated: "The agenda was quite clear, move the debate to attempting to discredit posters "

How Ironic. What is clear from the above words is you try assign a motive to me for disagreeing with you so you can discredit me. Lol. You now use the reference "posters" but in past posts you clearly stated my agenda was to discredit you. Switching the reference to "posters" now to try make it appear its not about you is noted. Who you kidding Mr. Raeb. No Mr. Raeb this is not about you. This is about debating and challenging words you or others state that I believe are insulting to Jews and unfairly attack Jews. The fact you keep presenting my right to as wanting to shut down debate is just you assigning me a motive to discredit me, the very thing you accuse me of doing to you. Who you kidding Mr. Raeb, Your frustrated you can't shut this Jew up.

Yes I know you think I am a bad Jew for picking on you for no reason and am involved in a Zionist offfensive to shut down the forum in a conspiracy to victimize you, someone who loves Jews ( I mean come on you have a Jewish mistress and step sons) and only hates Jews when we are Zionist. Got it.

Then you stated: "This is just rubbish I never hide from confronting you I enjoy it, dream on!"

Oh I don't think so Mr. Raeb, because for someone who enjoys confrontations you have sent back quite a few responses to me complaining I victimize you unfairly complete with CAPITALIZED words and exclamation marks. Oh Come now Mr. Raeb buck up. this Jew hasn't even started to debate.

Mr. Raeb you stated:

"No you claim to know what I think."

Well now this coming from someone who claims I am involved in a conspiracy to shut down forum debate and discredit you. Right. You know what I think though right? Lol Mr. Raeb this is not about what you think or you. Hard as it is for you to believe this thread is not about you and what you think I only challenge the words you place on this forum I think are hateful to Jews/. I offer my feedback on them as you do mine. Its called debating. I challenge your stated words when I think they are hateful . Mr. Raeb you again try make this forum thread about you. Its not. I don't care what you think but state hateful words about Jews on this forum, yes I will challenge them and explain why.

You stated:

"It is hardly surprising I might think you tried to psycoanalyze me since you did it with another poster."

There we go again Mr. Raeb trying to make this thread about you. Its not and no I don't psychoanalyze you I simply respond to what tactics I see you engaging in when debating I believe enable you to express hatred for Jews.


You stated:

"Did I dare to tell you what I think, rather than allowing you to tell forum what I think?"

I don't tell the forum how to think or tell the forum what you think. I express my opinions as to what I think your words indicate, just like you do the same about Jews and Zionist Jews.

You stated: "Right so at least you have accepted I am not antisemetic, I just disagree with Zionists."

I think you are an anti semite for many reasons previously stated and in particular for believing you can attack Jews for being bad, i.e., Zionists or because you have ana lleged Jewish mistress and step son. I think you've resorted to the lowest of debate techniques to try justifying expressing words to hate Jews. Using a Jewish mistress and step son to try gain nstant credibility to suggest you don't hate Jews to me was as low as it gets in terms of debate techniques on any forum. For me trying to pass of attacks on Jews as acceptable because they are Zionist which is what you claim to be doing does not make them reasonable or less hateful. The negative stereotypes and generalizations you use to describe Jews when couching it as anti Zionism to me as I explained is what makes them anti semitic and no your couching them as anti Zionist doesn't magically erase the pith and substance of their bigotry towards Jews who choose to define themselves in a way you don't want them to. Your decision to demonize Jews for being Zionist is loud and clear in the words you have used to date.

You stated: "You wrote the only good jew is a dead Jew or something similar, and I disagreed."

I never stated the above and inserting the words "or something similiar" does not leave you a way out. No Mr. Raeb at no time did I make the anti-Semitic statement you now try
assign to mean I believe the above comment by you suggesting I believe the only Good Jew is a dead Jew is a deliberate anti semitic taunt.

You stated:

"No it is me making the thread about me again! Having the audacity to say what I think rather than you saying what I think!"
(that's a bit of irony by the way)

Your response above seems a bit garbled and nonsensical. Yes I have responded a few times now saying you keep trying to redirect the thread back to you and
you are not the issue and I believe this continuous reference back to you is a tad narcissistic. In regards to the other words above you sound exasperated I disagree with
what you say. Well let me say to that, if you come on the forum and state I think the only good Jew is a dead Jew, then yes I will tell you I consider that a rude, nasty
anti-Semitic taunt, of course. For you to even suggest I said that is pretty low and if you can't understand why I would perceive the comment that way, I find it hard
to believe you can not understand that accusing me, a Jew, of thinking the only good Jew is a dead Jew is not just low, but speaks loudly about you as a person.

