Ban all guns

So you are a believer in the caveman "might makes right" views? I believe that went out of fashion in the Renaissance (along with, strangely enough, the invention of firearms _

Personally, I believe in technology over brute force. A firearm gives a 80 yr old grandma the ability to protect herself from a 17 yr old street thug.

POSTED: 1:59 p.m. EDT, September 9, 2006
NEW YORK (AP) --

Margaret Johnson might have looked like an easy target.

But when a mugger tried to grab a chain off her neck Friday, the 56-year-old Johnson, while riding in her wheelchair, pulled out her licensed .357 pistol and shot him, police said.

Johnson said she was in Manhattan's Harlem neighborhood on her way to a shooting range when the man, identified by police as 45-year-old Deron Johnson, came up from behind and went for the chain.

"There's not much to it," she said in a brief interview. "Somebody tried to mug me, and I shot him."

Deron Johnson was taken to Harlem Hospital with a single bullet wound in the elbow, police said. He faces a robbery charge, said Lt. John Grimpel, a police spokesman.

Margaret Johnson, who lives in Harlem, has a permit for the weapon and does not face charges, Grimpel said. She also was taken to the hospital with minor injuries and later released.

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved

 

Perdi,

You are a sad person.

 

Where do you live?

 

Actually, no, I'm fairly happy.

I'm not a caveman, so I don't believe that might makes right, like you do. I believe in the rule of law, and in the use of technology.

 

I live in CANADA aka The Great White. Where men are men and women are glad of it, where all men are treated equal, where compassion is the norm, where equality rules.

 

I know you are from Canada. I just wanted to know where, so I can put my guns away, and come up there and (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)-slap you.

 

Actually in this case you probably would be wise to keep your gun handy.

 

Will I be detained by the Canadian authorities?

 

If you enter Canada with a handgun you will have to surrender the weapon until you leave. Failure to do so is a crimianl offense and you would quite likely be simply finded and your handgun confiscated. Rifles are somewhat easier to bring into the country for hunting purposes. Simply declare the rifle and you will be allowed to enter.

I have three rifles ( .22, 303, and a 30.06) the 303 is a military grade weapon which my Dad gave to me. I hunt and occasionally target practice.

 

Actually, you are mistaken. Provided that the handgun is not chambered for .25 or .32 caliber, has a barrel length of over 4.1 inches, it can be carried into Canada, provided that the owner has a valid ATT (which can be obtained online from a website). An ATT is an Authorization to Transport Restricted Firearms.


http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/form-formulaire/pdfs/909.pdf

 

I suggest you try it. You will NOT get the weapon into the country.

 

Your 303 would be a Lee Enfield 303 bolt action repeating rifle, all the comonwealth forces used these until the late 50's.

 

Canada did not use the Lee-Enfiled in WWI until 1916. Our forces used the Ross Rifle, mine is a Ross Mark I 303 (still fires). My dad brought back a German Luger from WWII and we had it for years - it disappeared in the mid 1960's and we have no idea what happened to it. I do wish I still had it.

My Dad died this past June at age 87 and his collection of Military memorabalia was extensive including several rifles and one Inglis semi-automatic pistol. My Mum wont get rid of them and I havent the heart to ask her for one. Hopefully some day I will have his collection.

 

I don't stereotype. Many persons of alleged conservatism don't seem to love their republic as much as they love their guns either, or we would not have a gun issue in the US.

 

Our Second Amendment is very clear on what is necessary for the security of a free State.

Gun control is a States' right, while gun Prohibition is not. Why blur the distinction while claiming you are not resorting to ambiguity or fallacy?

 

The logic is simple. If gun lovers actually loved their republic as much as they claim to love their guns, becoming entitled to the character of a well regulated Militia of the United States would not be an issue.

It is only an issue when gun lovers don't want to love their republic as much as they claim to love their guns.

 

What makes you think gun lovers do not love the United States?

