Do you suspect that natural cures for cancer are suppressed?

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Do you suspect that large companies suppress truth about natural remedies?

  1. No, that is ridiculous and absurd!!!!!!!!!

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  2. Sure....we all have an evil streak in us!

    23 vote(s)
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  3. Yes, but misleading information on supposedly natural remedies is even worse!

    36 vote(s)
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  4. My doctor would never do that!!!!

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is an exceptionally well informed post.......... touche!

    But the fact remains that there are never going to be an clinical trials done on sodium bicarbonate......... because it cannot be patented.....
    ... and is too inexpensive for any large company to even bother looking at.

    Astonishing results.... not only on cancers but on many other diseases were found with manipol / mannose but once it was found out that
    the substance could not be patented........ all further research was abandoned except by one doctor who figured out another way to
    get some sort of patent so that he could make some money off it........

    For all I know.....
    the reason why it may seem to work on at least a segment of cancer patients could be a catalyst effect.......
    much like how MSM benefits many people.....with many different condition...... perhaps because of the detoxification effect....... but perhaps
    the reason why it works may not be direct.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And here is another one that isn't encouraged as much as it should be.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXWqhIPXTjU
    These People Died, Saw Heaven, & Came Back to Life! | Dr. Chauncey Crandall
     
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    Go pick up this book on cancer "Cancer, the Emperor of Maladies". History of cancer treatments and research from an oncologist.
     
  4. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have definitely got to get this.....
    and break out the highliter so that I can find lots of cool quotations......
    to annoy some overly naive but obviously intelligent people with.....
     
  5. AboveAlpha

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    Dennis.....the cure for cancer is going to come in the form of Genetic Engineering.

    What they are doing is using a Retro Virus to infect specific tissue like a tumor and when the Cancer cells in the tumor are infected as they mistake the Virus for food or O2....the Retro Virus once inside the tumor will encode it's modified DNA into the Genomes of the Cancer cells.

    At that point the now newly Viral DNA encoded cancer cell Genomes will reprogram those Cancer cells and they can be made to do a number of things.

    They can be made to die thus causing the tumor to destroy itself without surgery or they can be programmed to self correct themselves or programmed to spread the Genetically Engineered Virus to other cancer cells.

    The applications are limitless.

    AA
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is awesome news but...... this form of treatment can be extremely expensive.......


    Sir..... I so thank you for already giving me the name of an A-list actor who you feel could
    do a reasonable job of enacting the role of you.... AboveAlpha.

    Let's imagine that this actor...... plays the role of a physician... which he did a great job of
    already on Grey's Anatomy............

    Let's imagine that a semi-reality science fiction film series is shot partly in Nova Scotia.....
    partly at Sherbrooke Village, that happens to be within the riding of M. P. Sean Fraser.......

    Let's imagine that we have theoretically unlimited financing....in the form of a micro-nation
    currency note that may perhaps be entitled a "...... Volunteerism Hour"

    Let's imagine that we finance some alternative nutritional therapies that are supposed to have
    at least some effect on cancer............ but while we are at it.... let's also bring back some
    potentially effective natural products that we have found out about over the past three decades......

    artistic license....... can be used to save lives......


    http://www.politicalforum.com/healt...nnot-survive-presence-high-levels-oxygen.html
    Cancer cells.....cannot survive in the presence of high levels of oxygen
    ..
     
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    I just got back a brilliant reply on this topic in another discussion....
    and I think that I should copy and paste the whole reply here:


     
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    Yes cause 8 years ago a fellow Pastor was told go home and die we done all we can with your cancer. A friend introduced them to a Homeopathic Dr who too his files and sent samples and stuff to Loma Lina and in a week they had came up with a plan. They put in on high dose of Carrot juice and baked goods made with the Pulp. He ate and drank some much carrot juice his skin turned a pale tint of orange. He went back to the regular Dr every 90 days and with each visit the cancer was getting smaller after 16 months he was declared by his regular MD to be Cancer free and he still Preaching and teaching today. I believe the 7th day Adventist Healthcare system is one of the best when you have no hope.
     
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    Wow!!!!!

    That is truly wonderful news!!!!
     
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    Anyone who thinks that physicians are conspiring to hide cures of any kind to ailments of any kind can shampoo my crotch.
     
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    Do you have Netflix Durandal?

    You have never watched any of the Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski films have you?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBUGVkmmwbk

    Burzynski: Cancer Is Serious Business | Full Documentary | CANCER CURE
     
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    There is only economic disincentive to explore or develop any natural drug or cure as it cannot be patented for monopolistic pricing. Why would any company spend money to research a natural cure that costs $1 and anyone then could sell, when they can develop something that costs $1 to produce and they can sell it for $50 each holding the patent? That is obvious enough.
     
