Do you support reparations for blacks?

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Do you support reparations for blacks?

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    uh if blacks had not sold other blacks into slavery, there would not have been an Atlantic Slave trade
     
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    It would totally depend on how it was done......

    I believe that it could be done very well but......

    the left wing administrations in both Canada as well as the USA at this time would make a total mess out of it.

    I am a supporter of an Unconditional Basic Minimum Income financed in the same manner as was done by President Abraham Lincoln that was
    attempted again by J.F.K.....
    but I know that the political left is sold out to BigBanking so they would never support doing this in a way that would set the stage for us to realize that the deficit and the national debt is significantly a practical joke being played on Americans and Canadians.


    An Unconditional but Taxable Basic Minimum Income financed in the manner that President Lincoln financed the Civil War... would set in motion a real estate boom.....

    especially on land outside of cities by thirty to a hundred miles.

    Once the truth about what 5G does to the human body and mind is understood.....
    people from all ethnic backgrounds will want to get out of the major cities.

    Could a real estate boom plus better Fed policy pay off USA national debt?




    http://www.cidpusa.org/lincoln_JFK.htm

     
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  3. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    Africans were not responsible for the construction of the concentration camps in America that were the fuel for America's industrial Revolution. That lies solely on the shoulders of your founding fathers.
     
  4. conservaliberal

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    Concentration camps? Where were those? Are you saying that there were government-run concentration camps, and that freed Negro slaves were imprisoned in them? Please provide details, because this is a totally new story I'd never heard of before.
     
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    Esau Well-Known Member

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    You mean to tell me that you were not aware that Americans held millions of so called black ppl in concentration camps for over a century?!

    Just wow. Serious question, is history on the school curriculum in USA?
     
  6. Death

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    No, for the exact same reason I do not support this thread. Simple enough answer?
     
  7. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The thing is, laws/traditions/customs or whatever anyone wants to label them change throughout history. And what the problem is, everyone in the past will fail against today's laws/traditions/customs. In the future, we today will fail laws/traditions/customs of the future.

    When slavery happened, it happened within those laws/traditions/customs at that time because that was the laws/traditions/customs at that time. The Romans used to bugger young boys, we don't practice that and it's illegal. Woman vote, they were never allowed to.

    So the past is the past and just because the past fails today's laws/traditions/customs, then we shouldn't be held to account. To think otherwise, is bizarre.
     
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  8. Esau

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    unfortunately that is not how the world works. otherwise germany wouldnt still be paying out to relatives of holocaust survivors for laws that germany practiced then but not today.
     
  9. Turtledude

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    OH THE DRAMA-not only was reply IRRELEVANT to my comment, it has NOTHING to do with known reality. But to keep you happy, I will quote a great line from Joe Strummer

    The old man spoke up in a bar
    Said "I never been in prison
    A lifetime serving one machine
    Is ten times worse than prison"
     
  10. Esau

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    you said that black americans dont deserve reparations because blacks sold blacks. ireplied that blacks selling blacks in africa has nothing to do with reparations in america for black folk that were put in concentration camps for hundreds of years by americas founding fathers.

    spoken like a true right winger

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    why should people who never put anyone else in concentration camps (which is drama llama bullshit in the USA) have to pay anything to others who never were in your mythical camps. I owe you or anyone like you nothing at all. and American whites died by the thousands freeing blacks and have paid trillions in taxes supporting many blacks.

    individual responsibility does not entail being forced to pay for what SOMEONE ELSE DID 300 years ago
     
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  12. Turtledude

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    it's found in the same fiction shelf as books on "black Jewish Portuguese" slaves in the USA
     
  13. Esau

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    fine, be fore ever in debt, makes no difference to me.
     
  14. Turtledude

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    Say what?
     
  15. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Here's a riddle. Would there be a drug seller if there was no drug buyer?
     
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    My schooling here in the U. S. took me all the way through a Bachelor's Degree, Esau, and in no course of study was I ever taught that there were ever concentration camps for Negroes, whether "slave" or "free", in the United States of America. I am reasonably certain that there were none in the Confederate States of America, either, because Negro slaves were valuable property which had to be bought, paid for, and made economically productive. They were a commercial commodity.

    No, the only "concentration camps" we ever had in the U. S. were those that the Franklin Roosevelt government filled with people of Japanese descent during World War II.

    "During World War II, the United States forcibly relocated and incarcerated at least 125,284 people of Japanese descent in 75 identified incarceration sites. Most lived on the Pacific Coast, in concentration camps in the western interior of the country." Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans#:~:text=During World War II, the,western interior of the country.

    Now, let me ask you again, where and when were Negroes ever put into concentration camps in the U.S.?
     
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  17. Esau

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    Hmm, maybe you call them something different. Perhaps they're known as plantations in America but scholars call them concentration camps. Naom Chomsky calls them concentration camps and says they were the same as what the WJE were in in Germany.
     
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    OK, it is clear now that you cannot name a location for any such "concentration camps" for Negroes, whether slave or freed-man. You cannot tell us anything about these supposed "concentration camps" at all, really. I wish you luck in your pursuit of scholarship in this "concentration camp" venue because, truly, you have a LONG journey ahead.
     
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    What happened over 150 yrs ago is not really relevant today among political parties.
    They are not the same as that long ago.

    As @edna kawabata said, today way way way more D's have black member than the party that has the support of white nationalists and other racists, the R part. Who have less than a handful of black members.
     
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    Evidently you called them something different. Perhaps plantations? Noam Chomsky calls them concentration camps and says they were practically the same as the camps in Nazi Germany. Hitler was believed to be heavily influenced by American race based chattel slavery. The UK prime minister called Hitler "the German George" after George Washington.
     
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    couldn't care less. No one in the USA is a slave and no one owes them anything
     
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    black nationalists are as racist as the Klan. the democrat party is the party of institutionalized racism since it is the party of 'group rights" and group "debts"
     
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    If Europeans hadn't instigated the whole thing by looking for free labor, the slave trade wouldn't have taken place.
     
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    [​IMG]

    I'm ****ing dead. You sir get the post of the year.

    @Turtledude, you're done man. You're done. Just go sit down. It's over. Take your ball and go home.

    Oh **** I'm dead. Lmfao
     
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    Ahahahaha, oh sh**, you righties are great!

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/humiliated-bed-bath-and-beyond-in-toledo-call-cops-on-black-shoppers
     

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