How would you solve the problems of Black society?

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How would you solve the problems of black society?

  1. More money to address inequality?

    3 vote(s)
    10.3%
  2. Legal reform to advance affirmative action?

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Education and propaganda to reform black cultural attitudes?.

    8 vote(s)
    27.6%
  4. Massive law enforcement crackdown

    11 vote(s)
    37.9%
  5. Just let time do the work.

    7 vote(s)
    24.1%
  1. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    You might start by getting an elementary education about black society.
     
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  2. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Other things "natural" to all races is greed, lust, envy, gluttony, sloth.....and other worldly weaknesses like racism. That does not mean they should be tolerated.
     
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  3. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    What a bizarre statement. What kind of clique do you live in where others believe that? (Just for anthropological purposes)
     
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  4. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    Such as?

    Then why is it so prevalent? Why are black people to massively overrepresented in violent crime figures? Why whenever there is a police incident does black public opinion side with the criminal and not the officers?
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    I put in time. Once all the swings and roundabouts and see-saws have settled.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    The question was, what social group do you belong to that has the bizarre belief that some people believe black violent crime is socially acceptable?
     
  7. Reasonablerob

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    I'm Samoan. Now reply to my question?
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    So, the group you claim that has the irrational belief that some people believe black violent crime is socially acceptable are Samoans? I think other Samoans would consider that an insult.

    Your questions. Crime, especially violent crime is associated with low income, densely populated areas. 45% of African Americans live below middle class and 20% live in poverty. They live in largely segregated urban areas. Whites have a 9% poverty rate, are more rural and they have a much higher crime rate than the white middle class. Everyone in the US can get a gun if they want one.

    Many people besides Blacks do not feel a law breaker should get the death penalty if the lawbreaker was not threatening a life.
     
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    And yet still African Americans are disproportionally involved in violent crime even when you take poverty into account, poor whites and other races do not commit the same level.
    I don't understand your final sentence, what are you referring to?
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    So we can agree, all races can be racist, even Samoans.

    55% of African American are middle class and above. They cause no more crime than their economic peers. So being "Black" does not cause crime. I don't know about Samoa, but the US crime rate is slightly less than "white" Ireland, what is different is violent crime. In the US anyone can get a gun. There has grown a gun culture in urban areas that mirrors the rest of the country, but in the urban areas guns are more likely to be used because of increased criminal activity.

    I answered your right skewed question, why does black public opinion side with the criminal and not the officers? I am sorry you don't understand the answer.
     
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    Yes....number three of all the list.
     
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    That's contradictory?
     
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    Considering the black people do not need rescuing they need a way out of poverty. The majority of crime committed is because of people that are poor, unless you are Trump. Take them out of the inner cities and introduce them to areas where a standard of living can be achieved after training, or convert the inner cities into industrialized areas for jobs, train them for all fields of business activity and help them start businesses.
     
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    And yet those counties with the strictest gun laws (Chicago and New York) suffer some of the most black on black gun crime. I'm not sure where you get your figures from in regard to Ireland, although they're much more than the rest of the British Isles?

    List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia
     
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    IMO, effective "massive law enforcement" would require the nullification of all laws denying black Americans Constitutional carry.
     
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    There are no laws denying black Americans Constitutional carry. What have you been smoking or who have you been listening to?
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    I was comparing US vs Ireland crime level, not homicide level.
    "Counties" with the strictest gun laws do not have the most black on black gun crime. NYC had 3.6 per 100k homicides lower than the national average of 5. Chicago was middling in cities, there were many much higher per capita in gun liberal law states. See if you can find a pattern here . BTW Chicago is 20 minutes away from a state with liberal gun laws.
     
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    There are many laws that do just that.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sullivan_Act
     
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    Odd, poor black in other countries don’t seem to have such crime problems any more than white people.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Is that because they are not living with the legacy of institutional racism since abolition?
     
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    Or that your argument is nothing more than apologetics, pandering isn't helping.
     
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    Good point. Only in the US is the same racist institution that sustained slavery, the DP, that has been dedicated to reducing black Americans to a state of powerless dependency that existed under slavery.
     
  23. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    So you disagree with Buri that institutional racism is real and not "nothing more than apologetics, pandering"? You right-wingers need to get together and get your stories straight.
     
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    Why should we have to do that? Conformity of thought is not a conservative value.
     
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    I guess it's because of the absence of logical, fact based conclusions.
     
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