How would you solve the problems of Black society?

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How would you solve the problems of black society?

  1. More money to address inequality?

    3 vote(s)
    10.3%
  2. Legal reform to advance affirmative action?

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Education and propaganda to reform black cultural attitudes?.

    8 vote(s)
    27.6%
  4. Massive law enforcement crackdown

    11 vote(s)
    37.9%
  5. Just let time do the work.

    7 vote(s)
    24.1%
  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    It's always on the minority to adapt to the majority, if survival is their goal. How do you think non-white Americans superseded white Americans in wealth in recent years? Not by lying down and crying.
     
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    Because that's what causes all the trouble!

    It's never about skin colour, in the 21stC.
     
  3. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    So you think if the gay community was continued to be repressed, looked down upon and discriminated against they would stop the self harming, addictions and suicides?
    You seem to have no grasp of human psychology.
    What "trouble" is caused by having a different ethnicity than your neighbor?
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    1) Once again, it's on the minority to adapt to the majority. That's survival. The buck stops there. You're not special .. play by the rules of get out of the way and let someone who's prepared to, take your spot. If you think you're special and different but live in a society which relies on conformity for survival (you know, like all social mammals), you'd better rethink your position. If you don't, you'll find yourself with real reason to self-harm etc. Like loss of community and all the support and security that goes with it. And on the way to your misery, you will have endangered your community via the loss of your focus and efforts.

    2) I never mentioned ethnicity. Not once.
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    I guess you are not current. Critical race theory is about hating white people.

    I'm not the one who thinks blacks are too dumb to have an ID.
     
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    Not only have minorities superseded whites economically in recent years as Crank said they are blowing white people away. While white income has been static income for Asian and Mideastern Americans has exploded.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

    White family income in 2015(Read the link!) was $66,000.
    Pakistani and Iranian income was $87,000!

    Wait a second, aren't Pakistani and Iranian immigrants oppressed minorities? How do they make 32% more? Why do Indian immigrants make twice what whites do? How does that compute?

    Why do Nigerian and Ghanaian immigrants now making more than whites?

    What are these people doing right that black Americans are not?

    So it is not about what color you are or what ethnicity you are. It is about intelligence, work ethic and culture!
     
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    If people want to ride the train to ignorantville be my guest. I cannot stop you.

    Hating whitey is a major theme of the progressive left right now and it oddly comes at a time when whites are economically stagnant and politically in decline. By design!

    https://nypost.com/2021/06/05/nyc-shrink-who-imagined-shooting-white-people-slammed-online/

    Here is a woke NYC psychiatrist who considers white people psychopathic and has fantasies of murdering them.
     
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    Any of you watch the film Ghandi? Early on he is a young attorney traveling to south Africa where he will live. He is told to get his black ass out of first class! When he refuses he is tossed off the train.

    He tells them he is an attorney who just passed the bar in London. they accuse him of lying. "There are no colored attorneys in south Africa."


    Why does this matter? These people, Indian immigrants who in apartheid South Africa were considered black or colored have the highest household incomes of any ethnic group in the USA!!!!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

    Indian Americans-$126,000
    White Americans-$66,0000

    So as a white American do I have the right to hate Indian Americans? Call them privileged? Accuse them of stealing?

    It is obvious from this link I'll paste it again, that color of skin has not one damn thing to do with economic success in this country.

    The ideology of progressives, Libocrats fascists whatever you call them.(They are fascists) That ideology is a lie!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income
     
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    Then families are not targeted?
    If you think so. How are they?
     
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    1) So gays need to quit being gay. Problem solved. Society doesn't need to change to be more inclusive. The rules never need to change.
    And you represent the far left?
    2) No I was writing about ethnicity and you commented on it....it "causes trouble".
     
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    1) Never mentioned gay people - you're on your own there. And society is only ever going to be useful to its people when its people live as though society matters. That means conformity. When everyone goes their own way, you don't have a society.

    2) Not once. I've talked ONLY about culture and about race.
     
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    The fact that they don't even acknowledge this stuff (and most don't), tells you so much. They crave brown inferiority .. so much so that they can't even process the idea that brown people are blowing white people out of the water. They just pretend it isn't happening. They NEED to believe that white folk are still on top.
     
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    Amazing to me that all this CRT and white hate comes at a time when white people are declining in economic dominance. Obviously declining in numbers and so very few white people even identify themselves racially any longer.

    I have never identified as white. I don't have white pride.

    Many of the cultural and behavior problems that cause poverty in other communities are causing economic damage to white families. Laziness, dependency and entitlement. Fatherless families. It's 2X as bad in the black community but those are the reasons why immigrants are doing much better.
     
