Biden to end US support for Saudi-led offensive in Yemen

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And this is his first major mistake, Iran will see this as a sign of weakness and see how far they can push him.
     
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    It is fantastic news.
    The political, military and social results remind me of the Viet-Nam war .
    and to think that Trump supported Saudi, a deeply conservative "by the book" Muslim country while condemning Islam and trying to bar them from entering the USA because he considered them all to be potential terrorists , adds up to a massive fail for his consistency in international relations.
    I suspect what he was really after is high profile bezzie mates who rule like unelected cold hearted potentates and oligarchs. Which BTW always inspired his choice of allies.

    The disgraceful use of advanced US military target practice in Yemen against those who ran out of stones years ago may now stop.
     
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    And Iran will take control of Yemen, using it as a base to destroy the Saudi oilfields and cut off the Suez Canal. Anyone with an atlas can see that this is what is going to happen.

    Here is all you need to know about the Houthis, do you want them in charge;

    Houthi movement - Wikipedia
     
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    I want a proper settlement, not genocide.
     
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    So the answer is to continue supplying weapons to a nation that uses them to kill civilians and combatants alike? There’s a better answer. The US needs to get out of the business of killing poor people half a world away.
     
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    Likely the Pentagon and Biden administration will simply shift those practices to target Venezuela instead of Yemen.
     
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    Hope not. The US needs to get out of the imperialism game.
     
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    I agree, but I don't see it happening any time soon.
     
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    Are you seeing the pattern here yet? Conflict to artificially limit energy production? If not, you're not looking.
     
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    Out of curiosity what does support mean in this context? I don't think we have provided troops and Saudi Arabia doesn't need our money. I don't understand what we are doing but I support not doing it any longer.
     
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    Did you think supporting a genocide is a sign of strength? Its not, and not even Iranians think so.
     
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    So, you look at the Atlas and by doing that you can predict the future? Interesting. Do you realize that Yemen, Saudi Arabia and Iran have been in the same exact place for some time now.

    In charge of Yemen? What do I care? If Saudis don't want them in charge, then its a Saudi problem, not a US problem.
     
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    Those celebrating this event are either ignorant of why the conflict began OR they understand the elements involved and support the Iranian regime. I wonder which piece Obama will move next?
     
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    I could be wrong on this, but I think we have been providing intelligence to the Saudis. Troop movements etc..
    Also our best military hardware. I think F35s were on the shopping list next.
     
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    As long as we were paid for the airplanes then that is fine. Sharing intelligence with allies is fairly common activity. Doesn't sound like anything important. Some people call these things nothing burgers.
     
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    Unless, of course, if you live in Yemen.
     
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    And weapons, and drone strike...
     
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    I don't think selling airplanes and sharing intelligence with an ally is a problem in any way - Yemen or not. From what I can tell the Saudis haven't made much progress with yemen anyway.
     
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    24 million people, or nearly 80 percent of the entire population are in need of humanitarian help due to the situation we have helped create there. You can call it a nothing burger if you wish, but I find it absurd that we give Saudis the weapons to kill Yemenis, and then we give Yemen $630 million in foreign aid (that's what Trump gave then last year alone). Putting America first???? Give me a break.

    Its also ironic that both US and Iran are being said to be complicit in war crimes in Yemen
     
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    The Saudis don't like to get dirty.
    So it's just bomb and starve, bomb and starve.
     
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    Can anybody who says that the Saudi are an ally list the conflict in which they actually provided troops in a meaningful number compared to your historical real allies like Canada, UK, Australia...
     
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    I don't think ANY sane, even semi-moral human being WANTS to create suffering needlessly. You speak as though SA, with our help or maybe even encouragement, just decided out of the blue to begin slaughtering Yemenis. That conflict is exactly like every other conflict in that region. It's team sports between Sunni and Shia. Yemen's Houthis are the same flavor of dear old Mo's legacy to the planet while the Saudis have created an even more aggressive form of the Sunni branch. The Houthis would have stopped and made an accommodation long ago had they not been freely supplied with weapons, training, and intel from the IRGC. It's just another proxy war Iran is so good at waging. Once Joe bends over backward for the mullahs and the cash begins to flow I think there's a very real chance that Israel may move while they still have a window of time to deal with a non-nuclear Iran. Somehow, I don't think the world will be stressing over Yemen when that party gets going.
     
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    I've never seen that work in the history of warfare. Bomb and starve is fine as a preparation for the insertion of troops but the war will never finish until the troops are inserted. If we have been supporting them I would suspect they should fine another supporter with a stronger grasp of military strategy.
     
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    Foreign aid should be illegal until the US has paid its debts.
     
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