You stated:

"Here is what you said,


Today, the only good Jew is a powerless Jew willing to become a dead one."


Again you make a false statement. I never said the above. I quoted some and what you have now done is to take that writer's quotes and claim I said them which is false. Next, you then pull them out of their context to give them a new meaning and by the way you have just proven in your own words, your earlier accusation that I feel the only good Jew is a dead Jew is false and fabricated by you. If people go back and read the original quote, they can clearly see I did not state it and when the writer stated it, he was describing what he feels anti-semites are saying about Jews in the name of criticizing Zionism.

You stated:

"Let me rephrase the question, Why do you write, the only good Jew is a powerless Jew willing to become a dead one.?
Happy now?"

No I am not because neither the writer stated the above, nor did I state the above and for you take that quote and try twist it to suggest either that writer or I think
the only good Jews is a dead Jew, is for me something I am having a problem believing anyone who protests as loudly as you do about being intelligent and reasonable
would mistake.

You stated:

"You brought the subject up I argued against it, do not think I will let revisionist history go unchallenged."

Your above statement suggests because I disagree with your subjective revision of the War of Independence of Israel and its causes and origins, I revised
the historic time lines and events not you. That is illogical and again a maneuver to suggest when you re-write historic events to suit your subjective political
beliefs, if someone challenges you on that, in this case me, I am the revisionist. People can independently research the causes and origins of the War of Independence
in 1948 and no I am not about to condone your version which I believe is false.

You stated:

"So yet again when asked to provide evidence for your subjective claims you say no.!"

In this case yes because the thread is not about what led to the Israeli War of Indepence in 1948 and I believe you were trying to
derail the thread topic.

You then stated:

Yet again you show your lack of English comprehension, "I think the world" is not presuming to speak for the world, it just isn't."

Of course it is. You prefaced what you think the world thinks and this coming from someone who repeatedly complains and accuses me of telling you what you
think. Lol.


You stated"

"That you think it is is so funny. How about you take some english lessons and stop being a spokesperson for idiocy."

Yes I do laugh when I see you contradict yourself and then when exposed doing so, insult-by the way the above tactic, shows exactly what Drew
Bedson tried to explain to you is what you were doing with him in your responses to him as well. You see when people disagree with you, you insult them,
then in the next breath claim to be a victim of their insults. Yes I find that laughable. I also find the above comment contradicts your earlier statement
you said you enjoy confronting me. Clearly you don' especially if I use the word, LOL.

You stated:

"Evidence of Irans agenda (even if it existed) is not evidence it will get them, lack of comprehension again."

Well now for someone who repeatedly insults me for not understanding English, perhaps you can explain the above. Again, lol.

You stated:

"Just go back over previous threads, you call just about everyone and everything that does not agree with you antisemetic."

No actually what those threads show is I only challenge specific words not everyone and everything. You got a bit carried away and again are you really referring to everyone and everything or do you mean your own words I quoted and challenged? I mean I think its the latter, but hey, I could be wrong.

You stated:

"Try a self awareness course."

Really? I know what a Jew is Mr. Raeb. Do you? Lol. Come now Mr. Raeb, do you think you should make such insults? Do you think you are a model of insightful awareness? Oh know doubt you have a sense of self, you keep dwelling and referring to it, but Mr. Raeb insight as to how our words hurt others, well that's a bit different then having a large sense fo self. One deals with empathy, the other ego. Now in my case, I think I am quite aware that any comment I make you disagree with will perplex you. I also think I know what being a Jew means to me and you don't have to tell me.

You stated:

:No, I am an atheist, .."

There you go again trying to make the thread about you. Your being an atheist is not even remotely relevant to the thread or what I said in response to your words.

Now you made a quote speaking on behalf of your Jewish Mistress and stated:

"Thanks she read it for herself, she thinks you are exactly what is destroying Israel, and the reason she does not want her boys anywhere near the place."

There we go again using the construct of a Jewish Mistress to enunciate a personal attack against me. But hey its a Jewish Mistress who said it right, so that must make it acceptable.
So let me get this straight, I am destroying Israel and she doesn't want her boys (presumably like her good Jews) for going to Israel because what because of just me and my
overwhelming evil that has overcome Israel or do you think its because of other bad Jews there was well. I am confused now-because up until now you suggested Israel was full of bad Zionist Jews and was evil, which would suggest it already was evil without anything I did. However if you want to blame me for making Israel bad, knock yourself out, and yes I will say loudly, LOL. Your comment in its attempt to insult me posing your words through a constructed Jewish Mistress yet again are hilarious.

