Rockets Fired Between Gaza and Tel Aviv

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    We all know that the Jew state kills more, and has also ethnically cleansed +700,000 civilian Arabs who get killed if they attempt to return to their own properties.
    So both sides do not bleed equally at all.
     
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    Notme you are so deep into your hard on for Jews I will let others respond. Been there done that. Screaming out Allah Akbar won't make Jew baby killers disappear. Neither will shooting missiles at them.
     
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    I don't accept your narrative. In any event, there will be no turning back the clock to pre-1967 borders.
    Palestine was partitioned by the UN so obviously some people would be removed from their homes. What's happened after 1967, especially in Jerusalem, is another matter.
     
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    Do you see now why the U.S. makes a difference? Jewish population by country.

    upload_2021-5-17_19-31-39.png

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country
    More than 70% of Israeli Jews were born in Israel.
    Palestinians have claims in the West Bank, nowhere else.
    Fiction.

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    https://i1.wp.com/jewishvoiceforpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/1947-UN-Partition-Plan-1949-Armistice-Comparison.png?fit=367%2C1029&ssl=1
    The Arabs screwed up.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War

    They should have accepted the UN plsn.
     
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    Offensive with purpose.
     
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    both sides would love to commit genocide on the other if they could get away with it

    not sure how this ever ends
     
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    Yeah, I see your problem. You missed the a key statement at the beginning out the Demographists of the Palestinian State. That statement is: "cf. Israel: Jewish 74%, Arab 21%, other 5%". As I stated 74% of the population of Israel is Jews. Arabs (aka. so-called Palestinians) make up only 21%, and others make up 5%. I am sure that even you will agree that 74% is far larger the 26%. If not, then I really can't help you. Both cited websites say the same thing. Jews make up the majority of the population of Israel. So, they will not be a minority in their own country as you claimed. To quote Hillary Clinton, "Moving on!!"
     
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    Well here is the thing - Israel CAN commit genocide if it wants, but DOESN'T.
    The Arabs WANT to commit genocide, but CAN'T.
     
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    Sure. But so far you're not pointing at where the narrator goes wrong. You can't punch in a hole how the colonial west deliberately gerrymandered the country for the sake of their Jews to immigrate to. Nor can you dispute that the right of self determination was uphold. The Arab countries specifically noted this, and the thug western colonial powers did not care at all. And than the Jews started ethnic cleansing Arab civilians on a massive scale. If you ask how did it become to this... that's it.

    Your idea that "obviously some people would be removed".... is utter nonsense. As far as I recall the partition plan from the UN never suggested that an Arab would not be allowed to stay. The idea that the UN would support ethnic cleansing, openly, is just weird.
     
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    This has nothing to do with how easy it is for lots of Israeli Jews to go back where they came from.

    Of which loads can claim the citizenships of their parents. We all know millions of Jews just recently immigrated to Israel.

    700,000 Arabs who got ethnically cleansed out of Israel got their real estate confiscated.
    Real estate rights are able to be inherited. You know, the thing how Jews are claiming properties in East-Jerusalem now...

    I sourced differently and your picture doesn't dispute this one bit in what the % of Arabs was in what they UN planned out to be Israel.

    Nothing even suggest that Jews are in their rights to ethnically cleanse +700,000 Arab civilians.
     
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    whining on purpose when you can't stand a country is being mocked of it's racist practices.
     
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    If people say,or they are told by their local Imam, not to stay in their house for one day
    under Jewish occupation - I take that not as 'ethnic cleansing' but as stupidity, and that's
    what the Arabs who remained thought.
    But half a million Jews WERE ethnically cleansed from Middle East nations after 1948.
    clethnic cleansing of jews from the arab world.gif
     
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    Once again, your meme is completely irrelevant to what has been done to Palestinians. Do you blame all Christians for what Hitler did?

    Many of those Palestinians that stayed were massacred
     
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    no, they can't, if they did, they could no longer claim victim status for the genocide against them by Germany, as then they would be the ones committing genocide

    it's a complicated world, and it's a situation over there that I know of no real solutions other than the passing of time
     
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    No they were not, to maybe a couple.

    Take for instance Algeria. The French made the Jews French citizens, but not the Arabs. The French Jews with the other French fought against the Arabs when they wanted be independent country. The Arabs won, and all the French citizens went back to their own country where they belong: France. No such thing of ethnic cleansing there. While in Iraq, the Jews bombed their fellow Jews to make them flee the country. Jews were caught there doing it, while Jews themselves were banned from leaving. Eventually Iraq lifted the ban, and so the Israel arranged the flights out of the country (Operation Ezra and Nehemiah). Egyptian Jews also bombed in Egypt... and that got connected all the way to the Israeli government. It's a thing. The Jews from Yemen also got air lifted out by Israel (Operation On Wings of Eagles). Israel did the same thing with Morocco ... where Israel even PAID 100 bucks per Jew! (Operation Yachin)

    Just stupid to call this ethnic cleansing.
    All you got is a stupid picutre from some hate site.


