So where is one to go, if you need a bicycle manual to tell you what a bicycle was produced your obstinateness ain't buying anything I deliver
Then why isn't Indiana having the same crime problems as is Chicago? The reason is it is not the guns. It's the people.
I live in Los Angeles. CA residents are required to register their simi automatic rifles as assault weapons if the webbing between their thumb and forefinger is below the top of the trigger. These firearms cannot be sold of transferred. They are banned! Also, they cannot be transferred, so when I die, my kids may not inherit them. They will be confiscated! This is not NRA propaganda; this is reality.
I live in Commie-Fornia also. It's not just the pistol grip. If any semi-automatic rifle that can accept a detachable magazine has any of the evil features (pistol grip, flash hider, folding/collapsible stock, or bullet button), then it is an assault weapon. I converted all my rifles to featureless so I wouldn't have to register them.
I am all too familiar with the list of evil features. While good people like you are modifying their rifles to comply, I can't help but wonder what mods the gang members are making to their AR or AK rifles? They also banned what they call ghost guns. Law abiding Californians had to put a number on their home made firearm and register them. I wonder how many criminals did the same!
Can I ask why are you for requiring licensing and training classes? What mass shooting, murder, or intentional crime would these laws have prevented?
1. Not true. Some technologies were made for a specific purpose, some found secondary purposes, some found purposes in which they were not meant for but actually are better at, and some were stumbled upon. 2. Being a dishonest and uncivil leftist isn't going to help your debate. I’d have though you would have learned this by now. You’re second statement is also false. There have been many attempts at bans and currently there are places in our country that have successfully banned certain firearms. 3. Not a wild wild west in Indian! If that’s where the gun laws are low and there isn’t a wild west there then that proves you incorrect. Open mouth insert foot. 4. Paranoia from gun owners is only due to the historical and current treatment they receive, as clearly demonstrated in your dishonest and hateful comments above; “gullible gun owners”
I built my 80% AR pistol years prior to that law. Even then I put identification marks on my AR pistol and voluntarily registered as a hand gun just so that if I got stopped by law enforcement it would be less of a hassle. To avoid registering my AR pistol with regards to the new assault weapons laws (no bullet button), I cut, crimped and inverted my gas tube to make it into a bolt action pistol. The gas tube is only a few dollars. So, not much of a monetary loss and easily can be made back into a semi-automatic if I decide to move out of state or if we win some court cases.
They aren't "free of liability" that's foolish hyperbole that shows Mr. Wheeler has no credibility. They are as liable for manufacturers defects as an auto maker or any other manufacturer is. If an auto manufacturer were liable for the deliberate criminal use of a car, we wouldn't have any cars. Which, when it comes to the gun grabbers is exactly what you want. You are fooling no one. The Democrats attack on our civil right to self-defense is what has cost them the support of nearly every State with a strong gun culture. I suspect NH, the rest of Maine and Minnesota to be the next states to don the MAGA hat!
I can't say for certain wether they would help mass-shootings specifically (though having to go through the process may create opportunities where the individual planning it might trip up or get noticed), but objects with such destructive potential should always require training. Vehicles, heavy duty construction equipment, airplanes, demolitions equipment, etc..etc.. What (besides guns) objects that people interact with with similar destructive capabilities also come with little to no training or education on the object at hand? I think that would reduce a lot of accidents for sure, and maybe put a dent in some of the non-accidental injuries and deaths.
Sounds like you think you have found a loophole for doing away with the 2nd amendment without the aggravation of doing it according to the constitution. Clearly nihilistic.
Boy are you misinformed! First, a gun is a tool with a barrel that shoots a projectile. How retarded to think a gun is only made to kill other people with. Almost all the time guns are fired for the purpose to hit paper, steal or clay targets. Next most commonly, they are fired for hunting/sporting use, and finally they are used to shoot people as a more uncommon use. You are too prejudiced to even want to recognize that semi-auto firearms are used in all kinds of sporting events: Practical shooting, also known as action shooting or dynamic shooting, is a generic term applicable to shooting sports where speed is of equal importance as precision. Many of the disciplines involve movement, and when using handguns they are often drawn from a holster. The International Practical Shooting Confederation (IPSC) is the oldest and largest sanctioning body within practical shooting. IPSC is sometimes considered the "Formula One" of shooting sports, and is shot with handguns, rifles and shotguns. While the United States Practical Shooting Association (USPSA) is the U.S. regional affiliate of IPSC, many of USPSA's rules differ slightly from those used internationally. IPSC was developed by former police and civilian marksmen and later used as a basis for modern military and police exercises. It is a variation where the shooter often moves during shooting, and hits scored and shooting time are equally important. Stage procedure is generally not dictated (freestyle) and the shooter is allowed to determine the order and manner in which he or she engages the targets. International Defensive Pistol Association (IDPA) is an action shooting sport that uses semi-automatic handguns and revolvers with a strong emphasis on concealed shooting. Many aspects of stage engagement are dictated to competitors and penalties are given to competitors whom the safety officer determines attempted to gain a competitive advantage or engaged in a forbidden action with a "guilty mind" - that he knowingly failed to do right. 3-Gun (3G) or Multi-Gun (MG) are practical shooting events where each of the stages generally require the competitor to use and transition between a combination of rifles, handguns, and/ or shotguns[18] or other types of firearms. 3-Gun has a lot in common with ordinary IPSC/ USPSA matches, having courses of fire where the shooter must move through different stages and engage targets in a variety of different positions. Steel Challenge is a speed shooting championship solely about shooting steel targets as fast as possible, and is governed by the Steel Challenge Shooting Association (SCSA). There are eight standarized courses of fire, and a special "stop plate" must be shot last to stop the timer. International Confederation of Revolver Enthusiasts (ICORE) is an international community which promotes action shooting competitions with revolvers. Founded in 1991, the sport has elements from the Bianchi Cup, IPSC, and the Steel Challenge.