 

I hate guns and see no reason to have them. It's only use is to be a weapon. To harm or kill. Now knives, how handy are they - we can chop up vegetables with them (so never ban them) but they can also harm or kill too sadly.

I know some people see shooting ducks, rabbits, squirrels and clay pigeons as sport (personally I'll rather stick to football (soccer) and basketball myself). But it is still killing a living thing (poor clay pigeons), each of these are "god's" creatures. It is not sport for them, but mindless murder. Imagine giant creature chasing us around with guns just for the fun of it. (50 extra points if they are a red-neck.)

But we need guns to defend ourselves just like the bow and arrow in yesteryear. Yes, because the West have created so many enemies by shooting, murdering, raping and generally being mean to everyone we meet who is different to ourselves.

So should guns be banned to the general public? Yes. The only people who should have access to guns is the armed forces, and a minority of the police. Never some nut who wants to kill innocent people (or a poor clay duck).

 

Huh? You are just saying the same thing over and over again. Please explain what you mean that "love their republic" means. Simple question.

 

So basically you hate guns and want to ban them. Very childish view based primarily on emotion. I hate sports cars--their only use is to speed, but I don't want to ban them.

And if other predators could, they would. If you are not a vegetarian, then you are a hypocrite. If you are a vegetarian, you have a point. You shouldn't hunt. Leave it to us who enjoy it.

As if they aren't doing the same? The human race is generally mean to everyone we meet who is different than ourselves. To blame it on the West is just absurd.

What about those of us who only want to kill guilty people? The only people I would ever shoot are those who would harm me or mine (meaning my family and friends), i.e. the guilty.

Policemen have a worse record per capita in terms of committing violent crimes than do Concealed Weapons Permit holders in Florida. Not sure that policemen are the folks who need to be armed....

 

Agreed with you on sports cars, used to show off wealth. Give me a SmartCar anyday, it gets me from A to B the same way at the same speed, the national speed limit. But really guns have just one use - to shoot things with. But if you want to protect your family if it not a better idea to live in a society where hardly anyone have access to guns, including the mass majority of the police. Or do you just want to have a better weapon than your enemy? He has a baseball bat while you have a shotgun.

I don't believe all police officers should have guns, just police officers who deal with armed criminals. I would hate if Britain had all of its police officers had guns. I'm quite proud of the fact that the first time I saw a gun was on holiday in Spain when I was 16.

I do believe that the vast majority of the people in Gun Clubs would not harm or murder another person and it is sad that it because a very small minority that I call for the banning of all guns.

 

Stats show that the SmartCar is among the 10 worst vehicles of all times in terms of survivability in a one car crash. It's down there with the Ford Pinto and the Yugo.

I am 45 yrs old with back problems. I can't take on a 18 yr old with a baseball bat. I can take them on with a 9mm. There is no better method of self defense than a modern handgun. It allows for the weak and old to defend themselves against the young and strong.

I don't know how it is in the UK, but in the U.S. when I call the police, it takes upwards of 15 minutes for them to get there. An unarmed criminal can do a lot of damage to me in 15 minutes. 80%+ of violent crimes in the U.S. involve no weapons.

Also, I live in hurricane country. In the time of a hurricane, there is no police protection, and almost no way to call the police. I was very happy after hurricane Ivan to have a means to defend myself and my family. Your needs may vary.

Well, stay in the UK. I'm fine with you having all guns banned in your country. Don't want it here. I don't make prescriptions for what the British should do, so I don't want to hear your prescriptions of what I should do.

 

Gun lovers who love their republic as much as they love their guns do not have a problem mustering to prove it; over and over again if necessary.

In my opinion, all gun lovers may need is a few good militia chicks to make them muster.

 

I try to keep it as simple as possible.

Gun lovers who love their republic as much as they love their guns do not have a problem becoming entitled to the character of a well regulated Militia of the United States.

 

Some of us consider target practice to be our mustering.