    All this is, is a Zionistic lie that it is justified that the Jew ethnic cleansed Arabs, since they ethnically cleansed Jews.
    There is no such justification possible. And the Arabs didn't even ethnically cleanse.


    So sorry to pop that bubble.
     
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    Problem: the most iconic building on Jerusalem's sky-line is the golden "Dome of the Rock" (one of the earliest examples of Islamic architecture built c 630 AD, after the Muslim conquest of much of the Byzantine empire), and right next to it is the Al Aqsa mosque which is the 3rd most holy site in Islam....
     
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    PA reconsiders recognition of Israel | Conflict News | Al Jazeera

    6 Mar 2018
    "The Ramallah-based Palestinian Authority (PA) is considering the “suspension” of its recognition of Israel, a senior Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) official said Tuesday.

    “There is no alternative for the Palestinians but to suspend their recognition of Israel,” Saeb Erekat, a member of the PLO’s influential Executive Committee, said in a statement. "
     
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    Arabs that stayed today are called Israeli Arabs. They enjoy one of the highest standards
    of living in the Middle East, and by a country mile, the most democracy.
     
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    I certainly agree the creator of the universe (out of nothing-ness) must be the source of pure love consciousness in an otherwise inanimate E=mc.c universe.

    So God could NOT have uttered those words that Samuel claimed God did. Just shows the prophets were given to talking out of their backsides from time to time.

    My conclusion, God wants our 'awareness', and though God doesn't actually intervene in this world, this 'awareness' can be a source of strength for those who seek it.


    Well yes; and now -after WW2 and the beginning of the age of MAD - it's time to recognize the spirit of God in the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and institute a UNSC which is capable of defending it (by abolishing the veto).

    Yes, a house divided will fall. But an even greater sacrilege was perpetrated in the Hagia Sophia over 2 centuries earlier (in 1204), by so called Christians......Western thugs who obviously knew nothing about Christ, much less God.

    As you know I don't think God intervenes in our world (see my note on this, above).

    Ah..all that priceless Christian art in Germany destroyed by the 'brave' Bomber Command....
     
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    That can partly be put down to the evil effects of British and American imperialism, and the effects of the Cold War: eg in the CIA-backed overthrow of the first nascent secular social democracy in Iran in 1953; Western misleading of Nasser in the Suez conflict in 1956; and of course the actual destruction of much of the ME by the US since then, alongside its powerful support for Israel.
     
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    Israeli civilians have always been Palestinian targets. What goes around comes around. Yes, the Palestinians had constrained choices; that is the price constant defeats. Nonetheless, their position today would be better had they not abandoned Oslo.
     
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    The Assassination of Yitzhak Rabin | The New Yorker

    "Yet the killing of Yitzhak Rabin, the Israeli Prime Minister, in 1995, by Yigal Amir, an Israeli extremist, bids to be one of history’s most effective political murders. Two years earlier, Rabin, setting aside a lifetime of enmity, appeared on the White House lawn with Yasir Arafat, the leader of the Palestine Liberation Organization and a former terrorist, to agree to a framework for limited Palestinian self-rule in the occupied territories; the next year, somewhat less painfully, he returned to the White House, with Jordan’s King Hussein, to officially end a forty-six-year state of war. Within months of Rabin’s death, Benjamin Netanyahu was the new Prime Minister and the prospects for a wider-ranging peace in the Middle East, which had seemed in Rabin’s grasp, were dead, too. Twenty years later, Netanyahu is into his fourth term, and the kind of peace that Rabin envisaged seems more distant than ever.'

    The Palestinians "abandoned" Oslo? I don't think so....
     
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    Have you anything to say about Islamic imperialism? Or Turkish Ottoman imperialism?
    The Middle East hasn't been totally destroyed - you can go to a place that was full of
    malaria swamps and grinding poverty and see today it's full of orange groves and olives,
    modern cities, sweeping freeways, airports and the like. It's Israel.

    Maybe one day the Arab nations around it will emulate what the Jews have been able
    to do since going home to Israel.
     
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    That is not an "always" it became a real thing when the Jews ethnically cleansed the Palestinians on a very large scale.

    What choice? Nobody asked them. They right for self determination got raped. We've discussed this, yet you go on with these falsehoods.

    Ahh... civilians get to earn being victims of ethnic cleansing. That is a repeating your low.

    The Jews walked out. They did not commit to the Oslo accords. We're all still waiting for the Jews to get their IDF out of the WB and dissolve their administration that among things arranged the expansion of the settlements. The Palestinians committed by ending their first intifada. The Jews showed not to comply with what they agreed upon in the past, and because of that they caused to 2nd intifada. Something changed when a Jew massacred the leader of Israel who was committed to comply with the Oslo accords. True story.
     
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    Many of those Palestinians that stayed were massacred, you can refer to them as massacred "Israeli Arabs" if you like, either way, they were massacred
     

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