Lol, then you stated:

"Wrong on all counts, now show where I have called you a bad Jew?"

Oh I dunno, could it be for example when you accused me of fouling up Israel so badly your Jewish Mistresses boys can't go there? Lol.

Yes, it was a silly idea of mine, that we might debate the topic, you are here to stifle debate and character assassination!

You stated:

"Yes we are aware that Israel and its most ardent adherents do not want compromise or reconciliation just total domination. You are a proud cheerleader for the Zionist cause."

Yep accusing me of making Israel bad bad bad, trying to bait me into discussing issues that have nothing to do with the thread, calling me a proud cheerleader for the Zionist cause, yep it sure debates Israeli state policies. Lol. Now you think I am a proud cheerleader? Yes I think so. I have no pom poms though also I don't do the splits any more. Prostate cancer doesn't allow that. Makes me careful too when I laugh.

You stated:

"Never claimed I was a victim, just keep highlighting what you do."

Right the comments continually whining about you unfairly being accused of hating Jews by me isn't playing the role of victim. Thanks for the clarification.

You stated:

"We all know there is only one victim in the world!"

Yah I know. The above is another one of your anti semitic digs suggesting if we Jews explain we created a state to escape oppression, we should be ridiculed. Yep
you've stated that many times.

You stated:

"You stated: "Yes the days of colonization being acceptable are over, about time you realized it." "

No Ria I did not state the above, you did. Its your quote and I responded to it disagreeing. Funny for a guy who constantly accuses me of false quotes, you see what you've done again? Lol.

Now you stated:

"Israel was formed as a European Colony, no amount of deflection will change that."

No of course not. It was created to provide Jews a refuge from European states and Muslim states and no amount of
revisionism by you will change that. In fact in the War of Independence, Britain flew Egyptian Air Force airplanes that attacked
the Jews in Israel and led the Jordanian army. In fact as you are well aware, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Iran,
Kuwait, the UAE. Morrocco, Algeria, Libya, Tunisia, Sudan, were all European colonies. In fact the Arab League that attacked
Europe were all French or British colonies at the time except Egypt which was run by a corrupt King under the control of
the British. In fact France and Britain tried over and over to prevent Israel from forming. In fact thousands of Nazis moved to
Egypt, Syria and Iraq after WW2, running their militaries, Mukbarat police modeled after the Gestapo, Ministries of
Communication and campaigns against Israel. Lol, but hey, why let history get in the way.

 

Unsurprisingly once again it seems you have missed the point and knee jerked a response.

No worries tough guy.

 

Not good with irony are you?

 

Nothing here to respond to, you just keep on repeating the same old slurs, accusations and falsifications, you still do not use the quote system allowing you to cover your falsifications. You still cannot understand english very well. You provide no evidence to back up your claims. Let me know if you have something else to say, otherwise my reply to you stays the same as it has for the last few posts. The posts you have made speak for themselves, as do my posts too difficult to for you to reply to. You will not except my challenge, frankly you are boring me.

Lets hope you come up with something new other than antisemite, antisemite antisemite antisemite...........................................................

 

