How the US Armed-up Syrian Jihadists

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  1. Ethereal

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    Former British diplomat, Alastair Crooke, examines a blockbuster report from the American Special Forces community that describes how the CIA is helping AQ in Syria.

    This is what lots of academics and journalists have been saying for a long time now, but it's nice to have it confirmed by our Special Forces people who are actually on the ground observing this firsthand.

    No doubt, Clinton will send even more money and arms to AQ in Syria if she gets the chance. She has publicly stated her desire to topple Syria's secular government and to escalate our involvement there.
     
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    Green Berets on the ground in Syria are stating unequivocally that the CIA is helping AQ. Not sure how much more evidence is needed at this point. I thought when Petraeus said we should help the "moderate" AQ terrorists, that would have caused people to wake up, but I underestimated the power of propaganda and conditioning. It seems nothing will jar westerners from their media-induced trance.
     
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    Some of us knew it along. There is plenty of evidence on this forum. However we still have to wait for intellectual heavyweights like Tecoyah, Ronstar and others to acknowledge who is responsible for the rise of Al-Qaeda and ISIS in the Middle East.
     
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    But but but Al Qaeda is being decimated and is on the run.
     
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    It appears that the US administration and their extended hand, the mainstream media outlets, treat American public like absolute morons. They expect you to believe that if someone shortens their beard is not Al-Qaeda/Jihadist/ISIS any more.

    In any case I don't see the Syrian affair ending in a good way. All those Sunni radical fanatics aren't going to disappear overnight. Europe is going to have a real battle with fanatics for many years to come. The seed for the real global conflict has been planted by this incompetent U.S administration.

    Al Qaeda Is Gaining Strength in Syria

    While Washington sits on the sidelines, the siege of Aleppo has cleared a path for the return of America’s greatest enemy.

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/09/01/al-qaeda-is-gaining-strength-in-syria/

    Everyone in that part of the world is playing the USA for fools.
     
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    They the Jihadist can easily incorporate themselves with the original Syrian rebels,
    they even reached Europe with such a cloaked tactic.
     
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    I personally don't think it's worth risking a war with Russia and possibly China over some radical jihadists who don't wish as well anyway. I've got to question the sanity of people who run the U.S foreign policy.

    Russia: U.S. controlling an "international terrorist alliance"
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-us-inviting-terror-attack-de-facto-support-for-terrorism-syria/

    MOSCOW -- Russian officials accused the U.S. on Thursday of siding with “terrorists” in Syria, in a sign of escalating tensions between Moscow and Washington amid the battle for the northern Syrian city of Aleppo.

    U.S. State Department spokesman John Kirby’s warning that the collapse of U.S.-Russian cooperation in Syria could lead to a rise in extremism and potential attacks against Russia drew Moscow’s anger.

    “We can’t assess those statements as anything else but a call, a directive for action,” Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said at a briefing.

    Defense Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said Kirby’s statement amounted to “the most frank confession by the U.S. side so far that the whole ‘opposition’ ostensibly fighting a ‘civil war’ in Syria is a U.S.-controlled international terrorist alliance.”

    “What makes Kirby’s statement particularly shocking is that the scale of direct U.S. influence on terrorists’ activity is global and reaches as far as Russia,” he said....
     
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    I have always said that our involvement in the Syrian civil war was none of our business and a huge mistake.

    And, to compound the mistake, we are about to elect the architect of this madness to the presidency.
     
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    Yep, you've got it in one - the good ol' U S of A. Dunno about anyone else but I'm battening down the hatches for the BIG ONE. I'd build a bunker in my basement if I had a basement! I don't think the residents of the apartment beneath me would take kindly to my coming through their ceiling?? :mrgreen:
     
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    The jihadists have been incorporated with the original Syrian rebels right from the word 'go' 5 (*)(*)(*)(*)ing years ago.
     
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    Referring to Hillary ?
     
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    On a more serious note, New Zealand is a pretty nice country. Lovely countryside. A bit isolated but far away from everything. Mark my words. Europe is finished. The time of so called prosperity and progress is over. And I include our island in Europe even though we voted out.
     
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    Yeah but NZ has earthquakes and who wants to live their life wondering when and where the next one will be?
     
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    The plain fact is that the vast majority of them are morons (think 'Idiocracy'?) - much likes ours in fact; so far as ours are concerned the BBC has done a grand job with the infantalising and vulgarising the population over the past 3 decades.
     
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    Yes. I think the popular vote may be fairly close, but I think she's got a real lead in the Electoral College voting.
     
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    Oh, indeed. It's been known by intelligent, honest people for years. But for the useful idiots, there was at least some measure of plausible deniability. They could always claim the evidence was circumstantial and whatnot. But when the special forces guys on the ground come right out and say the CIA is training and arming AQ, it seems pretty definitive. At least, to me it does. I have no idea how the neocon lunatics think or if they think at all.
     
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    Well, that assumes this is the result of incompetence, when it's far more likely to be an intentional, purposeful outcome designed by the chaos-loving neocons and imperialists at the CIA and MI6.

    Those two intelligence agencies, so-called, are nothing more than criminal organizations operating under the color of law. They do basically whatever they want to whoever they want and anyone who materially impedes them often winds up mysteriously dead or ruined.
     
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    The US government gets a lot of the blame, and rightfully so, but the British government is just as guilty and nefarious.

    The Anglo-American intelligence axis - namely, the CIA and MI6 - are rogue, criminal organizations who manufacture chaos in order to further the interests of globalist oligarchs.

    They are responsible for the violent deaths of millions of innocent people and the intentional brainwashing of millions more.

    But nothing will be done about it because western societies are in a trance and are likely to stay that way for the foreseeable future.
     
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    If you're looking for a place that is relatively insulated from the madness of the imperialists, you might want to consider Switzerland.

    They're a real democracy that has managed to avoid virtually every major war since the early 1800's.

    And they have strict immigration policies, so there won't be any Jihadist migrants showing up in Swiss villages anytime soon.
     
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    German newspaper interviews Nusrah (AQ in Syria) commander who admits the Americans and their allies (Israel, Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia) are helping them.

    Translation is from German to English via Google Translate.
     
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    I don't disagree with a word of that. I don't know about the west 'being in a trance' though: apropos the Syrian war; there are only two options 1) Fight the enemy, or 2) (figuratively speaking) Open the gates and let the barbarians in. There is no in between. That's what the west and the bleeding-heart liberal gobberati don't get!
     
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    The aim of the jihadists is of course to topple the Assad government in order for them to establish a caliphate whereas the Syrian rebels also wishes to topple the Assad government to bring forth reforms, they have the same aim but do have differences in goals. Desperate enough I think the entry of the Jihadist was tolerated before by the rebels an extra pressure against the Assad government thus creating this rather confusing scenario. Now, US supported the Syrian rebels and amidst the confusion Russia did take the advantage of branding the US supporting a group which hereby tolerant with the Jihadists.
    One good point here is that being with Islam will not automatically make a person a jihadist and supporting a man of Islam will not automatically brand the supporter as supporting a jihadist.
     
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    And that makes the original Syrian rebels not Jihadists, right.
     
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    Who could possibly know? Could you??
     
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    Whatever they were, they weren't classical liberals - that's for sure.
     

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