Stuffing Supreme Court

That would be a tragedy for our Democratic Republic. But they will have no option if Republicans insist on changing the rules... for a third time now, actually.

 

They can't declare war on each other. Nothing would ever work. Former Presidents and all influential political figures will need to unite if we are ever to unite this country after Trump. Besides, the real criminal was Cheney. Bush was just the useful fool. Did you ever watch the movie "Vice"? It's not a documentary but everybody who participated in that administration or knows Cheney personally say it's pretty accurate as a whole. Some small minor details made up for dramatic purposes, but the main story is quite correct, they say.

 

Daschle started the rule changing. He opened the door for anything goes.

Many scholars, if not most, think the supreme court is too large already. It has almost become more of a couple of voting blocks rather than a place of reason. Increasing the number of justices will just invite the same thing when republicans have the power to do it. In addition to being a way to circumvent the Constitution, it is a bad idea.

 

Quite the contrary. I think at least half the Supreme Court should be composed of non-lawyers. Very often lawyers are too caught up in their legal paradigm to consider justice as a factor worthy of consideration. And that is not good. Because of it, we have abandoned the principles of the Constitution, which were based on justice... not on laws. Laws are a medium to obtain justice.

You don't need to be a lawyer to know how this country came to be. A historian would understand that much better than an attorney. A psychologist or a sociologist or an economist... and many others could have a better perspective than any attorney. The only thing a lawyer knows that a layman can never know is how likely it is for a judge to rule in a certain way. That is irrelevant to a Supreme Court Justice. Because they are the ones doing the ruling. And the only reason they know this is because they have a sort of "secret code" that is inaccessible to the common citizen. How is it possible to rule on matters about how simple citizens should act, if the simple citizen doesn't understand this secret "code".

Any moderately intelligent person can read the constitution and understand it. Often times better than an attorney.

 

No, I haven't seen the movie although I have heard a little about it and should check it out. It's just difficult to watch these rapacious slimy SOB's despite the fact that it's just a portrayal. And why does that POS Cheney still have a functioning heart?! These freaks seem to live forever.

 

What you imply is totally false. Congress, meaning both House and Senate, would have to pass legislation specifying how many justices there should be on the Supreme Court.

It has been this ways since the very first act pertaining to this subject was finalized on September 24, 1789.

60 votes would be needed for cloture. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN unless one party or the other gets a super majority in the Senate.

 

Democrats can never have a majority, because there are zero democrat justices in the court. There are right wing justices, and there are fair justices. None of them are democrats.

However, 60 votes are not needed for cloture. The last two justices were appointed by a simple majority.

 

I wish Cheney a long long life with many many excruciatingly painful heart attacks.

Do check out the movie. Magnificently acted, very well made, and very educational. Cheney is truly an evil human being. Anything bad that happens to him is well deserved. Dying is too good.

 

What you have heard is scare tactics and bull dust. The Supreme Court should be non partisan

 

In other words, you have nothing useful to say.

 

Yes. That's true. I stand corrected.

 

It needs an act of Congress. Not 51 votes. 60 votes for cloture.

 

They why are all you liberals posting the desire to do it on all the internet forums?

 

Or as my late father would wish for garbage such as Cheney..."May he spend all his money on a dentist."
Your wish will do as well...hahahahahaha

 

Cloture for Gorsuch passed with 55 votes, and for Kavanaugh it was 51. They only needed 50, as Pence would break the tie.

 

A simple majority ( of one justice ) does not a packed court make.

But you're okay with them packing the court 6/3 in favor of right wing?

Packing the court is packing the court, and 7/6 court is LESS packed than a 6/3 court.

In fact, no one considers a one justice majority a packed court.. It's republicans that are packing the courts, dems just want to UNpack it.

The Constitution does not address the number of justices, IIRC

 

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10 justices sounds a bit heavy. All we need are 4 to unpack the court and have a one justice majority.

 

That sounds reassuring. I am hoping we won’t end up with having gutted SCOTUS every election cycle.

 

You can call it anything you want, but nearly doubling the size the supreme court in order to achieve a majority is a really bad idea. It is too big already. A couple of voices tend to dominate the court and then they have a partisan vote. It would be better to keep it small enough to have meaningful discussions rather than lectures and then a vote.

And like I said earlier. This is no more than a way to circumvent the Constitution. Daschle invoked the nuclear option. He was warned the democrats would regret that decision.

 

The problem that a large number of justices solves is this situation in which the death of one justice produces an immediate constitutional crisis.

 

Can you cite that Process being cirmumvented?

 

Love it!

But there are some things... Would the likes of McConnell or Trump even care if Democrats shut down the government? If they go the impeachment route, Mitch could simply refuse to bring it up in the Senate until next year. The rest requires Democrats to win the Senate. It's quite possible, but not a slam dunk.

 

Increasing the size of the supreme court with partisan picks in order to achieve a partisan majority.

 

There is no mandate as far as how many SOTUS Justices there can or should be.

Only "tradition" and McConnell has blown that up