Kanye West dares to step off the plantation... enjoys threats on his life for it!

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Slavery was consensual".



    boy, Kanye truly is a moron
     
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    Link to quote?

    Not that I don't believe you, but there sure have been a lot of straw men created on this subject.
     
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    he said "after 400 years, slavery was a choice"
     
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    lol...when Kanye was saying George Bush hates black people after Katrina everybody called him a great social critic. Now he deviates from the party line and he's a moron.

    This is why the left went after Ben Carson so hard. He's a black man who's successful and doesn't feel like he owes it all to Democrats. They're worried if other blacks see that they might escape poverty AND SLAVERY and eventually leave the party.
     
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    no he was a moron back then too
     
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    Link to quote?

    Not that I don't believe you, but there sure have been a lot of straw men created on this subject.

    Perhaps, if you would research his actual statements, you would discover that he didn't say what others are telling you he said.
     
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    Fresh out of a mental institution, Kanye began admiring Trump.

    I think that says it all about Trump supporters, really.
     
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    https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/01/entertainment/kanye-west-slavery-choice-trnd/index.html

    "When you hear about slavery for 400 years ... For 400 years? That sounds like a choice."

    The rapper went on to add:

    "You were there for 400 years and it's all of y'all. It's like we're mentally imprisoned."
     
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    If you have 100 or so black friends, then sure you have more than I've met.
    If you agree with them, then I take it they are doing all the things on your list. Every last one of them. Or they were never in the inner city where most of the big problems exist. They had parents? They had a family, with money to provide basic needs?

    Having money to buy basic life needs is not wealth, that is surviving.

    Wealthy by what standards? They own a home?
    I suppose, i guess there are no R's in Michigan to help schools. Oh wait, it's the R party that cuts educational spending.
    But yes, I think it was the D's that started this program that ended up being called Red Lining in the 50s or 60s. Which created what were good neighborhoods into what is what the ghettos are today. Lack of money, from basically discriminating lead to much of the inner city problems of today.

    Every gang banger has those? Or just a few who are at the top. Or 1 at the top?

    You offered words, words I actually agree with. But words don't change anything.
    Actions is where things get done.
    How do those in the inner city choose not to get caught up in the everyday life? What options are there?

    What I got? Not much as I am too far removed.
    But I'd say schools should be up to standards set by state.
    Jobs, what kind of jobs are there in those areas?
    Basic needs to be met needs money, NOTE, not wealth, to survive today.
    So jobs are needed, education is needed so better jobs can be in the future.
     
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    Rephrase, his points were sensical. But saying all one has to do is just stop doing what happens in their lives everyday as if it is as simple as that, is what is nonsensical.
    Does a smoker wake up one day and say I don't want to smoke anymore and never light up another cigarette? Sure some, but a very very tiny amount can do that.
     
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    The hardest question to answer is: How do we change people's attitudes? How do we, when everybody tells them they can't, convince them that they can?
     
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    It is, especially to a large group of people. Which was my main, badly worded point. They live the life of bad everyday, no matter how much they want to escape or try, it's near a no win situation.
    But positive reinforcement is a viable tool.
    And as for societies, it will take a minimum of a generation. IMO.
     
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    So he has no right to his opinion claiming that the political system, including Democrats, have mentally imprisoned blacks as perpetually oppressed prodigy of slaves?

    Should other people do that to? Native Americans all declaring they are perpetually oppressed by the victimhood of their ancestors? What about the Irish? Jews? Poles? Chinese? Eastern Europeans? Russians? 99% of people whose ancestors were slaves and serfs? ALL perpetually victims for that past. And should act like it too, make it a central psychology of their life.

    That is what the Democratic Party says blacks should do. Be the oppressed inferior different species of humans forever.
     
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    Yes, what he said is a person can agree to mentally be a slave - or not.

    It is not just how long should a person live their life as a victim of some past serious offense, but how many generations later does that victimhood still apply? If your great grandfather murdered my ancestors, then clearly I should accept that as my victimhood too - probably could find a lot of tangible rationalizations for that - and then treat you as if you are your great grandfather, seeking justice and satisfaction from you.

    Is that why you believe? Seriously? Sounds like the rational of the Shites and Sunnis killing each other for 1500 years over a dispute over Muhammed's will over who inherited Mohammed's rule - plus then clan feuds of murder spanning generations and hundreds of years. 900 years ago people from one tribe killed someone of other, therefore they must keep killing each other forever after - victimhood generation to generation - forever.

    You say you are a Jew. Do you say you are the prodigy slaves and holocaust victims? Every define or see yourself that way? Claim that victimhood of the past severely harms and defines you now?

    People say they are white. Never "White-American." Never "Prodigy of European serfs White-Americans." But prodigy of former slaves Black-Americans should apply to every generation of Blacks - though that certainly never applied to Barack Obama.

    How many more generations do you say black Americans should see themselves as victims of slavery?
     
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    yes, he has a right to be a moronic fool.

    and we have the right to expose it.
     
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    I always check "other", then write in European-American.
     
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    Yes, you, I and everyone else has that right.

    I guess my message was just too hard to think about.
     
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    you Conservatives seem to think we have no right to criticise Lord Kanye.
     
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    You are mistaken.

    What I continue to find disturbing is the outright lies about what his actual words were. The shameless distortions are what I think people don't have a right to.

    I'm pretty fed up with Leftist/Democrat propaganda. They can't win an honest debate, so all they can do is whip out one, or more, of their lying tactics.
     
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    What benefit to the democratic party does that produce though? It reduces the roles of folks who need the programs they populate with their flunkies, so why ever explain, or teach folks that they are their own key to success and improvement?
     
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    Criticize him, or put a hit out on him?
     
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    Have any of you ever heard Redemption Song, by Bob Marley? Bob Marley must have been off his meds too, right?

    Lyrics
    Old pirates, yes, they rob I
    Sold I to the merchant ships
    Minutes after they took I
    From the bottomless pit
    But my hand was made strong
    By the hand of the Almighty
    We forward in this generation
    Triumphantly
    Won't you help to sing
    These songs of freedom?
    'Cause all I ever have
    Redemption songs
    Redemption songs
    Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery
    None but ourselves can free our minds
    Have no fear for atomic energy
    'Cause none of them can stop the time
    How long shall they kill our prophets
    While we stand aside and look? Ooh
    Some say it's just a part of it
    We've got to fulfill the Book
    Won't you help to sing
    These songs of freedom?
    'Cause all I ever have
    Redemption songs
    Redemption songs
    Redemption songs
    Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery
    None but ourselves can free our minds

    Wo! Have no fear for atomic energy
    'Cause none of them-a can-a stop-a the time
    How long shall they kill our prophets
    While we stand aside and look?
    Yes, some say it's just a part of it
    We've got to fulfill the book
    Won't you have to sing
    These songs of freedom?
    'Cause all I ever had
    Redemption songs
    All I ever had
    Redemption songs
    These songs of freedom
    Songs of freedom
    Songwriters: Bob Marley

     
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    I don't know what can be done. I only know that Democrats and Progressives aren't the answer.
     
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    “When you hear about slavery for 400 years ... for 400 years? That sounds like a choice,” -Kanye West


    such a scumbag
     
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