N.Y. farm will no longer host weddings rather than allow same-sex ceremonies

I think gay marriage should be legal everywhere, but this is why I despise the loud gay minority.

If you told me that you didnt want me to have my wedding at your funeral because you were anti-atheist, I would just go somewhere else.

Some people always need to (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) and complain about something.

 

They just need to do these weddings for free, and accept "donations" I see people legally sell weed this way all the time, should work for these farm owners just the same.

 

Could they not just host weddings 'outside' of the business realm.

I know several people with large farms in Kentucky that host weddings for a fee and Im 99% sure they aren't any sort of business. If someone asks to use your farm for a wedding for X amount of dollars, you do it. You don't have to be a business to accept that offer.

 

..and leave the property owners without the means to say NO?
Wow.....just wow.
"All we want is the Right to marry...." the gay crowd...that was a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing lie, because what they really want to do is to tell everyone else what to do.
When I was a contractor I refuse three jobs for gays. They just went someplace else. That is their privilege.
Their Rights end where mine begin...........

 

Can't blame them , I'd want you out of the house too.

 

They shouldn't be forced to preform under for religious reasons . If there are any gay farmers around I'm sure they would perform the ceremony. McDonalds doesn't sell hot dogs - I'm going to have Cuomo close them all down in NY cause I think they should sell hotdogs !

 

The licence to sell a product or service to the public. That includes the public. You know, people willing to buy. That public.

It isn't a lifestyle, but so what?

I agree. Bigots are being forced to treat people equally. If they suffer horribly because their bigotry is being stifled, the easy solution is to drop the bigotry.

Tolerance is allowing other people to do things you wish they wouldn't. Christ is supposed to have taught tolerance. Do you really not see the irony in using Christ to justify intolerance? Really?

 

But you have changed the subject. Nobody is asking these people to sell something they are not offering for sale. If McDonalds doesn't sell hot dogs, you can buy anything on their menu. Now if hot dogs are on the menu but they won't sell them to YOU, but will sell them to the guy next to you, you have a case.

And I still don't understand why people use Christ to justify intolerance and bigotry.

 

Umm, I'm a 47 year old man, I've been out of the house for a very long time. Now, can you address something in my post, or are you just going to make rude comments?

 

Sounds fair.
Break the law, face the consequences... or don't break the law.

 

Again , the law was imposed after they had been in operation , the feeling here is that the gay couple is trying to make an issue rather than to get on with their lives. They want a wall built ? I'll supply the cement !You've been accepted now stop with the " I also want"demands !

 

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Do you see the IRONY that you and your ideas have become intolerant also ? You've become the bigot- how ironic!

 

It does not matter when the law was enacted. It applies to all business that offer services and products to the public.

 

This is always comical. You are entirely currect, we as a society do not tolerate intolerance. If a society is so tolerant as to tolerate intolerance, that society is guaranteed to NOT be a tolerant society. You can't have it both ways.

Now, if only those people who claim to be Christians ACTED as though they were Christians, anti-bigotry laws would be unknown.

The crux of the Good Samaritan tale was that the Hebrews and the Samaritans were bitter enemies, and Hebrews regarded Samaritans as being lower than dirt. Christ's point was that the Samaritan acted the way a Christian was supposed to act, even though he wasn't a Christian. Contrast this with the bigots running this farm, who are using their Christianity as their REASON for denying Christ. Real Christians everywhere are appalled.

 

First off thanks for the link. I guess you're right in that department. I am curious though about the age ratio of those christians and just how many of the practice their faith devoutly. I'm not asking you for a link on that(unless you somehow have one). I don't think that information is available one way or the other.

 

The right to religious freedom. You know, freedom.

This will be an agree to disagree situation because as far as I'm concerned it is a lifestyle.

Bigots are also forcing their lifestyle on others and making them do something they disagree with.

Christ also didn't say to encourage actions which he deemed sinful either. What's your point?

 

There is no grandfathering in of illegal activity, just because you were carrying out the illegal activity before the law was passed does not mean that some how its okay to continue after it is made illegal.

That's not how the law works.

These people had a choice, either obey the law of pay for the consequences of breaking it. They chose to break it. They paid, now they choose not to hold weddings because of the law and that is their right.

What don't you get? Its no longer acceptable to treat a certain section of society as a second class citizen.

 

So we have conflicting freedoms here -- the freedom to use religion as an excuse to discriminate, against the freedom to exercise the same rights as everyone else. Gee, that's a hard one.

Nobody has yet dared to answer the frequent question about homosexual virgins. If they never take action, is it STILL a lifestyle?

And fortunately, losing in court when they do it.

Are you familiar with the phrase "turn the other cheek"? Christ is supposed to have preached that.

 

The freedom to jam someone's lifestyle in someone's face against the freedom to religion.

Are you asking if a gay person doesn't have sex is it still a lifestyle? If a boyfriend and a girlfriend don't have sex are they still dating(and just so we're clear, I do consider straight a lifestyle too)?

Yay, it's good that we get to use the courts to force our beliefs on yours! Woo hoo!

I don't care what christ taught. Is their a reason you keep bring him up?

 

Putting your hands on your hips and declaring that one is reqired to do as another ordes is NOT a form of freedom on any level. To do something just because you feel like being an ass, still doesn't make it right. These two set this up for a lawsuit. They knew that this group would resist because of their Freedoms and Liberty to do so. So the farm owners now become chattel to the gays because the gays want to make an issue about it.
Tell us, why in the hell would someone force another to their will? First off, these people own the business, not the homosexual women. These two deliberately went out of their way to compel another to utilize their personal business for the gays end. Tell you what. Under those circumstances, I would have charged them 10 times the going rate and find a way to keep the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing deposit. You want to tell me how to run my business, you might, but you will sure as pay for it...every (*)(*)(*)(*)ing step of the way.
All we want is the Right to legally marry, nothing more...except for telling you how to run your business then try to use the courts to compel.
If they knew the business was resistant, how in the hell could you feel comfortable being in their house when there is so much resistance? The freakin gays were practicing their own version of intolerance. Why go where you are wanted? Just to start trouble because you can? How could you then look into the eye of the owners and expect the PC attitude that you so loving demand from others but fail to give yourself.
Nope, gays which constitute 2% of the population are now a protected and endangered species, or that's how we are supposed to treat them. Little pets..........
Each and everyone of them are tyrants. They will force their way in and them tell you what it is.
Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). come try that here....................
They want to be treated as pets, yet fail training
My jack russell has better manners than those two

 

For gay marriage. Against forcing people to perform it.
Does religious freedom mean anything anymore?

 

when you force someone to go against their beliefs, you are surely going to get blowback.

 

So there's some special rights that you haven't been granted? (Start the violins.)

 

No one is being forced to perform anything.

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If your beliefs don't allow you to sell a certain service, then you should find another service to sell.

 

Religion is not a licence to break the law. If your religion requires you to do so, find another religion.

If you regard waking up in the morning as a lifestyle, then of course everthing is a lifestyle. Eating is a lifestyle, excreting is a lifestyle. So your term seems so broad as to apply to nothing in particular.

Where appropriate, yes. I find many speed limits to be annoyingly conservative. If I claim the religion of speed, does that mean I get out of obeying the speed limit?

Are you serious? These bigots CLAIM to be denying the rights of ordinary citizenship to homosexuals because of their Christian religion - that is, because they CLAIM to be following the teaching of Christ. So yes, there's a reason I bring it up. Christ taught exactly the opposite of what these bigots CLAIM to be doing in His name. Christians are supposed to care about what Christ taught. Otherwise, what religion ARE these people? The religion of self-righteous bigotry?