Israeli plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza

The state of Israel originated from the United Nations.

 

I'm sure you can't figure out WHY some Palestinians would become radicalized. It is not too hard to figure out.

 

Since ~ 600 AD Arabs have always hated Jews.

 

The 25,000 number .. be the actual number +/- 5000 so 20,000 -30,000 is the generally accepted number. It is not like the number is going to be 2500 killed .. we are talking Holocaust Denial at this point .. and just wrong given Israel is claiming 8000 Hamas Dead ..

and if the number 20,000 .. rather than 25,000 .. is not going to help your apology for atrocity, war crimes, Ethnic cleansing, crimes against humanity not one wit. .. and so is fallacy through and through .. as stating 8000 Hamas dead is admitting to at least 25,000 dead overall .. is more like 500 Hamas Dead and 24500 mostly women, children .. and civilian men.

So the only "Fake News" about the 25,000 figure which is reported widely in the US mainstream media .. and all over the world .. is the folks trying to claim the number is way off in an attempt to apologize for and deflect away from the reality. That is the fake news propaganda in put out right off the get go by the Israeli Pundits .. as would be expected . now they don't even bother with that anymore .. as it is roundly demonstrated as false and fallacious argument .. at other times admitting the number is valid by claiming 8000 Hamas killed thus far.

 

The Holocaust has been fully documented.

The only explanation for Hamas's failure to fully document the 25,000 dead bodies in their territory is that they do not exist.

Gaza Health Ministry = Propaganda = Fake News

Hamas is playing the same propaganda game attempted by the desperate Nazi regime after Dresden was bombed into rubble and ashes.
The "500,000 Dead" stories were just another Big Lie.
No one should believe nonsense like this coming from active combatants hiding underground desperate for a cease-fire and time to reload.

 

Think you have been exposed to some "Fake News" friend ... according to the voices that Matter ... and the agreements we are signed up for .. Collective Punishment is a war Crime .. which means the people that actually killed those 11,000 children were the one's responsible for their deaths .. Actus Rea .. if you like Latin Legal terms .. and the one's did the killing was the Israeli side. .. don't buy into that tall tale going round that Hamas done it .. that's just Israeli Propaganda hokey pokey

 

The ones responsible are Hamas.

 

Not true at all. Throughout history Muslims have been better to Jews than Christians have been. They did very well under Caliphates such as the Abbasids, who were far more cosmopolitan than Christians were. You are falling for Islamophobe propaganda my friend.

 

I have never truly understood the fascination some Americans have with the idea of a Zionist state where there once just a land filled with everyone living in pretty much harmony for centuries. I get it that Dominionists wish for the end times when Jews get wiped out by a vengeful Jesus unless they accept him as their lord and savior but why does that mean we accept everything they do without question? I have been around jews and arabs my whole life. Both have good and bad people, good and bad cultural habits and except for Israel, share many common values and even a common religious origin story. So why hate on Arabs as if they are all vermin? Why hate on Jews as if they are all vermin? I don't like Bibi and Likud. I don't like Hamas either. Do I think all Israelis/Jews are like Bibi? Nope. Do I think all Palestinians are like Hamas? Nope. What started this mess is the notion of Zionism which the Brits accepted for a time and the world allowed to justify taking over the land of people that had been living there for centuries. Get rid of Zionism, commit to full equality for one and all in the area, disallow unfettered right of return for anyone and start a new nation based upon all the wonderful traits of the Jews, the Palestinians and the Christians that once lived together in peace before this disaster was approved in 1948.

 

Exactly. Baghdad was a wonder of mankind until the Mongols destroyed it in the 1500s. Filled to the brim with all types living in pretty much harmony and relative luxury.

 

No it isn't. It's a direct reflection of the militant side of Islam.

 

That is not correct. Islam has always persecuted Jewish people.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-treatment-of-jews-in-arab-islamic-countries

 

Five Arab nations attacked the nation of Israel created by the 1947 United Nations partition plan. And the Arab/Islamic nations of the ME have been doing so ever since. Currently Iran through its cowardly proxies Hamas and Hezbollah are attacking Israeli citizens.

 

Lol, the Jewish virtual library? Going straight to the source of the propaganda, huh?


Do you have any concept of the different Caliphates? Your reference is well before the Abbasid Caliphate, and Jews were not selected for poor treatment because they were Jewish. Before the Abbasids, anyone who was not specifically an Arab Muslim could not rule, and anyone who was not Muslim was treated poorly. That changed completely after the Abbasid revolt, which overthrew the Umayyad Caliphate. Everything changed under the Abbasids, including the requirement for the ruling class to be Arab. Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians were protected as people of the book, and many Jews rose to very high positions in the Caliphate.

Your lumping all of Islamic history into one single ball of crap tells me you have never looked into the subject at all.

 

People tend to get mad when you take their land and dispossess its inhabitants and then say a Jew in Russia has more rights than a Palestinian. Zionism started this mess and it will never end as long as Israel is a Zionist nation. Sorry but Bibi cannot kill or move them all away so one day these people will get sick of killing each other and make a deal. One day the people of Gaza will rid themselves of Hamas and Bibi will go away. When that day comes, maybe there will be peace but given the asymmetry of 100 Arabs for one Jew, they are making more terrorists than they kill with the current policy.

 

Not to mention that the Ottomans were also much more fair to one and all then most if not all the Christian nations of the time.

 

That’s correct. They know first hand.

 

It wasn’t their land. It belonged to the Ottoman Empire and then the British after WWI.

 

Well, they were living there for centuries...it sure as hell wasn't land owned by the diaspora...why do you care so much? Are you an Israeli settler?

 

So were the Jews.

 

Wrong again. Jews have been persecuted throughout the centuries after the advent of Islam in ~ 600 AD.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-treatment-of-jews-in-arab-islamic-countries#:~:text=At various times,world.(12)

The Abbasid Caliphate lasted less than 100 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbasid_Caliphate

 

Yes, there were some there and they were treated the same as everyone else. But lets face it, you really don't want to treat the Palestinians fairly do you? You just want them to go away so some Jewish person in the Ukraine can emigrate and move into their house.

 

I would like everyone treated fairly. Unfortunately that us not the case with Hamas, Hezbollah, and their godfather Iran whose goal is to kill Jews and destroy Israel.

 

I am 68 and have been following this since 1972 in Munich. I know that terrorists are unredeemable but I don't think that element justifies what Bibi is doing right now in Gaza. I also don't believe that despite the world's revulsion at the Holocaust that we owed them a Zionist state on the backs of the people there. So you and I disagree, so be it.

 

I am 74 and have been following this since the six day war in 1967. Israel should never have left Gaza in 2005. Netanyahu warned against Israel leaving. He has been proven correct. Israel is doing what is necessary for the good of Israeli and Gazan civilians. Due to the dead baby policy of Hamas unfortunately many more will die than need be to eradicate Hamas from Gaza and fir Israel to regain control. That is the only option to bring peace, safety, and prosperity back to Gaza.