7 October testimonies strike major blow to Israeli narrative

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  1. Bob Newhart

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    Which terrorist country has killed more journalists than any other country or terrorist organization has killed more journalists than any other country/organization?

    Israel is definitely a contender.

    They’ve killed 29 journalists this year and 20 last year. I think the figures are conservative.
     
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    How Israel gets their information . . .
     
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    Exactly - Hamas focused of the military targets and this is the reason they kidnapped Israeli women and children, to protect them Israeli cruelty.
    Here a picture Hamas brave fighters protect a dead body of Israeli woman:
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1711249900493812186

    I think Putin’s propaganda can learn a lot from Hamas.
     
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    No clue what happened with that woman and U.S. and Israel don't want any independent investigators to find out.

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    But yes, they went after military targets.
     
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    And here more military target Hamas attacked:
    https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/10/NYPICHPDPICT000061559122.jpg
    https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/10/NYPICHPDPICT000061559123.jpg
    https://tinyurl.com/557ss5uy
    https://twitter.com/HenMazzig/status/1710719164099318078

    and much more...
     
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    First is a picture of a child with some unknown people with blurred faces.
    Second is the same but a different child.
    Don't know who they are what they are nor the circumstances of the picture.
    Next shows two military aged people plus one possible child in the back of a trailer. No circumstances were released about them.
    Final shows a woman in the IDF who was supposedly captured and participated in the killing of Palestinians in the West Bank during her service in the IDF.

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    Children shot to death by the IDF.
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    Killed by Israeli settler in hit and run. No attempt to find the accomplice by the IDF.

    So far the score is 5 to -1.

    -1 because you showed a soldier and claimed innocent civilian status. All the rest don't count because of no clue what happened. You obviously can't even guess what happened.

    Basically, you got nothing.
     
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    Meh I don't know. I've seen footage from downed Hamas assailants. They were targeting civilians. Israel doesn't seem to really care about Palestinian civilians. Maybe they'd like them to die but can't be seen to be doing it for its own sake. Both regimes are basically evil, but Israel has more power. Civilians on both sides, but mostly Palestinians, suffer the consequences, as usual.
     
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    This looks like some random words thrown together lol
     
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    You say both sides are evil and there is some merit to that but if you factor in who is the occupier and the occupied then it should at least bring some empathy to discussion, no?
     
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    You have the right to believe in Tooth Fairy and you have right to believe that Hamas did not attack Israeli civilians, killed, raped and kidnapped Israeli women and children.
    What Israel did is the same what did civilized Western democratic country - attacked with airplanes and artillery Hamas places, the same as the West attacked Germany, Serbia, Iraq or Afghanistan, and there is no way to prevent the collateral damage, especially when Hamas members do not have special barracks where they live.
    As matter of fact, it is possible that Hamas commanders are mentally retarded and didn't guess that Israel's response to Hamas attack will be severe - if this is the case, IMHO Israel should not attack Gaza.
     
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    Yep, for some people who have difficulty to understand written text, it looks like some random words thrown together, :roflol:
     
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    So Palestine is raping Israeli children now!

    What next, Palestine is drinking blood too?

    This bs has got to stop, for your own good.
     
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    What I posted happened in the West Bank. No Hamas there. Just unarmed Palestinians being slaughtered by Israel because, well, just because.
     
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    When in the West Bank armed Palestinians shoot on the army or on regular Israelis, Israeli army shoots back. Israeli army shoots also on people throwing stones on the army or on Israeli civilian cars.
    Sometimes when Israeli army has an info that Palestinians are planning attack - they break into homes to arrest suspects - almost all the time the Israeli army is met by 'unarmed' Palestinians who shoot at the army and some Israeli soldiers and Palestinians are killed.
    More or less what Israeli army is doing is what any police is doing when people attack police.
    Is Israeli army always right? Of course not, the same as Hamas, American or English are not always right.
    The problem is that Palestinians want their own country - for which they have a right - but Hamas does not want Israel to exist and torpids any attempt to make peace between Israel and Palestinians.
     
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    You might as well be talking about unicorns.

    Palestinians don't have weapons in the west bank. Even knives are prohibited to them. This is pure fantasy. There is no Hamas in the West Bank.

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    Breaking the Silence


    This is what happens.

    Soldiers need something to do. They randomly select a house. Break down the door. Women to one side men to the other. Toss the place. Harrass them. Leave. Rinse. Repeat. Day after day.

    Israel is an apartheid regime. Israel doesn't want peace, they want the Palestinians gone. Send them to New Zealand.

    The war is one-sided. Israel is the only aggressor.
     
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    "One of many homes in Kibbutz Be’eri which appears to have been shelled with heavy weapons"

    https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/27/israels-military-shelled-burning-tanks-helicopters/

    "Israel’s military 'eliminated everyone, including the hostages,' firing tank shells into kibbutz homes

    "Photos of the aftermath of the fighting inside kibbutzes like Be’eri – and of the Israeli bombardment of these communities – show rubble and charred homes that resemble the aftermath of Israeli tank and artillery attacks inside Gaza.

    "As Tuval Escapa, the security coordinator at Kibbutz Be’eri, told Haaretz, Israeli army commanders had ordered the 'shelling [of] houses on their occupants in order to eliminate the terrorists along with the hostages.'"

    If Israel's military intentionally targeted areas where it knew captives were held, it's actions would have been entirely consistent with its Hannibal Directive; a procedure that drew its name from the Carthaginian general who chose to poison himself rather than surrender and be held captive.
     
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    Unguided rockets do not discriminate between military targets and civilian targets. Once fired they fly where the wind takes them. We know these types of weapons are used by Palestinians. There is no denying this fact.
     
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    Because Newhart and people like him didn’t witness the Holocaust personally it never happened. The Jews are lying.
     
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    Most ppl agree the numbers were an exaggeration
     
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    Yep. When I was growing up in the seventies the figure was 3 million. Yet now the figure is apparently 6 million.
     
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    Typical playbook. When you have no response, accuse them of being a Holocaust denier or Hamas supporter
     
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    deleted...can't be arsed with this crap
     
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