7 October testimonies strike major blow to Israeli narrative

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  1. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gullible people consume whatever is fed to them. Israel is the only place in the region where one can think for ones self and be critical of religion/government. Every criticism you have for Israel is something the others side is the extreme version of.

    We can add gullibility to the list. I don't use youtube to make my arguments for me and I don't watch them.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are incorrect. I have never been there. It was reported that hamas has tunnels. Is that true or false?
     
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    Results of being critical of Israeli government.
     
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    Have you shown any willingness to eat something other than Israeli MSMs?
     
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    Not the first time she spread a hoax.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, an ad hom fallacy is an attack on the person, not their post.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do not consume media from MSM. Are you trying to make this about me?

    Gullibility is when people consume without question. Those with the ability to think for themselves always doubt what others are attempting to feed them. Israel is the only place in the region where people can think for themselves and be critical of religion/government. Can you point out another place in the region where people can be critical of religion/government?
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have been corrected twice. I made no claim as to how many hamas or their minions have been killed. I do know that that side intentionally places women and children in harms way for images they can use in the PR war against Israel. Israel rushes their people underground at the first sign of danger.

    If only they cared about their people as much as they hate Jews.
     
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    Results of being critical of Israeli government.
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    Not a personal attack.

    Its a general statement that those who are willfully ignorant demonstrate a complete inability to debate on the merits.
     
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    Interesting . . . Where do you get information?
     
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    No evidence of this.
    No evidence of this either.
    Why not?
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is the reason they use women, children, ambulances, schools, and hospitals as cover. They need people posting these charts. In the end, the people you are defending would cut off your head for being an American.
     
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    Yes, I believe Israel uses all of these things as cover. Though, generally Israel just blows up the ambulances.
    Do you know the background of the chart? Go ahead and give a summary.
    I don't defend Israel - you do.
     
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    You are incorrect. Israelis sound an alarm and move their citizens to shelters at the first sign of danger. The other side uses hospitals, schools, and ambulances as cover. They do this to draw fire and create casualties so they can blame Israel for responding to terror attacks.

    If you are an American, you can visit Israel and come back with your head attached. Please point out another country in the region where this is possible.
     
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    Strange that Israel supposedly claimed that 27,000 of the 30,000 deaths were legitimate targets including 15,000 Hamas 'soldiers' given that Hamas supposedly use innocent civilians as human shields. Hamas must be terrible at being able to use these shields given how many Hamas Israel claim to have killed.
     
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    They are extremely good at it. They even have people they would throw off buildings supporting their cause. We don't know all the numbers, but we do know that Palestinian leadership organized an attack on 100% civilians. We can assume that Palestinian leadership knew there would be a strong response.

    It is easy to see the goals of each side. Israel just wants to be left alone. The other side has successfully cleansed their land of Jews, Christians, atheists, gay people, non-Muslims, and those critical of religion/government.
     
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    Wait?! You don't realize that Israel is bigoted and racist? The IOF uses women and children they consider animals as cover.
    I don't know which side you're talking about but the IOF also uses hospitals and schools as cover.

    As I said before the IOF likes to blow up ambulances with everyone inside them.
    Your sentence doesn't even make sense. Israel doesn't respond to terrorist attacks - Israel is the terrorist attack.
    The following Americans didn't. They were murdered by the IOF.

    Shireen Abu Akleh
    Rachel Corrie
    William B. Allenbaugh
    Philip McC. Armstrong, Jr.
    Gary R. Blanchard
    Allen M. Blue
    Francis Brown
    Ronnie J. Campbell
    Jerry L. Converse
    Robert B. Eisenberg
    Jerry L. Goss
    Curtis A. Graves
    Lawrence P. Hayden
    Warren E. Hersey
    Alan Higgins
    Carl L. Hoar
    Richard W. Keene
    James L. Lenau
    Raymond E. Linn
    James M. Lupton
    Duane R. Marggraf
    David W. Marlborough
    Anthony P. Mendle
    Carl C. Nygren
    James C. Pierce
    Jack L. Raper
    Edward E. Rehmeyer
    David Skolak Gary
    John C. Smith, Jr.
    Melvin D. Smith
    John C. Spicher
    Alexander N. Thompson
    Thomas R. Thornton
    Philippe C. Tiedtke
    Stephen S. Toth
    Frederick J. Walton
    It does suck that so many countries in the region are dominated by the U.S. military industrial complex and are rules by dictators put in power by the U.S.

    Americans were able to safely visit all of the countries in the region prior to the start of Israel LARPing experience.

    Although Americans might have to worry about being droned by the U.S., Afghanistan is safe since they kicked the U.S. military out. In Lebanon, you might have to worry about being bombed by the Israelis. In Jordan and Egypt, you have a U.S. and Israeli-backed dictators. Yemen was going to be safe but the U.S. is now bombing Yemen for no reason but to bomb it. The U.S. military industrial complex has sponsored a forever-war in Syria. Iraq is still trying to kick the U.S. out. Iran should be safe. Algeria should be safe. Of course the oil-rich sycophant countries of Qatar, Saudi Arabia, etc. should be fine. Turkey is still a nice place to visit and is protected from Israel by the NATO Treaty.
     
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    Sadly, too little is being done by the European governments to hold Israel off, it's still too much military support. The Israelis jet fighters are still being trained by the British RAF and we can all see the indiscriminate bombings in Gaza going on, then you've got the British air bases in cyprus that are maintaining all of the IDF fleet, refuelling, restocking etc. we (Britain) are equally accountable for whats happening, this "ethnic cleansing" has been signed off by UK, for good or for bad but sadly, the mass deaths of children is frankly too much to support for any right minded person.
     
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    So you deny the Oct 7 attack?
     
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    The IDF killed many Israelis on that day. Do you deny that?
     
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    I can't wait to answer your question. Thanks for asking it. First, answer mine. Did Palestinian leadership organize an attack on Israeli civilians on Oct 7?
     
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    Since you like doing the who asked first thingy, I asked the following before you asked the above.
     
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    Of course. As soon as you point out a thriving population of Jews, Christians, atheists, gay people, non-Muslims and those critical of religion in the surrounding region.
     
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    Why do you hate Muslims?

    It's pretty obvious you don't allow Muslims in your thriving population.

    Also, if you don't know the answer to my question and are unwilling to read anything to know what is going on, that's fine. Just say so.

    I'll still answer your questions, but they do need to be worded as a question.
     
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