Do you agree with race realism?

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Do you agree with race realism?

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  1. (original)late

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    Nope.

    In every major conflict, Blacks have distinguished themselves in battle, and been rewarded.

    Each time, before WW2, those new liberties were savagely ripped away by racists. And they're trying to do it again..
     
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    Actually it works the other way around. I was woke before the word existed. I used to be enthusiastic about the civil rights movement. Back then I thought that when blacks were given equal rights they would begin to behave and perform as well as whites. Until then I was willing to make excuses for blacks. I made those excuses when I was a child, a teenager, and a young adult. When I got older I got tired of making excuses for those people. Now I am tired of hearing excuses for them. I am disgusted with their bottom basement test scores, their inferior performance in the class room and on jobs they get because of affirmative action, their sky high crime rates, and their jaw dropping rates of illegitimacy.
     
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    Humans are obviously unequal. Races are obviously unequal. Saying otherwise does not change facts that are obvious to everyone.
     
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    I do not complain about blacks having liberties equal to whites. I resent them having privileges superior to whites, like affirmative action. I do not like the way the mainstream media declines to draw attention to their high rates of crime and illegitimacy.
     
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    Tell that to The ghost of John Lewis and George Floyd

    I bet they are enjoying fried chicken and watermelons in heaven and laughing at your shallow stabs at being intellectual.

    Elijah might be there too.
     
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    President Johnson introduced the concept of affirmative action in his 1965 commencement speech at Howard University. He compared blacks to a "shackled runner" who previously had not been allowed to compete on equal terms. Back then affirmative action was conceived of as a temporary benefit to help a race that was considered to be intrinsically equal to whites.

    Now affirmative action is a permanent entitlement given to any demographic that by every objective measurable criterion does not perform adequately. Intellectual standards are lowered for blacks and Hispanics. Physical standards are lowered for women. In each case people are advanced to positions where they cannot do their jobs well.
     
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    Nobody is special or better than anyone else

    For every expert there is an equal and opposite expert
     
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    No, this is absurd, there are small physiological differences between the various races (Inuit people have eyes that suffer less from snow blindness, folks from East Africa are such good runners because they're involved from countless generations of hunters, people adapt to their environment through evolution) but it's absurd to say anyone's intellect or personality is dictated by their race.
     
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    George Floyd was a two bit criminal with a prison record who died after resisting arrest at the scene of his most recent crime. Like many men of his race, or perhaps most, he had a son he had done nothing to support. since the son was five years old.
     
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    Nobody. Nobody deserves to be choked to death .

    Big People respect others
     
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    8 minutes 46 seconds
     
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    Oh come on please! Are you saying that everyone has the intelligence to become a professional? This chart indicates otherwise:

    bellcurves.jpg
     
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    George Floyd died of a heart attack after fentanyl was found in his system.

    No one deserved to have their stores and jobs destroyed by the rioting and looting that followed his death.
     
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    400 years of Oppression?

    Smart ones get lynched?

    Only the dumb remain the same?

    Why don't we have a sip of Dr Banneker's Elixir?
     
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    If George Floyd had behaved like a civilized man and obeyed the policemen he would still be alive.
     
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    The Jews suffered at least a thousand years of oppression, culminating in the Holocaust. They dominate every field that requires superior intelligence, and tend to be quite a bit more prosperous than white Gentiles. By the way, I am not Jewish. I recognize and respect a superior race when I see one.

    Blacks do not suffer from "400 years of oppression." They and we suffer from the fact that the last thirteen thousand years of human evolution have not prepared most of them for the requirements of modern civilization. These are intelligence, obedience to the law, and monogamy. Characteristics that enabled their ancestors to survive in tribal societies of sub Saharan Africa earn for many of them felony convictions in civilized countries.
     
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    Why were men necessary for farming in cold climates but not in the "African Jungle" (It was more Savanna really). Indeed, isn't farming a fairly late step in human development with Hunting - Gathering being the main source of mans's sustenance over about 90% of his history. Both sexes are necessary for that.

    Why could children be raised with less assistance? Babies require about the same amount of care whether the dangers come from wild animals, excessive heat and disease or cold, wild animals and disease. Children could die from freezing to death as readily as they could catch something. ALL civs everywhere wanted lots of children, for most of them died before 5 up until the middle 20th century.

    But everyone took care of their kids, for the hardy survivors could take care of their parents, at least until they died themselves, at around 50.

    I really think you need to study your anthropology in a little more detail.
     
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    Quite a few Nazis said that too. They felt they had to kill the Jews before the Jews killed them

    If Africa was this salubrious paradise why did most of the world's races leave?

    You act as if all that matters in a race's history is what took place thousands of years in the past and completely ignore what happened just a few decades ago
     
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    The Bantu have practiced agriculture for about four thousand years. That is plenty of time for evolutionary changes. Cold climates in Europe require plows. Until recently these were horse drawn plows. Those required more strength to operate than women have. In Africa farming could be done with hoes. These can be used by women. Children do not freeze to death when they have both parents living together in matrimony to keep them warm.
     
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    The fentanyl certainly didn't help his heart's health but it wasn't the proximate cause of the heart attack. Your reasoning is like excusing someone for shooting somebody in the head because the victim was later found to have a brain tumor
     
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    Floyd was a career and violent criminal. The woman to whom he held a gun to her stomach as he robbed her looking for money and drugs didn’t deserve that either. Even his last act was criminal. I’m glad he is dead but I’m sorry that it was a police officer who killed him because this worthless scum is now become a martyr. And by the way whites are still killed by police in the greatest number and police killings in general are vanishingly small in a nation of 330 million people.
     
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    He wasn't, the drugs he took killed him, these poor cops used a legal technique they had been trained in and had the incredible bad luck to have to encounter the one in a million prisoner who was going to die from it.
     
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    Again it gets down to the reliability of IQ tests but the decision to ban them in public schools in most US districts makes careful peer reviewed analyses very difficult.
     
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    Modern humans emerged in Africa about 100,000 years ago.

    DNA evidence indicates that about 50,000 to 60,000 years ago one hundred to several hundred of these modern humans left Africa, probably crossing the Sinai Peninsula. It is from that small number of modern humans that the other races evolved. Agriculture began about 11,000 years ago in the Fertile Crescent. By then those we would recognize as Caucasians had evolved. When the agricultural population increased some of these neolithic farmers immigrated to what is now Turkey, and eventually to Europe. Others crossed the Sinai Peninsula, and populated the Nile Delta, which was well suited for agriculture.

    Agriculture requires different tendencies than hunting and gathering. For example, one must be able to defer gratification and plan for the future. When blacks and whites earn the same amount of money, blacks are less likely to save money. They are more likely to go into debt.

    Civilization began a little over five thousand years ago by Caucasians living in what is now Egypt, and what is now Iraq. Civilization selects for intelligence more than a Paleolithic or Neolithic way of life does. Intelligent men usually become prosperous. They usually had more children who survived and reproduced than unintelligent men. Civilization also selects genetically against criminal inclinations. Most criminals were killed at the scene of the crime, the died in custody, or they were executed. The few children some of them had rarely lived until adulthood. That is why the two races that practiced civilization the longest - I of course mean whites and Orientals - have the highest IQ averages and the lowest crime rates.

    What happened six decades ago was that blacks were given equal rights. Then they were given superior rights with affirmative action programs. What has happened since is that their rates of crime have risen.
     
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    Unfair, a better comparison would be the police forced to detain someone acting crazy due to meningitis and they then die, their restraint would be a factor in their death but that's not their fault. Difference is nobody gives themselves meningitis, Floyd chose to commit crime and take those drugs.
     

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