Maybe one day you will reply to this,


What you have demonstrated is intolerance, ignorance and bigotry. This is why you have zero credibility How absurd and pathetic Ria your passive aggressive attempts to bait are pathetic. Now run along and bait someone else. Trust me you keep your head in that space the answer will sooner or later dawn on you when you try sit down. Ria your bigotry and attempts to justify it speak for itself If instead of posing as a Jew or a Rabbia foolish and petulant. You in fact ridicule them. You ridicule me. All you can do is ridicule. that demonstrated is you think you can ridicule me.You ridicule me
ridicule my.to ridicule my supposed.Your decision to ridicule.is anti semitic. ridiculing Jewish religious beliefs.to ridicule me then you will be called out as an anti-semite.you are a bully who needs to be challenged.This is President Obama who is so stupid.Obama is a miserable CIA failed scheme.
Obama is a CIA invention-a barely concealed Muslim stooge-a prop-an invented President.Obama is a pathetic, transparent, Muslim puppet stooge.
It blew up in his smarmy face. continues to exhibit your lack of credibility.You just uttered an anti semitic statement and then top it off with yet another bully taunt.I believe Obama is a Muslim Brotherhood stooge and puppet.That doesn't make you less anti semitic-it just makes you more of a bigot.So lets clarify, you hate Christians too. insincere and hateful you are.I have stated that to you in the past. Your hating Christians as well does not change your being an anti semite, in fact it just proves the point you are a bigot. Being bigoted against Christians does not magically absolve you of being unbigoted towards Jews it just makes you a multiple target bigot.Pathetic Ria. boxed yourself into a corner you couldn't crawl out of.you insult and hate not just Jews but Christians.I called out Ria Raeb for making bigoted statements. anti semitic diatribe. Let me make this clear to Ria and Creation and Ronstar. The fact that Obama is a Muslim or gay is no big deal to me.Here I am not aluding I am saying, the above shows you insult and hate not just Jews but Christians.I called out Ria Raeb for making bigoted statements. The whole lot of you engaging in holocaust denial have hijacked the thread. I say hear loudly, the anti semites on this board who use the holocaust denial tactic to attack Jews or the soldiers who fought against them-the best they can do is hidebehind anonomous names on web sites to launh and incite their anti Semitism. Alexa's response typifies the new holocaust denial game. You are an anti-Semite. Alexa is an anti-Semite. Creation is an anti-Semite. You all have demonstrated you use denying he holocaust or questioning how it happened as a method to question the existence of Israel. That is blatant anti-Semitism. To come on this forum and admit the agenda is to use holocaust denial to question Israel's state of existence as you have speaks for itself.This thread shows you are anti semitic as are the others. I am disgusted this thread has been allowed to pass as debate. Its not debate. Its taunting, baiting and name calling by a bunch of anti semites who jump all over each other using holocaust denial as a baiting tool.bull crap number game Alexa. No Ria Raeb you won't hijack this thread with Creation and Alexa and engage in anti-Semitism and think I will remain silent. Here I am.Now let's deal directly with your anti Semitism.pretend you are not an anti semite.Deal with the fact I am calling your words out as hateful, anti-Semitic, bigoted and ignorant.The lot of you yse cowardly words to attack holocaust victims. Lets spell it out Ria. Let's spell out your agenda and the agenda of Alexis, Creation, Shiva as evidenced in your words on this thread:"The calls for the dismantling of Israel and shouts to kill Jews on the streets of London, Paris, Berlin, and Frankfurt, to name some of the major European cities where they’ve occurred, are indicative of a lethal anti-Semitic mass movement. What unifies many Euro.pean elites, large numbers of Muslims, motley crews of leftists and neo-Nazis is a loathing of the Jewishness of Israel. Go on Alexa, Grau, Creation, Rua deny you are part of the above agenda with your holocaust denial.Anti-Zionism as you use it is inherently anti-Semitic.Its because its Jewish you hate it.You believe the Jewish people should be dispossessed, against their will, of a fundamental right that they currently enjoy: namely, the right of self-determination. Your views are blatantly anti Semitic.Do I look like your step and fetch it boy Riab. Oh I get the tactic you bunch of bigots.Go on spit it out Ria, tell them what you want-Jews as dhimmi-the good old days when Jews knew their place as inferiors.But here is the most cold hard fact of your bigotry, your hatred.In your anti-Semitic world,Your bigotry, your hatred, your abject ignorance and insensitivity. You use the holocaust and its memory as a pretext to engage in a smeer of anyone who supports Israel's right to existence.You trivialize the holocaust.You call the holocaust logical.You call the mass extermination of Jews as making sense.You are no victim. You and Grau and Creation have come on this forum to use the holocaust as a political exercise to spit on Israel I am the one who called you and the others anti semites. self appointed Jew Judge. Do you like playing the role of Josef Mengele. hate Jews of all kinds. back to anti semitic, hateful name calling. Yes I see its just like a super Jew hating vitamin anti semites can take to boost their hate Jew blood cells I guess.anti-semitism, the hatred for Jews it oozes all over the thread like pus from a wound.

Every single, word above is from is from Yetzerhara, Every single word is from this thread. Every insult, every accusation, every subjective opinion. Not a single fact there. I am not antisemetic, it is Yetzerhara's subjective opinion. No where on this thread do I or any of my fellow posters claim they hate Jews. Not once. Look at the words used, look at the slurs. And Yetzerhara has not one single fact to back any of it up, not one single fact, not one.

