Why do liberals think its so terrible to live in a white country?

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  1. Brewskier

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person_of_color

    So, basically a Marxist term developed within the last few decades in order to group all minorities together against whites. Not surprising.

    But what significance is the term if a white and Asian have the same skin color, which is true in many cases?
     
  2. Brewskier

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    Where are those?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so Apartheid South Africa, was Marxist?

    The Segregationist South was Marxist?

    they all seperated whites from everyone else.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I posted them.

    you just ignored them
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you can't expect anyone to take your comments seriously when you discount years of genetic research simply due to the ethnicity of the scientist.
     
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    You probably didn't know what white Australia was. It was a policy of accepting white immigrants only. They ended that in 1975.

    Society has been falling apart ever since... What about your hero Ronald Reagan and the years of peace and prosperity the US enjoyed under Clinton? I may not agree 100% with either of those American presidents, but I've been told how great it was to be alive in those years. And those years were AFTER 1967.
     
  7. Brewskier

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    Didn't you read my post? They said the term was invented to try and encourage all non-whites to join up politically.
     
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    The effects of "diversity" were not fully felt yet. If we had the same demographics in 1980 that we do now, Reagan wouldn't have won, and Clinton (who was the Democrats' relatively conservative choice after their colossal left-wing losses during the 80's), wouldn't have become President. We would have had a 2nd term of Carter, followed up by Mondale, Dukakis, and even more left-wing choices. Things would be very different today, and not in a good way.
     
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    who is "they"?
     
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    do you now accept that this haplotype is black African in origin?

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  11. Brewskier

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    Indeed.
     
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    Why would I do that? You've presented no evidence to suggest that.
     
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    i posted quotes from the article stating so
     
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    Type 2 diabetes is a big problem in SE Asians and Indians. They actually have a 'stronger' predisposition to it than do white Europeans.
     
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    Any 'white' person with these kinds of blood disorders is therefore not white.
     
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    We're talking about race, not sexuality. Nice try, though.

    As for race relations, they were probably better at the end of last century than they are today. Thanks Barry.
     
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    Because it's the complaining that counts (to your hipster friends), not the doing. Doing is for stupid non-hipster charity workers and such.
     
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    Equality is equality. Those that hate non white, the majority hate all things not like them specifically. It's all the same mentality.

    And how would you know? You half a world away. You claim.
     
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    You bring up complaining? When you are a Crank?
     
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    Australian indigenous child normally blonde in central Australia

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    Damn but they have the sunniest smiles on earth!!
    Many Melanesians also are blonde
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    Solomon Islanders
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    Green eyes are also not uncommon

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    The White Nationalist/White Supremacist propaganda is full of examples of quotations by those like Thomas Jefferson and James Madison that state that blacks would not be equal to whites in America. Jefferson refers to blacks as being little more than children unable to contribute and compete in the white society of America and both Madison and Jefferson, in advocating for ending slavery that they considered to be an inherent evil in America, stated that the freed slaves would have to live somewhere other than in the United States.

    But this is propaganda and like all propaganda it's built upon a foundation of sand because it only represents a half-truth. They don't explain why, in the minds of the most intelligent men in America, blacks would not be equal in America. The reason why is hidden in other quotations that only an informed person would locate to debunk the propaganda of the white racists in America.

    The institution of slavery did not just result in the bondage of the body of the slave but also the mind. The blacks were intentionally taught to be little more than children. Denied education and even the fundamental foundation for society, marriage, the black slaves were deprived of the intellectual and cultural development to be equal with whites in America.

    Jefferson notes this in his statement where the development of these traits was suppressed both in thought and even more so in exercising those thoughts. Jefferson, Madison, and the other founders were fully aware of this intellectual and cultural suppressing that, even under the best of circumstances, would take many generations before there would be parity between blacks and whites.

    To provide some understanding of how long it takes to achieve parity we can look at another case related to achieving economic parity. Economic studies that when there is substantial wealth disparity, like the disparity in household wealth between blacks and whites today where median black household wealth is about $11,000 while white household wealth is about $140,000, if all things are equal it requires about 15 generations (450 years) for parity to be achieved. That's right, 450 years of "economic equality" is required before economic parity is achieved.

    The founders knew that it would require many generations before freed black slaves could make the transition from the intellectual and cultural oppression imposed by slavery before reaching full parity with whites in America. It wasn't that the blacks were inherently inferior but instead they had been systematically made inferior by the White Supremacists in America.

    As Madison points out it was impossible for blacks to be equal in America because of the anti-black racial prejudice of the White Supremacists in America and we've seen that since the Civil War where anti-black prejudice has denied blacks equality across the board. The White Supremacists have denied blacks their right to vote, they've denied them equality in education, and they've denied them economic equality. The social, economic, and political institutions are controlled by "White (Protestant) Men" and blacks in America have been oppressed by these institution every single day since the founding of America.

    It wasn't that the founders didn't believe that blacks were inherently inferior to whites but instead that they understood that the White Supremacists denied blacks equality and would continue to deny blacks equality in America.

    This has been and remains the goal of the White Nationalists/White Supremacist - denial of equality to blacks (and other races, religions, ethnic backgrounds, gender and other invidious demographic labels) in America. Their propaganda of half-truths is how they convince the uninformed to join their ranks but the informed know better and this propaganda can be debunked.
     
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    just as Conservative and Regresives love living in a nation that is becoming more and more Liberal/Progressive.

    they have no intention of leaving
     
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    The Founding Fathers acknowledged that slavery violated the core American Revolutionary ideal of liberty and Benjamin Franklin petitioned to abolish slavery in 1790. They were heavily influenced by Enlightenment thinkers and ideologically close to today's metropolitan liberals, contrary to the popular misconception that racism was pervasive among them.
     
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    Who is the "we" that you refer too ?
     
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    Ole Benny was also very hard on the poor whites around him. While we think of him fondly, he was a man of his times and if we ever knew the sorry truth about him we would have to acknowledge even more disturbing truths about our very existence as a nation founded upon the ideas of liberty but not the practice of liberty.
     

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