[19] IPSC Action Air follows the same principle of IPSC, using airsoft instead of real firearms. The ranges, paper targets and poppers are scaled down to suit airsoft, and the sport enjoys popularity in countries such as Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Japan where civilian ownership of real firearms are either illegal or extremely difficult to obtain. Bowling pin shooting (primarily shot with handguns) has the competitors race against one another to knock standard bowling pins from a table in the shortest elapsed time. ActionAirgun is an indoor action shooting sport using semi-automatic airsoft pistols and courses of fire downloaded from a central hub. Shooters upload shooting times to a website to resolve competitions. Chicago is an urban killing zone where thousands of Blacks and Hispanics (almost exclusively) kill each other over drugs and territory. These thugs have wide public support from the liberal Democrats who have absolute control of the city, and know they can almost always get away with "being as bad as they want to be." Educate yourself on who is doing what: http://heyjackass.com/ And finally there are all kinds of you liberal fanatics calling for total gun control: Senator Dianne Feinstein Dianne Feinstein, the senior Senator from California, who is leading the gun control push in the Senate said in a 1995 interview, after getting her assault weapons ban passed, “If I could have banned them all – ‘Mr. and Mrs. America turn in your guns’ – I would have!” Former NY Mayor Ed Koch Former top Democratic mayor Ed Koch said he wants to ban all guns for everyone except law enforcement. Attorney General Eric Holder The Obama administration’s Attorney General Eric Holder doesn’t suggest banning or confiscating guns. He just thinks we should brainwash the American people into wanting to get rid of guns. http://gunssavelives.net/blog/gun-l...e-quotes-from-anti-gun-leaders-say-otherwise/
I can agree that training is optimal but that should be a decision of the State the gun is purchased in not a federal law. Licensing on the other hand can be tricky. In some states it is a simple thing, fill out a form maybe take a class. But other states use it as a means of denying weapons to people. Try and get a carry license in New York for instance and it can take months and a good amount of money. If licensing is required it should also be a state issue and it should be as easy as voting.
Actually, the sale of these weapons prior to the late 60s did not exist. The man that invented the AR15 which was the M16 originally and sold only to the military. That patent or company was then purchased by a gun manufacturer and sold to the public through a long term advertising campaign supported by the NRA. Forty years later, gun nuts think it is their divine right to own a weapon designed for war. I guarantee you, my father who grew up hunting rabbits with a 16 gauge never, ever considered using a weapon like this for sport. I did not either. Get rid of all of them. As for the statist label, turn off Mark Levin.
Yeah they just had the SKS, and the SVT40, and the Garand, and the M1A1. Also: "Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment . We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U. S. 844, Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, 533 U. S. 27, Second Amendment extends, prima facie,to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding." https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZO.html So did you write this with a quill pen and send it pony express? I don't listen to Mark Levin, he didn't create the term statist. It is in fact my natural right to own a weapon designed for war. Natural rights are what the BOR recognizes. The 2nd amendment is not about hunting or sport shooting, you won't find that anywhere in the 2a. Any appeal to that logic as satisfying the right is absurd. I shoot wild pigs with my AK. They're vermin, its always open season here, they're an invasive species, they cause property damage, and they're made of bacon. Also see: US v Miller the 2a protects "ordinary military equipment". Like M16s. So technically, if we're going by the precedents on the books and the facts, I'm entitled to purchase an m16.
They do, Indiana actually has a larger gun problem than Illionis https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_in_the_United_States_by_state
First of all, the 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting and everything to do with overthrowing a tyrannical government. Secondly, all weapons are weapons of war. When the 2nd Amendment was ratified, the military had the same weapons as did the civilians. At that time, civilians and the military had at their disposal pistols, rifles, grenades, mortars, canons, and ships laden with canons, yet the founding fathers didn't put in an restrictions into the 2nd Amendment. Also, 70 years prior to the ratification of the 2nd Amendment, there exist a Gatling type gun that had removable drum magazines and was one of the earliest weapons to be referred to as a "machine gun", being called such in a 1722 shipping manifest, even though its operation does not match the modern use of the term... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puckle_gun And the AR isn't the earliest of these types of weapons. The Thompson machine gun was invented in 1917... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_submachine_gun The German Sturmgewehr 44 machine gun was invented in 1942... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44
Chicago. He said Chicago. You missed that in purpose because you do not want to admit he is right. Never mind the fact your source shows IN has a --lower-- rate than IL.
So your telling us these guns are made for sport, the same semiautomatic weapons delivered to the military are for sport The purpose of a gun, why it is produced is to kill, people don't design guns for sports, they aren't mass produced to shoot at paper targets, you really can't be that naive And if you need a semiautomatic weapon to hunt you shouldn't be hunting
The military does not issue semi-automatic weapons; the weapons used by the military are not sold to the general public..
It is unconstitutional to impose an excessive burden to exercise a right It would hurt the ones that have the need to own a gun the most and that is the poor forced to live in crime riddled neighborhoods
Don't forget the Girandoni Air Rifle. 20 rounds per air tube which is charged with a hand pump. Silent. No smoke. Could shoot and reload from prone unlike a musket. No muzzle flash. No powder pan flash blinding you either. Same general effective range of a musket, bit farther actually. And more accurate by leaps and bounds. No powder to worry about wetting. The advantages go on.