NOW YOU HAVE ONE GOAL TO DISCREDIT MYSELF AND OTHER POSTERS WITH THE CHARGE OF ANTISEMITISM

I do not report these slurs, fabrications and insults because I want people to see just what is being attempted here. They can follow the thread, see the fabrications, see the mis-interpretations, see the insults, see how you do not use the quote system. This thread since page 30 has been wrecked by Israeli supporters doing nothing more than attempting to use,

accusations of antisemitism and Holocaust denial to stifle debate and take away the focus on the real victims, the oppressed, occupied and murdered Palestinians

But this is my favourite quote from Yetzerhera,

I think your name calling shows you can't address the issues so attack me personally. Go on call me all the names you want it is to be expected.w your record of insults to me and other posters.

 

Negative. I didn't provide a source that has a negative credibility.
And when a poster wants to proof a point, than it's up to him to find a credible source.
It's the world upside down if some poster claims something, and demands others need to find the source for it.
Doesn't work like that.

 

Let's summarize shall we;

1-even though I provided your quotes and responded to them one by one, you claim the quotes are false because I have broken them down for discussion;
2-you have again stated I provided false quotes when in fact anyone can see the words I quote came directly from your previous posts which I referred to;
3-because you don't like my responses, you restate them as not existing;
4-you throw out some insults to bait, i.e., suggesting you are smarter than I, too intelligent for me, won't except your challenge, bore you;
5-you provide no evidence for your subjective opinions that you pose as absolute facts but accuse me of not providing evidence to back up
my responses to your subjective opinions again demonstrating you evidence one kind of behavior on this forum, then in then next breath tell
me not to engage in that behavior;
6-once again you make this thread about you and how you feel;
7-throw some and your need to try attack me and insult me personally because I word for word challenge what you say and disagree with it.

Thanks for again evidencing my point, that you are not on this thread to discuss any state of Israel policies, but instead argue Jews have no right to be Zionist and
have a collective state identity and when you are challenged on that subjective opinion, engage in the above tactics.

My purpose is to point out and demonstrate and I will continue to do so how this thread is not being used to discuss Israeli state policies but under that pretext is used to insult Jews as you do.





Got it. Now what next?

 

Nothing here to respond to, you just keep on repeating the same old slurs, accusations and falsifications, you still do not use the quote system allowing you to cover your falsifications. You still cannot understand english very well. You provide no evidence to back up your claims. Let me know if you have something else to say, otherwise my reply to you stays the same as it has for the last few posts. The posts you have made speak for themselves, as do my posts too difficult to for you to reply to. You will not except my challenge, frankly you are boring me.

Lets hope you come up with something new other than antisemite, antisemite antisemite antisemite.................... .............................. .........

