Do you suspect that natural cures for cancer are suppressed?

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Do you suspect that large companies suppress truth about natural remedies?

  1. No, that is ridiculous and absurd!!!!!!!!!

    71 vote(s)
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  2. Sure....we all have an evil streak in us!

    23 vote(s)
    18.0%
  3. Yes, but misleading information on supposedly natural remedies is even worse!

    36 vote(s)
    28.1%
  4. My doctor would never do that!!!!

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  1. HereWeGoAgain

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    Thanks. I've been on a ketogenic diet for over five years and it helped to save my life. But not due to cancer. I had severe blood sugar issues. I decided to go ketogenic when it got so bad that I passed out from drinking a glass of milk.

    No more. And after losing almost 70 pounds, I'm healthier than I have been in 25 years. In some ways I'm healthier than I've ever been. My blood sugar issues go back to my earliest memories.

    I am a HUGE fan of ketogenic diets. But do your homework. Don't wing it. If done correctly, low carb works great. But if done incorrectly, you can do liver [possibly] and or kidney damage.
     
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    And there is this: Processed grains [carbohydrates], and an abundant supply of fruits and vegetables [sugar], have only been available for about the last 5000 years. While grains and farming made it possible to avoid starvation, in many parts of the world, throughout most of human history, we have probably been ketogenic - living on diets high in fat and protein but low in carbohydrates. We ate meat.

    We have two basic sources of energy. In Ketosis, we get our energy from fatty acids and their byproducts. In Glycolysis, we get our energy from glucose and its byproducts. It is reasonable to argue that in the long view, humans have lived on primarily ketogenic diets; especially during the fall and winter months.
     
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    Also, living in moderate or hard ketosis is strange. You get extreme dry-mouth due to the high levels of ketones, which also leave a distinct metallic taste in your mouth. When you enter ketosis, there is no missing it!

    When you get extreme dry-mouth after a hard workout, it is likely because you have used up all of the glycogen and glucose stores, and you are burning fat, which produces ketones - ketosis.

    An interesting addendum; Inuits living in the arctic regions didn't have any significant source of carbohydrates. They have always lived on ketogenic diets in the extreme.
     
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    Very interesting!

    My wife is doing weight watchers and introducing me to some ideas similar to this.

    All that you have written about this so far could be turned into a great opener to a separate discussion.
     
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    Consider!
    Do YOU know any heavy Marijuana users who got cancer? Any cancer.
    If they used Nicotine too they do not count.
    BTW heavy marijuana users also have less Type 2 Diabetes.
    Consider that next time you experience the munchies, only if you are :hippie: :weed:
     
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    Sanjay Gupta addresses this in his three-part documentary, Weed. The research institute in Israel that discovered the THC molecule is leading the charge.
    [video=youtube;PRLYV0_6zY8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRLYV0_6zY8[/video]
     
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    Sanjay Gupta is a whore. :rant:
    His opposition to :weed: he blamed on the gov't but,
    as a M.D. he should have been reading New England Journal of Medicine or British Medical Journal.
    Then he would have known better before he had to "apologize".

    Excuse me, I need to take my anti cancer Rx now :weed: :hippie: :lol:


    Moi, M.D. ret.
    Near 69 And still cancer free never had it.
    No Type 2 Diabetes either
    Runs heavy in the family


    r > g



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    Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
     
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    Okay... ::roll:

    I don't know why I even bother with forums any more.
     
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    Oh I do apologize.
    It must be a side effect of my cancer prevention medicine,
    or maybe I need more.

    Again, my apologies. Really.
    Please bother on. :smile:
     
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    Have you read about the Rick Simpson hemp oil treatment Moi621?
     
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    Interesting!


    http://phoenixtears.ca

    http://phoenixtears.ca/super-oils/

     
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    No but I believe.
    I have faith. :lol:

    Are you referring to the brain cancer study?
     
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    If I remember correctly Rick Simpson was actually using hemp oil as
    a treatment for his own case of prostate cancer.
     
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    I have smoked every day since 1965
    and I still don't have cancer :woot:
     
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    Wow!

    A random sample of one will not be taken very seriously
    by most in the medical community but this is another case of
    verification for a mass of data that is quite impressive already.
     
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    Nor do they take seriously any herb or its' natural product.
    Such are not profitable because they cannot be patented.
    Similar to Saw Palmetto and Proscar.
     
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    I type slowly for even a :flagcanada: to comprend tres bon.

    No pharmaceutical company can profit from an herb nor its' natural product. :rant:
    Saw Palmetto & Proscar = plastic Saw Palmetto & patentable.
    Similar to Ephedrine the product of the herb Ephedra sold in proprietary products
    Primatene & Bronchaid tables. I like Ephedrine better than the alternative Albuterol for
    the amount of relief to side effect I get. I use to get 1,000 Ephedrine capsules for under
    $10! The methamphetamine excuse ended that price, and only proprietary Ephedrine remains on the market. Bronkaid and Primatene.

    End typing, slowly.


    Moi :oldman:
    I had this really great add on but, it was time for my anti cancer medicine.
    It was really great too. :hmm: :lol:

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    Have you or any good friends ever tried glyco-nutrients?

    You may find post #3 especially interesting.....


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/why-would-dr-ben-carson-make-such-claims.453165/


    Why would Dr. Ben Carson make such claims?
     
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    Lord Knows y'don't even let me finish editing before replying.
    Numero Uno, there are "nutritional fats". Nutritional Fatty Acids.
    As important as the Essential Amino Acids and I could believe
    there do exist nutritional "sugars". And I bet they are there in
    fruits and vegetables just as essential amino acids and fatty acids are
    there in a well marbled piece of yummy beef.
    No juices. More sweet fruits and veges. Fresh Fresh Fresh.
    Sugars become starches as soon as picking occurs. I eat my corn in my
    yard as I pick it. So sweet and tender that way.
    No Juicers. The Real Thing.

    Thus Spaketh Moi :oldman:
     
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    Your reply is very helpful and useful Moi621.....
    I quoted you in full back into that other discussion:


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...rson-make-such-claims.453165/#post-1067207446
     
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    Interesting indeed.......


    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-much-are-drug-companies-paying-your-doctor/


     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...n-of-the-dollar.515180/page-3#post-1068059500

    True... but Monsanto is hard to stop......
    and Big Pharma is attempting to "shoot the moon or go for control" if you happen to
    play Bill Gates' favourite card game, hearts.

    In part 2 of the Burzynski movie...... a high level member of the Obama administration is quoted as
    admitting that he loved this particular cure for brain cancer but............
    he felt that Wall Street could be so negatively impacted that the results could
    turn out to be worse than 2008.......... So he would not use his influence to
    try to stop the highly unethical suppression of the only PROVEN cure for various types of
    brain cancers.


    http://www.burzynskimovie.com/synopsis/#.Wc4KLxNSyV4
     
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    An old friend of mine just mentioned Laetrile to me.... so I had to search this topic up again......
     
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    None of these "cures" have been proven to actually cure cancer. None of the researchers who made them have been willing to release any documentation.

    The only thing that there is actual clinical evidence of actually killing cancer cells, other than chemo and radiation therapies, is cannabis. Cannabis has been used for years outside the US, and illegal inside the US, for decades,and there are several documented cases where a person taking no chemo or radiation, has had their cancers cured because cannabis, and a number of doctors who oversaw the case have backed this up, and said that they suspect it's the cannabis that cures it, but can't get the funding to actually research it and find out the exact mechanism because the federal government doesn't recognize cannabis as a medical drug, and won't give research funding.
     
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