How the US Armed-up Syrian Jihadists

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    And the Nobel Peace Prize has been incorporated into that "cacophony of fallacy".

    “But he has left unanswered the question of how or when those actions will lead to peace, some argued. Looking back on Obama's Nobel speech, that dilemma was already there, said Jon Alterman, a Middle East expert and former State Department official.

    "What's strikes me most is how different our concept of war was seven years ago," he said. "We are engaged in a whole series of infinitely sustainable, low-level actions that have no logical endpoint. When do we stop doing drone attacks in Yemen and Pakistan? What level of terrorism is acceptable? ... We're engaged in battles with a whole range of groups that are never going to surrender, so how do you decide to stop it? How do you decide what winning looks like?" AP, Once lauded as a peacemaker, Obama's tenure fraught with war, By KATHLEEN HENNESSEY, Oct. 6, 2016.

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/fd0f...e-lauded-peacemaker-obamas-tenure-fraught-war

    Endless war is only good for warmongers.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was not Russia and China that were responsible for Nuclear proliferation.. that would be France/US.
     
  3. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    I think we are supposed to believe that Putin is stupid and suicidal.
     
  4. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just don't understand some people. Look, I too understand that Putin was KGB and probably still has those tendencies. However, that's not a reflection of his country. We've had this mindset since WW2 that Russia grew to an enemy. It's 2016. Let's end the pissing contest, strike up a positive business relationship, and destroy Islamic extremism.
     
  5. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Correct. The US as been a great enabler of intercontinental nuclear war capability - for the right price.

    “Bernard L. Schwartz, CEO of Loral Space & Communications, and his wife Irene are veterans of the Mother Jones 400 (ranked third in 1998, first in 1997, and seventh in 1996). They have historically been big supporters of Bill Clinton and his party. This year they gave $1,317,000 -- nearly every penny of it to the Democrats.”

    “At first, Schwartz told worried investors not to fear: Globalstar would find a market for mobile phone service via satellites. "I can't argue with the premise that Iridium didn't find the customers," he told AFX News. "But we will find the customers." But in February, Schwartz announced that it was halting its investments in Globalstar, which had attracted only 32,100 subscribers. The company was founded by Loral and wireless technology developer Qualcomm, Inc., run by Irwin M. Jacobs (No. 100, $333,000).”

    “In 1997 Schwartz celebrated his 71st birthday with the Clintons at the White House. The next year, he became the focus of a controversy when Clinton's critics suggested that the president had rubberstamped Loral's satellite launches in China. Mother Jones reported that the company had apparently ignored security procedures by faxing Beijing a draft report about a rocket crash that destroyed a Loral satellite (see "Heavy Metal"). An extensive federal investigation into the matter has since concluded there was "not a scintilla of evidence -- or information -- that the president was corruptly influenced by Bernard Schwartz," according to an internal document obtained by the Los Angeles Times.” MOJO, The Mother Jones 400 / Bernard L. Schwartz (with Irene) profile, 3/5/01.

    Was Comey the head of the FBI in 1997? ;-)
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A charlatan hypocrite in many ways. Not only has Obama been a warmonger abroad .. this civil rights champion - Harvard Constitutional Lawyer has been waging war on individual rights and freedoms/liberty on the people of the US.

    Quite the personal 180.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Apparently we tried that and Russia agreed to it before deciding not to agree to it. Would you go into business with a guy that ripped you off?
     
  8. Ddyad

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    That would be too smart.
     
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    You still haven't cited your sources for Russia giving people nuclear weapons as you claimed.
     
  10. Ddyad

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    Yes, and the warmongers sure do flock together.

    “"I am currently trending on both Twitter and Facebook. Why? Because Americans want more than warmongers and fools," Stein tweeted. "Despite Hillary's penchant for flip-flopping rhetoric, she's spent decades serving the causes of the Wall Street, war, & Walmart economy." AP, Who's Jill Stein? Googlers are asking, and the answer is: Clinton's new problem, Alexander Panetta, 7/13/16.
    http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/who-s-j...the-answer-is-clinton-s-new-problem-1.2985936

    No wonder the Republican neocons are supporting the Clintons.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My God......you people can't even understand sarcastic humor?

    Jesus they must have a very boring life in Russia.
     
  12. ArmySoldier

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    I'm stationed in Europe, not Russia. We currently don't have SSR's in Russia.

    I did not realize you were being sarcastic. My bad.
     
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    I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall during the Iran/nuke negotiations. Russia, China, England, France (and for some reason Germany who is not a member of the security council) and US sitting at the same table.

    All members have to buy into sanctions for sanctions to work. We hear various pundits crying "we got a bad deal".... like we were the only Country in the room. The fact of the matter is that it was not our deal to make !

    Can you imagine Russia and China speaking plainly "look it was you two France/US that let the genie out of the bottle" - South Africa/Israel/Pakistan/N.Korea/Iraq/Iran" "This was a colossal fck-up" "Time to let the adults in the room handle this one"

    How are US/France supposed to respond ? "ooopps". Then in a side-bar between China and Russia (like it was us that had Pakistani nationals working in our nuclear facilities with access to nuclear secrets"

    The real story of the Iran deal was that it was China and Russia saying ... "This is how this is going to work, these will be the conditions and that is that".
     
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    AboveAlpha knows his stuff. He's an ace at this stuff.

    All the stuff that he claims happened to him is the truth. Deal with it. LOL!
     
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    What does the President send a note to the CIA to take care of something???

    Assad crossed the red line, STOP
    Assad has to go, STOP
    I don't care how you do it, STOP
    make it happen, LOL!
     
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    No, this is astronomically profitable for Hillary Clinton's neocons and super rich elites who would get any child killed in wars and civil wars if they and she can make $1 off it.
     
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    It is the Democratic Party that is now the neocon party of war and death. That is why rich Republican neocons have flocked to Hillary Clinton.
     
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    Yes, and JFK had a problem with them. It is a very powerful agency, with a willing lack of oversight. The left hand knows not what the right hand is doing, at times. The CIA is also linked to the banking cabal cartel. It works in their interests, not in American interests, that is, in the interest of the People, and never has. Read up on its history. It is an arm of the oligarchs, and Bush Sr. was an oligarch to head it at one time.

    If JFK had lived, he may have removed its nutsack. It was already overstepping way back then. It is a dangerous agency, and has no place in a republic as set up by our founders. We need intelligence, yes, but this is much more than an intel organization.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well the US has been ripping off The Russian Federation from the demise of the Soviet Union, and they continued to work with them ...but no more. That has ended!
     
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    I don't understand you people. Do you really believe that anyone who isn't brainwashed by Washington's propaganda machines is a Russian? Or are you saying it to discredit anyone who presents facts, for fear it might wake up others to reality?
     
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    Wellll...that excuses it quite handily.

    Buh bye comrades.....you cannot blame us this time, but you will anyway.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Flipping again! :lol:
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just pointing out the Russian troll soldiers.
     
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    Ahh the liberal mantra...when all else fails.....Blame Bush.
     

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