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What you have demonstrated is intolerance, ignorance and bigotry. This is why you have zero credibility How absurd and pathetic Ria your passive aggressive attempts to bait are pathetic. Now run along and bait someone else. Trust me you keep your head in that space the answer will sooner or later dawn on you when you try sit down. Ria your bigotry and attempts to justify it speak for itself If instead of posing as a Jew or a Rabbia foolish and petulant. You in fact ridicule them. You ridicule me. All you can do is ridicule. that demonstrated is you think you can ridicule me.You ridicule me
ridicule my.to ridicule my supposed.Your decision to ridicule.is anti semitic. ridiculing Jewish religious beliefs.to ridicule me then you will be called out as an anti-semite.you are a bully who needs to be challenged.This is President Obama who is so stupid.Obama is a miserable CIA failed scheme.
Obama is a CIA invention-a barely concealed Muslim stooge-a prop-an invented President.Obama is a pathetic, transparent, Muslim puppet stooge.
It blew up in his smarmy face. continues to exhibit your lack of credibility.You just uttered an anti semitic statement and then top it off with yet another bully taunt.I believe Obama is a Muslim Brotherhood stooge and puppet.That doesn't make you less anti semitic-it just makes you more of a bigot.So lets clarify, you hate Christians too. insincere and hateful you are.I have stated that to you in the past. Your hating Christians as well does not change your being an anti semite, in fact it just proves the point you are a bigot. Being bigoted against Christians does not magically absolve you of being unbigoted towards Jews it just makes you a multiple target bigot.Pathetic Ria. boxed yourself into a corner you couldn't crawl out of.you insult and hate not just Jews but Christians.I called out Ria Raeb for making bigoted statements. anti semitic diatribe. Let me make this clear to Ria and Creation and Ronstar. The fact that Obama is a Muslim or gay is no big deal to me.Here I am not aluding I am saying, the above shows you insult and hate not just Jews but Christians.I called out Ria Raeb for making bigoted statements. The whole lot of you engaging in holocaust denial have hijacked the thread. I say hear loudly, the anti semites on this board who use the holocaust denial tactic to attack Jews or the soldiers who fought against them-the best they can do is hidebehind anonomous names on web sites to launh and incite their anti Semitism. Alexa's response typifies the new holocaust denial game. You are an anti-Semite. Alexa is an anti-Semite. Creation is an anti-Semite. You all have demonstrated you use denying he holocaust or questioning how it happened as a method to question the existence of Israel. That is blatant anti-Semitism. To come on this forum and admit the agenda is to use holocaust denial to question Israel's state of existence as you have speaks for itself.This thread shows you are anti semitic as are the others. I am disgusted this thread has been allowed to pass as debate. Its not debate. Its taunting, baiting and name calling by a bunch of anti semites who jump all over each other using holocaust denial as a baiting tool.bull crap number game Alexa. No Ria Raeb you won't hijack this thread with Creation and Alexa and engage in anti-Semitism and think I will remain silent. Here I am.Now let's deal directly with your anti Semitism.pretend you are not an anti semite.Deal with the fact I am calling your words out as hateful, anti-Semitic, bigoted and ignorant.The lot of you yse cowardly words to attack holocaust victims. Lets spell it out Ria. Let's spell out your agenda and the agenda of Alexis, Creation, Shiva as evidenced in your words on this thread:"The calls for the dismantling of Israel and shouts to kill Jews on the streets of London, Paris, Berlin, and Frankfurt, to name some of the major European cities where they’ve occurred, are indicative of a lethal anti-Semitic mass movement. What unifies many Euro.pean elites, large numbers of Muslims, motley crews of leftists and neo-Nazis is a loathing of the Jewishness of Israel. Go on Alexa, Grau, Creation, Rua deny you are part of the above agenda with your holocaust denial.Anti-Zionism as you use it is inherently anti-Semitic.Its because its Jewish you hate it.You believe the Jewish people should be dispossessed, against their will, of a fundamental right that they currently enjoy: namely, the right of self-determination. Your views are blatantly anti Semitic.Do I look like your step and fetch it boy Riab. Oh I get the tactic you bunch of bigots.Go on spit it out Ria, tell them what you want-Jews as dhimmi-the good old days when Jews knew their place as inferiors.But here is the most cold hard fact of your bigotry, your hatred.In your anti-Semitic world,Your bigotry, your hatred, your abject ignorance and insensitivity. You use the holocaust and its memory as a pretext to engage in a smeer of anyone who supports Israel's right to existence.You trivialize the holocaust.You call the holocaust logical.You call the mass extermination of Jews as making sense.You are no victim. You and Grau and Creation have come on this forum to use the holocaust as a political exercise to spit on Israel I am the one who called you and the others anti semites. self appointed Jew Judge. Do you like playing the role of Josef Mengele. hate Jews of all kinds. back to anti semitic, hateful name calling. Yes I see its just like a super Jew hating vitamin anti semites can take to boost their hate Jew blood cells I guess.anti-semitism, the hatred for Jews it oozes all over the thread like pus from a wound.

Every single, word above is from is from Yetzerhara, Every single word is from this thread. Every insult, every accusation, every subjective opinion. Not a single fact there. I am not antisemetic, it is Yetzerhara's subjective opinion. No where on this thread do I or any of my fellow posters claim they hate Jews. Not once. Look at the words used, look at the slurs. And Yetzerhara has not one single fact to back any of it up, not one single fact, not one.

NOW YOU HAVE ONE GOAL TO DISCREDIT MYSELF AND OTHER POSTERS WITH THE CHARGE OF ANTISEMITISM

I do not report these slurs, fabrications and insults because I want people to see just what is being attempted here. They can follow the thread, see the fabrications, see the mis-interpretations, see the insults, see how you do not use the quote system. This thread since page 30 has been wrecked by Israeli supporters doing nothing more than attempting to use,

accusations of antisemitism and Holocaust denial to stifle debate and take away the focus on the real victims, the oppressed, occupied and murdered Palestinians

But this is my favourite quote from Yetzerhera,

I think your name calling shows you can't address the issues so attack me personally. Go on call me all the names you want it is to be expected.w your record of insults to me and other posters.

And in future re[port posts on other threads which you try to ruin.

 

Lol I will be glad to. First of all for someone who continually tells me I do not know how to use the quoting system you provide a quote without quotation marks or the post and thread it refers to. You then remove a response I made to the comments of you and others. To properly understand my response, you would need to show its context, i.e., the subjective opinions stated by anti-semites, that I responded to.