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    The question is not about what doctors do. It is about the government and drug companies. Many doctors, most notably older doctors and foreign educated doctors, do engage in natural alternative treatments. But they go WAY out of their way to keep the AMA, FDA and government from knowing about it. Also insurance companies will not pay for alternative treatments.

    Cancer is trillion dollar industry. The government will come down like a hammer on any doctor who engages in any treatment the government has not approved. This so extreme that even if it certain by all government views the person is terminally ill such as with horrific brain cancer and will die horribly within weeks, no doctor may even attempt anything else. Essentially and daily the government has effectively ordered doctors to let their patients die on the prescribed death path.
     
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    Yes.... this is exactly the impression that I have gotten as well.

    A high level bureaucrat in the President Obama administration replied to the
    producer of the Burzynski films that ...... the Dr. Burzynski treatment for cancer was great but........
    it could set in motion a 2008 level crash on Wall Street and felt that the USA economy could not
    handle that setback at that time.
     
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    If a cure to cancer and Alzheimers was found? A million people would be unemployed and numerous mega billion dollar companies would fail, nor could hospitals continue to charge $50 for a nickle aspirin with empty rooms and a no-waiting line ER. Thousands of medical offices would have to close.

    Cancer is exorbitantly profitable as are slow degenerative diseases. Those can be milked for years.
     
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    The Barbaric Treatments For Cancer

    http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Barbaric-Treatments-For-Cancer&id=2202590

    The government prescribed treatment for cancer has been compared to medieval torture for profit for decades.

    It is important to understand the government's definition of "cure." It is not "cured." It is "5 year survival." Cancer treatment is largely about assuring you die slowly - and in this horrifically.

    Though it old and I can't find it at the moment, a study compared people who underwent traditional cancer treatment versus those who did nothing. Those who did nothing lived longer - and certainly better.

    Certain cancers CAN be cured - specifically certain types of cancerous tumors IF they can be FULLY removed and NOT punctured while doing so - such as skin and early stage breast cancer. However, if punctured while removal it then spreads the cancer cells all over the person's body.

    A typical course for radiation/chemotherapy/surgery treatment of cancer is it is declared the cancer is "in remission." Not gone, in remission. It returns. Maybe put in remission again. But then it come roaring back unstoppably.

    Chemotherapy is generally about slowing cell reproduction, which then slows cancer cell reproduction. But it also slows all cell reproduction, why the person is so weak and sick. Chemotherapy (a very generalize word) most often means "die slower." Quality of life is irrelevant. The goal? Keep you alive 5 years - and then you were "cured" even if totally incapacitated and would prefer to be dead. People who undergo tradition cancer treatment usually are welcoming death to escape the suffering of the treatment.

    I know probably half a dozen people who have gone thru chemotherapy and absolutely would never do it again.

    Radiation therapy assures you will have cancer one way or the other since radiation causes cancer. Again, though, it is about slowing how fast you die, indifferent to the quality of your life.
     
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    I was aware of that charlatan, actually. FYI: Netflix is not your best source for medical information.
     
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    Dr. Ben Carson showed phenomenal courage to buck the
    massive bureaucracy of the medical Big Pharma lobby.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/health-care/453165-why-would-dr-ben-carson-make-such-claims.html


    Why would Dr. Ben Carson make such claims?

    ... please especially notice post #7.....
     
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    The brain cancer survivors who Dr. Burzynski was permitted to treat......
    could argue that point with you very effectively.
     
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    You should read science websites [real science websites and not blogs or other nonsense] and not watch crackpot videos. The world will make a lot more sense.
     
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    I know probably half a dozen people who have gone thru chemotherapy and absolutely would never do it again.
     
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    Which is one good reason to seriously research low cost relatively natural
    possible solutions such as the family maid told to my wife's dad a few years ago.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/healt...nnot-survive-presence-high-levels-oxygen.html
    Cancer cells.....cannot survive in the presence of high levels of oxygen
    ...
    Correction.... since first writing this I was informed that it was actually the family maid who
    let my father in law know about this. You see the maid... and her family... .and her neighbours.....
    cannot afford radiation, chemotherapy and surgery..... so they have zero choice but to find out
    what low cost alternative treatments might actually work?!
     
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    Ketogenic diets are showing great promise in the treatment and even cure of cancers.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4215472/

    The basic thinking and evidence is:
    1) Ketones are toxic to cancer cells. Ketogenic diets significantly increase ketone levels.
    2) Cancers need glucose. Ketogenic diets significantly reduce glucose levels
    3) Cancers need insulin to spread. Ketogenic diets significantly reduce insulin levels

    Ironically, the high-carb, low-fat diets that gained popularity since the 80s, mainly the Pritikin diet, may be perfect for promoting the growth of cancers.
     
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    Wow!!!!!

    This is an exceptionally informative post! Thank you!
     

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