Biden to end US support for Saudi-led offensive in Yemen

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did not say Al Qaeda invaded Yemen .. El Saud invaded .. and yes .. we have been droning Al Qaeda in Yemen for a long time.

    What does this have to do with the fact that we are on the Same side as Al Qaeda in the conflict in Yemen .. them and the invader - Brother El Saud ..
    Can you blame them ?

    Who told you that .. that would be as ridiculous as stating that the US was in Yemen fighting for human rights and democracy.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Straits of Hormuz is where it has always been, so there is no point in trying to re-open it some other Asian country.
     
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    1. Or the other way around? They started this.

    2. They could close both and have massive impact, it's not just missiles, they could sew mines as they did during the tanker wars in the 80s.

    3. Britain backs the anti-Houthi forces too.
     
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    What invaders? Backing the anti-Houthi forces in Yemen? How are the US and Israel their enemies? What I want for Yemen is a free and democratic society and that's never going to happen with the Houthis/Iran in charge.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you not realize that Saudi Arabia was fighting a war in Yemen and thus are the invaders ?

    and what does you wanting a free and democratic society have to do with this. Do you think that your beloved El Saud - with their proxy Al Qaeda Forces .. were trying to bring "Freedom and Democracy" to Yemen ?

    Is this what you are suggesting Mate ?
     
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    They can't even close one, so how are they going to close both?

    How many times do I have to say it: They have had decades to close the Straits of Hormuz, but have not done so for the obvious reasons, and whatever happens in Yemen wont change it.
     
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    The Saudis are backing the anti-Houthi elements in Yemen, doesn't make them invaders. I think the House of Saud is infinitely preferable to the Iranian theocratic dictatorship.
     
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    They haven't yet, they have the potential to do both with anti-shipping missile batteries mines or even artillery, they don't have to cut them off forever, just to disrupt it would cause chaos.
     
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    The Saudi's are dropping bombs on Houthi Civilians .. so yes this does make them invaders. You seriously have no clue about the conflict in Yemen ..

    Iran is a pinnacle of Freedom and Democracy compared to El Saud .. again you have no clue what you are talking about - so desperate to apologize for the war crimes and crimes against humanity by your beloved El Saud and its Al Qaeda Spawn.
     
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    The Saudis are fighting Houthi rebels who use civilians as a human shield. You have no clue of reality. Iran is a nightmare theocratic dictatorship which sponsors terrorism worldwide, El Saud are far from perfect but are angels in comparison.
     
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    El Saud is much worse - and by far the bigger State Sponsor of Terror. Your problem with your assessment do not classify Al Qaeda and ISIS and other related Islamist Jihadist spawn as terrorists.

    Confused you have become - down the dark path you have wandered.
     
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    I sure do class AQ/ISIS as terrorist organisations, you hatred of the Saudis just means you heap them all together. Come, admit it, the Houthis are the bad guys and it's right to stomp on them.
     
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    LOL .. Biden Just took the Houthi's off the Terrorism List .. seems Obama was wrong .. siding with El Saud and Al Qaeda - now being implicated in complicity to war Crimes / crimes against humanity .. acts committed by your Beloved El Saud.

    Sad entry in the Obama History book - big black mark. Just wait until they get to Syria .. Obama was way more involved with arming and supporting the Islamic State than what was done in Syria ..

    Dirty Deeds ...
     
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    Yes and that was a huge mistake on his part, the Iranians will perceive this as blatant weakness.
     
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    If you think enabling a country to kill civilians is perceived as a sign of strength, then we have a very different idea of what "strength" means.
     
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    It means not buying the Houth propaganda that the anti-Houthi forces movement only kill civilians when in fact they're against the Houthis military forces and civilians occasionally get killed in the crossfire.
     
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    How about not giving a rip about what the Houthis say or don't say, and stop firing in the first place?
     
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    Because THEY won't?
     
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    Well, they are not firing at us, so why should we give a rip? Do we have to be involved in every civil war out there?
     
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    Yes, yes of course! Stand by your allies and secure the oil supplies and strategic waterways that fuel the world economy and allow Western civilization to flourish. The ideals of isolationism are naive, nonsensical and frankly risible. This is the real world
     
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    Yemen has lots of Shia Muslims and the US has no place in to dictate the will of those people to side with other Shia Muslims.

    So far the US and Saudi used Yemen to impoverish those civilians and refuse enough humanitarian aid causing people to die from a famine by the 10,000's.
    So the US goes down in history for aiding a genocide against the Shia for the sake of Saudi oil.
    Bravo.

    Saudi human values are abysmal for their own people, which leaves nothing to the imagination of what they want to do with others.
    And the US supports it for the sake of cheap oil.
    It's good that Biden cuts those ties and takes the high road.
     
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    True but the Houthis have no right to force their beliefs on others. What genocide? Come on, what? The Houthis started the war and reap the consequences. Saudis aren't great but compared to Iran? Biden seems to be going down a path of cowardice, this has been the worst of his policies so far.
     
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    If you think its a display of bravery to involve yourself in a 3rd world country civil war, then I suggest you write to your queen about getting the UK involved in it. The US has nothing to gain from it.
     
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    No buts.... the US and the Saudi's have no place to dictate the will of those people if they want to side with other Shia Muslims, and they currently are,... and you support that oppression.

    The US and Saudi's actually started the oppression first as thug neo-colonial powers.
    And there are plenty of reports how many million people suffer from acute malnourishments and how many died. The estimation from dying from starvation is 50.000 children in 2017... and the war never stopped.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famin...n in,hospitals to function without generators.

    Those people need oil to use generators to pump up water for drinking and for the crops to eat and work the land.
    The US and Saudi block that on purpose causing a genocide among the civilian population.
    Your idea that civilians must face those consequences is utterly sickeningly way of you justifying that the US are in their right to be baby killers.
    The US and Saudi's have no such right, and simply got blood on their hands.
    Biden is brave enough to put an end to it.
     
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    The Biden administration is already knee deep in entangled military diplomacy.

    Creating instability is a hallmark of Democrat run foreign affairs.
     

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