Do you agree with race realism?

That's the wink wink reason.

But, one has to build credit to get good credit scores.
If one is denied loans or credit cards, they never establish good credit to begin with.

There is no good way to change mindsets quickly.
Can you imaging the screaming if people were to start being arrested for racist talk in the privacy of one's home?

If there is racist thinking going on at home, the schools can show and point to a different, more tolerant point of view and thinking.
Which they do today, and that is called brainwashing by some.

 

When were they victims of discrimination? You know AA isn't about races?

 

Ok so there will never be enough special protections given to African Americans so the US should just eliminate the ones it has because victimization will always win. Why is it that Asian Americans are so successful in the US? They do not ask for special treatment. They just study hard and work hard and are especially despised by the African American community. Is it possible that many African Americans don’t want to work or study that hard but still want the material success and respect? Do you think that this may be the reason they are disrespected?

 

What?

Did you read my entire response?

 

The Chinese Exclusion Act was approved on May 6, 1882. It was the first significant law restricting immigration into the United States.
https://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=false&doc=47

The internment of Japanese Americans in the United States during World War II was the forced relocation and incarceration in concentration camps in the western interior of the country of about 120,000[5] people of Japanese ancestry, most of whom lived on the Pacific Coast.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter...Japanese Americans,lived on the Pacific Coast.

 

Negative mindsets about blacks will change when blacks stop committing all those crimes, and when they stop having all those illegitimate children that they expect whites to support on welfare.

Blacks cannot help being less intelligent than whites. They can improve their behavior.

 

AA is race-based discrimination. No matter how you fluff it up with soft definitions .. that's what it is. Every person who ever championed that kind of evil, had a soft definition for it. Most probably also claimed it was to correct a worse wrong. But you don't fix an evil with more of it.

Meantime, Progressive Leftists insist that black people can't function normally, and need the help of white people to just get through the day. They insist that black people are incapable of self-determination and decency - claiming they can't help their helplessness, and that they can't stop themselves from doing crime.

 

Cool. So a white person can access African American advantages?

 

Affirmative Action is a positive good, it is a payback to people who were wronged, the very meaning of equity, or justice.

When do Progressive Leftists say the kind of things you say they do? Leftists don't excuse anything but they also try not to put excessive demands on people and then severely punish them when they succumb.

Have you ever read "Les' Miserables"? Did you stand up and cheer for Inspector Javert throughout the novel?

 

What you are really saying is that because blacks were slaves a century and half ago, and discriminated against two generations ago, intellectual standards should be reduced for them in university admissions and hiring. What happened to blacks in the past does not explain their low IQ averages in the present. Affirmative action discriminates against whites and Orientals. It advances blacks to positions where they lack the intelligence to perform properly.

 

No race-based discrimination is EVER good. Our parents/grandparents fought that crap in the 60's, and you want to keep it going? Every racist policy ever conceived was "special and positive, and the exception". Do you not get that? Telling ourselves that our version is somehow okay, is just the lies we tell ourselves to enable racism.

Progressive Leftists don't just say that kind of thing, they INSIST on it. They will swear on their very lives, that black Americans are incapable of self-determination and decency. It's too much, to pretend that that isn't happening. I don't understand why you're doing so, frankly - you're an intelligent person.

 

OK, for a few years.
Not for 250 yrs as is the case with blacks. I agree.
Blacks have not been part of America since the founding. I agree.

 

Absolutely. They can access Affirmative Action.

Does your supposed non American country teach anything?

 

Flat out intentional untruth.

 

If people were wronged in the past we can and do try to come to equitable settlements of such matters in the present. I believe there have just been developments in the ongoing dispute the Cherokee nation have had with the USA for going on 200 years

Can you cite some specific examples? Shouldn't be any problem as all us PL's imbibe it with our mother's milk as you say.

 

What happened to black in the past does not explain their low average intelligence in the present. It does not excuse their high rates of crime and illegitimacy in the present.

 

The Cherokee nation is currently worse of because of injustices done to them in the past, like Trail of Tears. Blacks are worse off because of their current shortcomings. They are better off than the descendants of the blacks who enslaved their ancestors.

 

So maybe we should have just enslaved the Cherokee, and thus done them the same favor that slavery did to the blacks?

 

But indeed they are. They value justice and so want to see it done for themselves

 

It absolutely does.

 

They certainly are better off than the slave ancestors. NO Doubt.

But they have yet to reach the level of equality and status of the white colored people.
It's getting much closer, but it's not there yet.

Another 50 or so years and hopefully discussions like this are in the past.

 

Not if Republicans have anything to say about it.

 

You mean performing and behaving as well as Orientals, right? Your "studies" did show that Orientals have higher test scores
and lower incarceration rates than whites. You pretend that you are being scientific about this, but your call to be more "white" really shows us all what you're really about.

 

Ok then, be more like Orientals if that works for you but break the cycle of gangs and drugs.

 

Yes precisely. That is just what I mean. Orientals have higher average IQ's than whites, and lower rates of crime and illegitimacy. Orientals are models for all the other races, including the white race.

I am a white man who prefers Orientals to whites. I have never known an Oriental I did not like. I have known whites I disliked, even hated.