Nikki Haley would DESTROY Biden. So shouldn't the entire Republican machine rally around her?

Those were private individuals trying to not have trump on the ballot. And yes, both were rejected. One for lack of standing, and I can't think of the other. But the Political party and their own rules is an entirely different matter that is not based on the two court petitions that were denied. Learn the difference.

 

Joe Biden has already defeated himself, IMO. He will most likely not be running in 2024, and so for republicans to focus their strategy on defeating him is pointless. This is not to say that Haley would be ineffective against anyone else, just that Biden is probably not going to be the target.

 

You do know that Biden has stated he intends to run in 2024, right? He still has a commanding lead within the Democratic Primary and has until December 2023 to officially declare himself. He has a slow pace for his reelection, but this is not unusual for a sitting president in most cases. Only columnists, pundits and others have stated he should not run, much the same way that some conservative pundits, politicians, and groups have stated that Trump should not run for 2024 and deal with his four indictments.

 

By what date would you say that Bribed Joe has to pull out to give his looming replacement an opportunity to enter and campaign in the primaries?

What do you think is the plan for Kamala?

 

Unconstitutional you have to have due process before you can deny someone their rights even many liberal constitutional scholars thing the logic behind the idea is ludicrous at best and down right dangerous at worst.

 

I may be wrong... wouldn't be the first time. But, what he has stated and what the folks in charge of him will allow are two very different things.

I'm just reading the tea leaves here, but I predict that he will not be running, and that he probably won't even finish out his term. What I feel is happening here is similar to what Nixon was going through; the decision has already been made that he must go, they just need to decide HOW he wants to go. Either he's impeached and removed, or he leaves of his own volition.

We already saw Scarborough tear him down on MSDNC. When we see the cackling hens on The View toss him under the bus too, then that will be the final signal that it's over.

 

I would think that he would have to bow out, or be forced out, very soon. As you say, time's running out for whoever the DNC selects as "the new guy". Kamala might get a short time stinking up the oval office after Joe's been rolled out, but there's no long term plan for a Harris presidency.

 

Jack, I think you’re basically in the same boat as I. I voted third party in 2016 as both Clinton and Trump disgusted me to no end. I wanted my vote to be officially registered as being against both. In 2020 I cast as vote for Biden, more against Trump than for Biden, but Biden in 2020 seemed to be an acceptable alternative to Trump. But since then, the democrats in congress have run all over Biden. It’s congressional democrats’ agenda, not Biden’s that is being pushed. I don’t like the idea of a patsy as president. I want him to have a pair. To push his own moderate democratic agenda that Biden had as a senator. Today, I’m still totally disgusted with Trump, I’d never vote for him. I’m also totally dissatisfied with Biden; I feel betrayed that the moderate democrat I thought we were getting has ended up being nothing more than a yes man for the progressives in congress.

Biden vs. Trump, a rematch, different vote this time. I’ll vote third party against both. If the polls are correct, a lot of other swing voters who voted for Biden only to get rid of Trump will probably follow my lead. A lot more will stay home and not vote ALA 2016. No incentive to go to the polls when both major party candidates are disliked and unwanted to become the next president by most Americans. Question 14 and 15.


https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/xttgobsv8q/econTabReport.pdf

 

Due process occurs with civil or ciminal, but if you belong to an organization, including a political organization such as the GOP, then you generally have to abide the rules of that organization, which means due process does not apply here. Like I said, the GOP can choose to anyone who can and who cannot be considered for nomination at the time of the Convention. The executive board can make that decision. Whether they will or not is the question if Trump is found guilty of any of the indictments Trump is facing.

 

Joe Scarborough's job is to criticize or compliment when he sees fit based on the evidence. And Joe Scarborough has been tougher and criticized more often on Trump than on Biden. The pundits want Biden not to run and have someone younger to run. But again, we won't know until around December when he has to officially declare himself for the candidacy. If Biden does run, most if not all of those pundits who support Biden and have called him not to run will turn around and support him. That is how politics is played.

 

If Bribed Joe is not going to be the nominee, Kackles Harris is going to expect to be the nominee, and she's a bigger disaster than Bribed Joe. So, how does the DNC ease her out without outraging the Black vote, without which, they cannot win a national election?

 

That's quite a pickle, isn't it? I'm going to pop a bushel of popcorn this election season. It's going to be a doozy!

 

The important thing is enjoying the election!

 

They don't have to if Biden declares he's not going to run. Then you default to an open primary, so Harris becomes just one of possibly several potential candidates. As long as it's done by Thanksgiving, to given any potential candidates time to get on all of the State ballots. Harris can take her chances then. If Biden dies before the 2024 election however, than Harris becomes President and she runs as an incumbent.

 

That is their easiest way out of the Harris debacle, just leave it up to the primary voter. Wait, who am I kidding, this is the DNC, they don't do that.

 

Lmao! Total MOOT Point...
IF Joe is still breathing...
THEN Joe is the Nominee...100%

 

In this case they might prefer it to a President Harris.

 

I think that the goal of the folks who currently run the DNC is to remain in control of the levers of power. They would prefer to lose than to win with someone who would purge them.

Bernie would have purged them, that's why he had to lose.
RFK would purge them, that is why he has to lose.
I think they think they can control Kamala.

 

She has to at least play her role without causing embarrassment. Otherwise why bother to think of a Biden exit strategy?

As for Bernie, he's been tamed. Except for the age, 2023 Bernie would be an acceptable substitute. He finally learned to love Big Brother.

 

Upon what are you basing your confidence of Biden not running?

 

"The Republicans choice." The party, or the primary voters?

 

Well this certainly conflicts with the CNN poll upon which this thread of mine is based, which has Haley at +6, and Trump at +1.

 

So you would rather have Biden?

 

What would be the relevance of the Democrats turning on her like they did with Romney and McCain?

 

Yeah, it certainly seems that this is the situation.