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    "It is considered progressive and educated for libos to hate white people."

    Who is feeding you that nonsense?

    and there you go using that word again "libotard" - adding the "o" to avoid the sites filter.... sad
     
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    Yeah it would make more sense if this had popped out in the 1950's, when there were "structural racism" that you could point to, but it's beyond bizarre that it's popped up a generation after the civil rights movement.
     
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    I do agree here, the white racists and the black racists are trying to take advantage of the fact the all Americans are being hurt by the mega corps

    they both want to blame their issues on race... while the real issue is nothing to do with race
     
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    Mass media has a way of distorting, I think, the big picture, by amplifying and repeating (endlessly) isolated cases of disparate outcomes, assuming racism is the reason, and claiming that they are representative of some trend. They really aren't. Or at least we can't be sure. One case of excessive police force in Wisconsin, followed 6 weeks later by "yet another one" in Atlanta or St. Louis, isn't a pattern. It just is made to look like one to "sell newspapers" or, in today's world, clicks. I still don't know that Derek Chauvin killed George Floyd because of racism, even if I do believe the state proved manslaughter (homicide by recklessness). Even if it was racism, how many cases like that have happened? As a percentage of the total number of police encounters? This isn't South Africa in the 1950's.

    Whatever problems we do have are not the result of state sanctioned structural racism.
     
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    That may be so....but "Conformity" is definitely "a conservative value."
    and the only one it seems.
    No "thought" required...as a matter of fact, it is frowned upon.
     
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    Nope, you responded to my comments about gays and ethnicity and now you are denying it? You can reread what you wrote if you don't remember, if you do remember, your honesty is at stake.
     
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    If you were really interested in Conservative values you could read about them here:

    https://isi.org/intercollegiate-review/6-core-beliefs-of-conservatism/

    But of course you aren't. So continue with your mindless conservative bashing.
     
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    The Intercollegiate Studies Institute (ISI) is a nonprofit educational organization that promotes conservative thought on college campuses.[1][2] It lists the following six as its core beliefs: limited government, individual liberty, personal responsibility, the rule of law, free-market economics, and traditional Judeo-Christian values.[3]

    A few out of your six "core beliefs" seem to have been compromised by the GOP.
    I've underlined them above....
    Thank you!
    "Mindless" is actually a compliment these days.
     
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    But isn't it equally possible that because "structural racism" was frowned upon "after the civil rights movement"...
    that racism in general was hidden from view...practiced when they think nobody will notice....
    and is still going on today.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

    Is America failing black Americans or are black Americans failing America? I think it is the other way around. Haiti is the poorest country in our hemisphere. Why are immigrants able to come here from Haiti and do much better than American blacks?

    Unlike many African immigrants they also have to learn English.

    African American household income-$43,863
    Haitian household income-$57,451

    Other black immigrant groups:
    Ghanaian-69.021
    Nigerian-$68,658
    West Indian-$65,258
    Baradians-$64,588
    Trinidad-$62,120
    Jamaican-$62,044
    Kenyans-$72,000(From this link)
    https://www.awmagazine.org/how-many-kenyans-live-in-america-us-census-bureau-has-latest-count/

    A huge disparity. Black immigrant privilege?

    You can take that link and study it without even looking at white people. Compare how blacks are doing to Laotians. Vietnamese, people from Egypt. Blacks are failing by comparison!
     
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    Structural racism like this?

    No data on Kenyan immigrants from my original link so I found some data on another one.
    https://www.awmagazine.org/how-many-kenyans-live-in-america-us-census-bureau-has-latest-count/

    Average household income $72,133
    Average home values $288,000

    You mean like that? Black Kenyans making more money than white people?

    Kenyan privilege?

    Income in Kenya-$7051
    Income in America-$72,133

    Same people!

    This is the real America. Not those lies that the democrats tell every day. The truth is that people come here from any corner of the world speaking any language or accent and having any skin hue and succeed!

    That is the truth. BLM, CRT these are racist lies! An entire ideology based on lies.
     
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    What motivation does the democrat party have to make black lives better? If black Americans were like Nigerian or Kenyan immigrants would we have this thread now? Would BLM exist? Black Nigerians and Kenyans do not need Joy Behar or Joe Biden to speak for them.

    Black failure drives the entire Marxist ideology of the democrat party. If black Americans were like Ghanaian or Haitian immigrants racists like Ibram X. Kendi would be ignored instead of winning awards.

    As long as black America is poor and failing they will always be a 90% voting block for the democrats. Why would they ever want that to change?
     
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