Biden to end US support for Saudi-led offensive in Yemen

Yep. Same problem.

 

The Congress actually ordered to stop arms sales to SA after they murdered and dismembered Jamal Khashoggi in the Saudi embassy in Turkey. Trump vetoed it and continued to partner with them.

 

They would, but that's not limited to one arena. They make a lot of money off of arming insurgencies, fighting short term wars, and through nation building. None of that requires staying in one location for very long.

Granted, they are keen on staying in Afghanistan and Iraq, it would seem. They also want to stay in Syria.

 

Khashoggi wasn't exactly an advocate of free speech. He just happened to support Islamists that were opposed to the Saudis. He reaped what he sowed.

 

Look at it historically. Ever since the end of WW2, we've been in a new foreign conflict every few years.

 

If there is a new conflict, it will have nothing to do with us stopping the support against Yemen. We could have a new conflict (or more than one) with, or without Yemen,

 

I think we are running out of places in which to conflict .. Middle East is used up - so agree that it won't be Yemen or anywhere in the ME.
Iraq wants us out - and continues to draw closer to Iran .. China/Russia and probably the EU but not the US will be rebuilding Iran, Syria, Iraq, Yemen We will be watching on the sideline .. Zero return on investment for the 10 Trillion spent since 2001 - La War in Iraq - "War on Terror"

Where is the next target .. Venezuela ? - somewhere in Africa - we going to manufacture some civil war in Cuba ? Hard to find anything

We kind of need to fit the Terrorism label onto the package - so Cuba/Venezuela are out .. Some of the Spawn of El Saud have arisen in Africa - Boko Haraam - Al Shabaab .- How to spin chasing down a few African Terrorists into a big war seems difficult though - not much to war against in these nations. "The War in Uganda" just doesn't rouse much notice or would seem to required much resources . send over a few Seal Teams ... seems more like a covert op - not something we need to engage the heavy artillery .. sans perhaps a gunship or two.

 

On the surface, probably not. We have the ability to maintain involvement in multiple conflicts due to our massive military and a lack of concern about public debt.

Given Biden's history on interventionist policy, I don't see distancing ourselves from Yemen as a precursor to less interventionism, however. Trump got a lot of flack for trying to get us out of many conflicts, so the defense industry elites that wanted Biden in office aren't exactly going to let him go down the same path.

 

Hell no, the Houthis motto is death to America, death to Israel, how could those opposing them not be the good guys?

 

Because they would now have the ability to do both and wreck the global economy.

 

Glad you agree.

 

I REALLY doubt it.

 

Yes and the Kuwaitis were damn happy to be liberated.

 

What genocide? No one is talking about exterminating the Houthis, anyone would have to be incredibly stupid to believe their propaganda.

 

You mean the US spreading freedom and democracy?

 

Actually I'm British and you'll always have civilian deaths, especially as terrorists hide behind the civilian population.

 

And how right he was, the murder of one man is not more important than a vital strategic relationship. Congress knew this and just let Trump take the blame.

 

Oh, they have a motto, and that's a good reason to be at war with them. Maybe they say "death to America" because we rain death on them. You know......just.....maybe.

They don't have to close both, they just have to close the Straits of Hormuz, which is something they could have done for decades, but they know there is no way they could hold it closed for more than a day or so.

So, you are British and want the US to fight your wars for you. How convenient.

Write to your queen.

 

You know I don't, but that's half the fun.

 

Didn't work all that great now did it?

 

No one said the Houthi's were "good guys" .. but - relative to the invaders El Saud/Al Qaeda - aided by the US and others - the Houthi's are indeed the good guys.

Why would the freedom fighters sin Yemen not have the motto "Death to our enemies" ? Do we not do the same ?

Why are you so in love with El Saud - and imposition Strict Sharia Theocracy - Saudi Style - on Yemen

 

No.

Actually, Houthis' slogan is "Allah is Greater, Death to America, Death to Israel, Curse on the Jews, Victory to Islam". It was adopted in 2003, after the invasion of Iraq by Bush, 12 years before the start of the current war with the Arab coalition.

Houthis' kingdom in northern Yemen lasted until 1962, when an Egyptian led Soviet engineered military coup overthrew the king and established a Russian-friendly government at Sanaa. Ironically, the Saudis and Israel backed the Houthis then. I wonder why Houthis don't chant "death to Egypt, death to Russia".

Houthis have been fighting for control of Yemen for a millennium.

Iran is trying to turn the Shia crescent into a united pro-Iran Shia land bridge, controlled by Iran through proxies. Then they can close straits and disrupt global trade.

How's that a war for UK?

Are you saying that foreigners shouldn't be allowed to exercise their right to free speech? Foreigners shouldn't be allowed to have opinions about US foreign affairs? Seriously?

 

Why do you think al Qaeda invaded Yemen? Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) have been there for decades, in fact one of their most revered preachers - Anwar al Awlaki - was Yemeni. Why do you think the members of al Qaeda in Yemen are not Yemenis themselves?

Except that their slogan, written on their flag, is actually "Allah is Greater, Death to America, Death to Israel, Curse on the Jews, Victory to Islam", and was adopted in 2003, 12 years before the start of the current conflict.

Seeing how Egypt and the USSR destroyed the Houthi kingdom in 1962, and Egypt is now a member of the Arab coalition against Houthis, why didn't the Houthis include "death to Egypt, death to Russia" in their slogan? Odd, that.

Do you seriously think that the Houthis are fighting for human rights and democracy?

 

Trying to? They have been in position to close the Straits of Hormus since the beginning of time. Why haven't they?

Answer: Because it would not be tolerated. Whatever happens in Yemen wont change anything.

 

Do you believe fighting against Iran alone would be the same as fighting against Iran and several pro-Iran countries across Asia?