What you have done is quote my response to anti semitic subjective opinions. You do so to suggest because I disagree with those statements you made which you of course did not produce, it makes you a victim of a campaign to discredit you.

You once again try make this thread about you and your feelings and not about the comments you made. You repeat this narcissistic exercise showing once again you can't separate yourself from your arguments and the notion you will be challenged by a Jew when you say hateful things about a Jew sticks in your gut.

Lol I am glad you obsess over it. Now I will be glad to take certain comments I made from the above post and state they equally apply to your responses to me and others on this thread and other threads when you offer such comments under the pretext you are challenging Israeli government policies.

-you have demonstrated is intolerance, ignorance and bigotry towards Jews
-you are a bully
-Your hating Christians as well does not change your being an anti semite, in fact it just proves the point you are a bigot. Being bigoted against Christians does not magically absolve you of being unbigoted towards Jews it just makes you a multiple target bigot
-I have called out Ria Raeb for making bigoted statements. anti semitic diatribe
-the whole lot of you engaging in holocaust denial have hijacked the thread
-Alexa is an anti-Semite. Creation is an anti-Semite. You all have demonstrated you use denying he holocaust or questioning how it happened as a method to question the existence of Israel. That is blatant anti-Semitism
-I am disgusted this thread has been allowed to pass as debate. Its not debate. Its taunting, baiting and name calling by a bunch of anti semites who jump all over each other using holocaust denial as a baiting tool.
-To come on this forum and admit the agenda is to use holocaust denial to question Israel's state of existence as you have speaks for itself.
-Go on Alexa, Grau, Creation, Ria deny you are part of the above agenda with your holocaust denial.
-You believe the Jewish people should be dispossessed, against their will, of a fundamental right that they currently enjoy: namely, the right of self-determination.
-You use the holocaust and its memory as a pretext to engage in a smeer of anyone who supports Israel's right to existence.You trivialize the holocaust.You call the holocaust logical.You call the mass extermination of Jews as making sense.You are no victim. You and Grau and Creation have come on this forum to use the holocaust as a political exercise to spit on Israel I am the one who called you and the others anti semites. self appointed Jew Judge. Do you like playing the role of Josef Mengele. hate Jews of all kinds. back to anti semitic, hateful name calling. Yes I see its just like a super Jew hating vitamin anti semites can take to boost their hate Jew blood cells I guess.anti-semitism, the hatred for Jews it oozes all over the thread like pus from a wound.

I take full ownership of those words in response to comments from the people I refer to and you and I was glad to repeat them.

I also take full ownership of the following mistake which I apologize for. I provided this quote:

"The calls for the dismantling of Israel and shouts to kill Jews on the streets of London, Paris, Berlin, and Frankfurt, to name some of the major European cities where they’ve occurred, are indicative of a lethal anti-Semitic mass movement. What unifies many European elites, large numbers of Muslims, motley crews of leftists and neo-Nazis is a loathing of the Jewishness of Israel. "

I should have clearly indicated the person who stated it. However its clear I did not say you or the others said it but I can see that it could pass as that. It was done in the heat of the moment in response on a day I reacted to the the holocaust denial/trivialization discourse. Its wrong. It should have been clearly quoted as to not look like something you or the others would day, but I wish to assure you Mr. Raeb no one after reading their posts are yours would think you said it. Lol. In fact I doubt anyone read it except you and them.

I do note the holocaust discussion ended after that.

You now state:

"Every single, word above is from is from Yetzerhara, Every single word is from this thread. Every insult, every accusation, every subjective opinion. Not a single fact there. I am not antisemetic, it is Yetzerhara's subjective opinion."

Of course. It was responding to the subjective slurs of you and the others I singled out. You utter a subjective opinon, I respond with one. No not a single fact because you and the others did not provide any fact that had anything to do with Israeli state policies which is the subject of the thread and no I do not have to and will not prove the holocaust existed and no I do not have to provide facts to dispute subjective slurs impugning Jews by accusing them of misappropriating the holocaust to create Israel.

This attack on holocaust survivors and the dead of the holocaust pretexted as discussing Israeli state policies was despicable.

You state:

" I do not report these slurs, fabrications and insults because I want people to see just what is being attempted here. "

Now you pose as benevolent, telling the forum you could censor me but don't.

