Calling Prophet Muhammad a pedophile does not fall within freedom of speech: European court

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  1. Canell

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    What, are you serious?!
    Didn't know that. It is sick. What a surprise, eh?
     
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    I consider you more ethical than Mohammad.
     
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    And that's the danger that people can decide what they think is free speech and restrict people because "They know" better.

    That's slippery slope I'm not willing to go down no matter how tempting it might initially seem.

    The road to hell is littered with good intentions.
     
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    People follow said religion, ie Christianity. Maybe a percentage of Christians are aware that the Bible is symbolic and take into account today's laws. Maybe a percentage of Muslims take the Quran literally and override today's laws. Maybe many Western countries from the lefty Political Correctness period embrace Muslims (Just like Obama and Blair did) that the left today support, hence why Trump got bad press trying to sort out this mess.
     
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    I'm not kidding.
    He also had his eyes on Aisha for FUTURE SEXUAL INTERCOURSE when she was a BABY, yes, a baby. Honestly, look that up in the Islamic texts. Yes, to his "credit" he refrained from regular sexual intercourse with the poor child until she was the ripe old age of NINE, but still.

    Canell, have you ever looked at a BABY and said to yourself "Oh HELL yeah!! Mmmmm, some day.....some....day!!!"
    I know the answer but I just thought I'd point that out.

    "Muhammad placed his penis between the thighs of Aisha and he massaged it to orgasm since he could not have sexual intercourse with her until she was nine." https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Aisha
     
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    Good thing that "hell" is just a ridiculous construct intended to try to threaten gullible non-believers with torture (since they can't ACTUALLY get away with torturing non-believers, even though religious clerics would certainly love to do that - just like during the Inquisition.)
     
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    Check on that, and then report back to us whether it's true or not.
     
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    Yes, religious people are SCARED by the Mafia-like promise of "hell/torture" for simply thinking differently than the barbarian Jesus, or Allah, etc.
     
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    Ask a Muslim "if, repeat if, hypothetically here, for argument's sake, Aisha was nine, would you, if you had Allah's alleged super-powers, have suggested to Mohammad to not violate the child sexually?"

    Go ahead, ask them that....I know what their response will be, and it's not more ethical than what Xians reply when asked similarly hard-hitting ethical questions about Xianity. So Muslims are no more unethical than Xians are.
     
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    What if I can show you in the Islamic texts that Muhammad approved of starting a fire on a Jew's chest in order to get him to tell Muhammad's gang where the money was? Would you condemn Mohammad then, Nonnie? Or is torture acceptable to you?
     
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    Yes, not surprisingly it's very very hard for people to admit to themselves "wow, my #1 role model of all time is a pedophile, hand-picked by my all-ethical, all-knowing god."
     
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    Yes, that's because ancient books should not define our modern morality.
     
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    God raped her.
    Rape is approved by the Bible/God: http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/rape-in-the-bible/
    Too bad Xians can't seem to muster the moral courage to remove RAPE approval from the texts that they say to their impressionable young children are the best moral guide in world history! Wow.
     
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    The bible pretty explicitly states this.

    Teacher,” they said to Jesus, “this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 The law of Moses says to stone her. What do you say?(old testament)”
    6 They were trying to trap him into saying something they could use against him, but Jesus stooped down and wrote in the dust with his finger. 7 They kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!” 8 Then he stooped down again and wrote in the dust.
    9 When the accusers heard this, they slipped away one by one, beginning with the oldest, until only Jesus was left in the middle of the crowd with the woman. 10 Then Jesus stood up again and said to the woman, “Where are your accusers? Didn’t even one of them condemn you?”
    11 “No, Lord,” she said.
    And Jesus said, “Neither do I. Go and sin no more......”"

    "For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ...Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother's way."

    Ephesians 2
    15 by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations.

    Hebrews 8
    13 By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

    Romans 10
    4Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.(*)

    Romans 7
    6But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

    2 Corinthians 3
    13We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at it while the radiance was fading away. 14But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away.

    Galatians 3 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."

    23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ[h] that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law
     
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    Careful, it appears that you are trying to in effect, indirectly, sort of EXCUSE Islamic pedophilia by pointing out that Xians are ALSO pedophiles at times. That's called a tu quoque argument, and is doomed to failure.

    What you're trying to do is not that dissimilar to: "Sure the Islamic texts teach vile hatred of Jews, but THE NAZIS ALSO taught hatred of Jews, so the Islamic texts are not so bad, see!!!!"
     
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    Do Xians have the moral courage to simply remove the barbaric parts that DO SAY to immorally stone people for that?
     
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    Stick with me, my young padawan, I have much much to teach you.
     
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    Throughout most of Islamic history it's been perfectly legal (Sharia Law) for a Muslim adult to sexually violate a 9 year-old child.
    Muhammad was 54 years old when he violated the poor child. But apparently daring to care about innocent children enough to simply point that out is "hate speech" according the the European Court!

    But this nutjob is perfectly fine with that!
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    I like Alexa, she is a caring person, she has just bought into the illogical fear that most all "prophets" (in a quest for power and adoration) put into people's hearts that if they dare to condemn a certain invisible man who lives in the sky that their magic "soul" (science shows the "soul" does not exist) will get brutally tortured forever by said "loving" invisible man. Xians are no better (and no worse.)

    Let's love them enough to show them a better way.
     
  24. Canell

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    He is not a nutjob, he is a "closet" Muslim. I thought you knew that.
     
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    It's hard for people to admit to themselves that they've been lied to by their parents, and often their entire CULTURE, their entire lives.
     
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