Mass Shooting in Vegas

crazy for sure, would be like having to prove you needed free speech or religion in your life

you can imagine the abuse there, Christians denying all other religions, dems denying republicans free speech rights, repubs denying democrats free speech rights, the list goes on

rights become privileges when you have to have the privilege to have a right

 

the left has their crazies and so does the right..... neither party is exempt from that

the sad thing is that both sides can't even agree on the things we agree on anymore sadly, it's like sports, the home team is great, the away team is evil

 

what do you mean, like he was not really the killer and the real killer killed him and left before the cops came in, I think that would be easy enough to verify, not likely, but would be an interesting twist if true though

 

Are you one of those? Are you referring to the conspiracists on Infowars and GatewayPublic? Somehow the ghost guy not only got into his hotel apartment with all those guns and ammo but also stacked up Paddock's car with more weapons and explosives and also decided to plant even more guns, ammo and other weaponry in Paddock's house just for the hell of it. There was I thinking why would the real terrorist not just rent that hotel apartment himself as it would have been much easier, less risky and cheaper to do than go through all that polava in using a patsy that those conspiracists believe happened

 

We are going to find a diary that says his dream was to go out in a laze of glory and so he did so.

Yup

The more this is looked at, the more I truly believe there is nothing we could have done

 

I determine my agreement or disagreement by issue because my views range from moderate to conservative depending on the issue.

 

49% of America thinks we should only have a gun when you demonstrate "genuine need"?

BS, I call complete bs on this list

 

Same thing as farm culture or music culture or any culture. The collective literature and lore that has to do with that subject..

 

Read your sources.

There's been a mountain of research on the subject, but these dozens of studies conducted over many years and in many different countries reach a broad and sometimes contradictory range of conclusions. It's hard to know what it really tells us, taken together, about whether gun laws can reduce gun violence.

The authors are careful to note that their findings do not conclusively prove that gun restrictions reduce gun deaths. However, they did find a compelling trend whereby new restrictions on gun purchasing and ownership tended to be followed by a decline in gun deaths.

Fallacy: Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
You either do not understand this (appeal to ignorance) or you know this full well and hope others do not(appeal to dishonesty)

Try again.

 

That's a nice appeal tp emotion you have there.
Thank you for continuing to prove me right.

 

Ok. I'd say your views seem to be moderate to liberal. That's just my impression.

 

Said no honest thinking person, ever.

 

How do you stop a person with the right to own a gun from owning a gun?

 

If the "compelling trend" tended to demonstrate that gun deaths increased following new restrictions on gun purchasing and ownership, would you tout it as evidence?

More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows

 

Another fallacious appeal to emotion.
Keep them coming!

 

Fallacy: Red herring. This claim was not made.
So far, you're batting 0.000

 

Factually accurate.

Las Vegas tragedy is 273rd mass shooting in 275 days

 

Because reasoned, thinking people are not swayed by fallacious appeals to emotion.

 

Which is no way means it is not a fallacious appeal to emotion.
Because, well, it is.
And, apparently, it's all you have.

 

I think you have to be per-disposed to being violent for them to have an effect like that, but the same is true of politics, sports and even religion if your the wrong kinda person

 

Well you've altered your list of supposed fallacies, so that's something. Still inaccurate because the "good guy with a gun" claim has been touted multiple times in this thread alone. But I can keep going.

The number of guns per capita per country was a strong and independent predictor of firearm-related death in a given country, whereas the predictive power of the mental illness burden was of borderline significance in a multivariable model. Regardless of exact cause and effect, however, the current study debunks the widely quoted hypothesis that guns make a nation safer.

 

You won't. The 2nd will never be amended - not in least part because all you have to try to convince people to support such an amendment is fallacious appeals to emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty.
Reasoned, thinking people are not swayed by such things.

 

While these kinds of things do happen in other countries it is nowhere near the frequency and extent they happen here. There have been violently insane people in every place and age, but only here have they been so very well equipped to carry out their murderous inclinations.

 

Sweet. How many of these were gang related, and in Chicago?

 

America is a land of extremes. Everything about this global era is magnified in America. I think that the alienation that drives mass murder is stronger here. America is a land of death.