To that I respond:

1-your posing as a benevolent all mighty censor who tolerates my subjective opinions simply evidences your
need once again to make this post about you, your perceived importance, powers, feelings;
2-as per 1, you again demonstrate your narcissism and constant need to show how important and strong you are;
3-your analysis ignores the fact that you engage in as many if not utterances of subjective opinions;
4-your analysis suggests that you can make subjective opinion statements about Jews, but if I respond, you feel they must be objective;
5-further to 4, you provide no standard of objectivity;
6-further to 5, you don't because in fact you use the pretense of telling me I am not responding objectively as a cover to in fact
justify trying to maintain a position where if I say anything that challenges you it must be unreasonable;
7-pursuant to 6, you find it unreasonable for the same reason you engaged in the posing you did in 1, to show you should
be unchallenged.

I believe the combination of 1-7 shows once again that:

a-you can't control my disagreements over your words and wish you could;
b-feel every comment on this thread must be restated in terms of how you feel it impacts on your feelings;
c-that you continue to play the role of victim.

I again repeat, I respond to your personal attacks yes. If you initiate them on a subjective level, I respond to them on a subjective level since they have
no objective basis. If you do ever provide an objective basis for a position you have on Jews, I will respond accordingly in a thread about why you don't
like Jews, hate Jews, hate Zionist Jews or don't think Israel has a right to be Jewish which is not what this thread's topic was.

Your continued suggestion I am stifling debate is laughable. You continue to write away free to rave and rant about the bad Jews (Zionists) you don't like and
how your Jewish Mistress (good Jew) thinks I am a bad Jew. Knock yourself out with such literary devices to express yourself. Me I don't use others, I don't
speak my words through others. I am right here.

Finally, when you say words like, " Let me know if you have something else to say, otherwise my reply to you stays the same as it has for the last few posts. The posts you have made speak for themselves, as do my posts too difficult to for you to reply to. You will not except my challenge, frankly you are boring.", you demonstrate you are not being victimized by me as you claim or stifled. You evidence in those words, you feel quite free to continue saying what you want and insult me and Jews.

This response is the last one I am going to make to you discussing you and your feelings. I have responded to date to clarify why I have challenged you. Your feelings of being victimized by me are not the topic of this thread nor is your hatred for Zionists and Jews who don't conform to your idea of what a good Jew should be.

If someone actually has a comment about an Israeli government or state policy I will be glad to respond to that policy. So far not one person who came on this board to criticize Israel for a government policy or action has done so. They have instead chosen to question why Jews are Zionists and why Israel exists as a Jewish state.

 

Here you seem a little bit confused let me help. If you come on this board and state a subjective opinion with no basis of independent evidence other than your own feelings to back up your subjective opinion, your response necessarily because it has no independent evidence to comment on will not be responded to with alternative opposing evidence.

On the other hand if you come on this board and provide a basis for your subjective opinion with a reference, the responder will do the same.

So far you have not come on this board in this thread and provided any objective evidence of anything. What you have done is state unreferenced personal subjective opinions and so the responses reflect your unreferenced subjective opinions.

I think you have difficulty understanding your subjective opinions are not objective facts-they are not one and the same.

No poster has an obligation to prove you wrong when you make no effort to provide a basis for your position.

It really is that simple-any notion you have you can say whatever you want and its up to people to disprove it is silly.

You have no entitlement on this board to be considered infallible and absolute in what you say and so not in need of proving what you say.

Hope that helps.

Now do you have anything to say about an Israeli government policy? Do you know what that policy is? Can you identify it, and explain why you
challenge it as problematic?

 

I did. My doctor autioned me anyone who tells me they know "the truth" is a pharmaceutical salesperson or could be delusional. I pointed out they could be a narcissist, politician, comedian, sex escort. Maybe I should add you to the list?

Now can we focus on the thread topic. Do you actually have an Israeli government policy that you can quote and state why you object to it?

 

apparently a translation of words is to be immediately dismissed REGARDLESS of its content because the source of the translation despite NO evidence that the translation is not accurate.

Yes, lets focus on the translator and not the content of the translation itself. Nothing like blind adherence to a blatantly obvious fallacious argument.

Fallacy does not a point make.



If Memri said "two plus two is four", you'd dismiss this claim because memri made it.

 

There you go again completely unable to understand the english language, when someone writes they know the truth about who they live with and what they believe I really do not think your doctor would suggest they are being delusional. What you show is your complete inability to think outside of your views and what you want to be true.

You know who my family are, not me, Maybe you are the new Messiah with such amazing powers!

Now rush off and look for more clear evidence of those antisemites, they are everywhere you know!

 

Oh you found another one already, same lectures on how we must think, how we must present our evidence, but not you. You clearly are above such things as providing evidence.