Ask someone who's transgender anything!

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  1. Pipette8

    Pipette8 Well-Known Member

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    All I can say is "desecration".
     
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    Pipette8 Well-Known Member

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    Where are you going to get the uteruses?
     
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    Same place as other organs made available for transplants. Aside from kidney & partial-liver transplants, which can be made via a live donor; organs become available for transplant upon a person's death, providing they are a registered donor or with the permission of next-of-kin. I suppose if the trans woman had a sister who did not want children, it might be possible with a live donor, I am not sure.
     
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    I know, I've heard about those utersuses. They're expensive and they also require hip surgery as well but they would be amazing to have. Unfortunately for me my health insurance isn't paying for transition just yet because the law doesn't require them to do it just yet which is annoying as heck.
     
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    Sorry. At this point in time I don't think they should pay for surgeries.
    I see them as optional as one who gets Lazik for eyes or plastic surgery for looks.
    Not being intentionally mean here. Just how I see it.
     
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    A uterus transplant. Who would have ever thunk it?
     
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    Both of those are blindingly obviously men - especially the white one. I cannot believe any straight male would not realise that instantly. They are lying, if they say the didn't know. Maybe it's just a case of - they knew, but wanted to flatter the object of their affection by pretending they didn't, and they wanted to reassure the world and themselves that they are 'straight'.

    Female to male trans though, is a different matter. They are often impossible to detect. I can well believe it if a straight female said she didn't know her boyfriend was trans until told.
     
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    Check out Thailand. MUCH cheaper, and they've been doing trans surgeries there for a long time.
     
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    Well, I'm totally confused. A woman turns herself into a man so she can have sex with other men. I'm scratching my head over that one.
     
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    I totally don't get it either. :confusion:
     
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    These should go to WOMEN who have lost their uterus due to cancer or an accident or something first, IMO.

    Goodness, these people have a totally unhealthy obsession, if you ask me! It all seems to be rather self centered IMO.
     
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    I was very surprised when I first read that Janet was trans & I don't believe that I would've know that Zoe is either, if I hadn't first learned about her, in an article where she openly discusses her transition. You are welcome to your opinion, flawed & in-accurate as I believe it to be. But just because you don't believe something, doesn't mean that you are right. Also, to claim that their partners are both liars because they disagree with your perception is pretty arrogant. Besides which, a man dating a trans women is straight.

    I have no opinion on your comment regarding trans men though, since as far as I know I have never met one. So I have no honest basis for an opinion. But from what I have seen from watching a couple of documentaries on (FTM) female-to-male surgery, my impression is that it would be MUCH easier to tell, than with a trans woman.
     
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    Actually being transsexual and youth gender fantasy is the same thing. Being a transvestite and being transsexual is not the same either. However, the PCism demanded by LGBTs is SO great now that even discussing any variations including the most popular isn't even allowed on the forum. Literally, the most extreme and offensive voices now are in total control as the sole experts in psychiatry and the absolute control word police.

    A gay man who keeps male genitals but maybe gets a boob job and sometimes dresses as a woman is called a __________? Can't say because it is dictated that he may ONLY be called a "transgender." The goal is to declare as many people as transgender - anyway possible - to claim higher numbers. Not only can you not call those men by any other definition, it is banned to use the word they use themselves to describe themselves.

    The messages of the OPer do NOT indicate he is a transsexual, and the meaning of transgender is now so broad as to have virtually no meaning whatsoever. Transgender does NOT equate to being transsexual. That is the HUGE lie being sold.
     
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    Typo correction in first sentence. "The two are NOT the same psychology."
     
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    Yes.

    Now answer the question.....if DNA determines gender, what gender are people with XXY chromosomes?
     
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    Thank you for this opportunity! With all respect, Why should I not wonder about a persons sanity, when they are in denial about the gender to which they were born? If a person has what I believe is referred to as "Alien Limb Syndrome", where they honestly believe that their arm or leg is not actually "OF" their body, and they actually attempt to self amputate, and society rightly doubts the state of their mental health, why should we view "Trans" as any different when they want to have their genitals removed/mutilated? Why are people who pretend to be Lizards or Cats or whatever, who go through extensive body modification to pretend to achieve this identity considered abnormal, but if your issue is that you're a girl when in fact you're a boy, we are demanded to consider you as "normal"?

    Please, don't be offended. I mean no harm in this line of question. I would never deny you or even "Lizard Man" your humanity, your dignity, your right to pursue happiness etc. I'm just honestly curious how the one thing is considered a mental condition worthy of psych treatment, and yet the other makes the cover of a magazine and gets "Woman of the Year" award. To me, superficially at least, they all look like different flavors of the same candy, so to speak.

    Again, I thank you with all respect!
     
  17. Charly

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    I don't know how decisions are made as to who qualifies for a donor organ, this is certainly a possibility. However, I think it is a little unfair & unkind to consider the desire to bear a child a self-centered, unhealthy obsession. After all, isn't the desire to bear a child rather than adopt or use a surrogate, the reason a woman who lost her uterus to cancer or an accident would desire this procedure? And there is an actual medical condition (I cannot remember the name, sorry) where a woman can be born without a uterus. As a person who struggled for years with fertility problems before finally being able to have a family, I am sympathetic to both, with no particular preference. Why are you only sympathetic to women who've lost their uterus due to cancer or an accident? Can you not see that these women are in an equal position? Or are you one of those people who have difficulty in seeing trans women, as actually being women?
     
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    I also found this to be quite confusing until I did a little research. If he was born female but identifies as male, that is one thing. But gender identity & sexual orientation are different things. After all, the sex life of 2 gay men is very different than that of a straight couple, at least in some respects. And as a straight woman (I am assuming for the purposes of this discussion), you are attracted to straight men, not gay ones, right? And if his gender, his soul or personality, however you want to put it, is male; that is not going to be attractive, appealing or even compatible, to a straight guy, even if she didn't transition. That's the best explation that I can think of, I am somewhat knowledgeable, but certainly no expert.
     
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    This doesn't really explain it for me. Me, being a heterosexual woman, I am attracted to men and masculinity. Why would I find a man dressed up as a woman attractive being a heterosexual?

    What if you are married to man who suddenly wants to transition to a woman??? I am a heterosexual so I am attracted to the opposite of myself. If I was attracted to womanly features and women wouldn't that make me a lesbian? Why would a heterosexual woman stay with a man who has transitioned into a woman? It's all very confusing.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Thanks for trying to explain it anyways. Lol. :)
     
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    I am assuming that what you are trying to ask, is they work? As in, can they derive pleasure & achieve orgasm? According to my research, the answer is that most of the time, yes they can.
     
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    According to her autobiography, Zoe Dolan sued her insurance company when they refused to pay. It wasn't clear whether or not she won, as a lawyer I would have to think that she makes a good deal of money. And as someone else on here mentioned, much cheaper in Thailand & they've been doing it a very long time & do excellent work. There is also that lady Dr. in Colorado, who is trans herself.
     
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    I tried, but as I said, this is mostly via research. And talking with & learning from my 2 trans girl friends. I am also a straight woman. I have never met a trans man. So, it's all just theoretical to me. But I think that is why there are so many different kinds of people in the world, so we can learn from each other. Part of the spice that makes life interesting, yes?

    As to your other questions (2nd paragraph), most marriages do not survive the transition process, but some do. If you really love each other, sometimes that is enough. Even though it would obviously mean the end of your sex life together, I would assume. I certainly couldn't do it, but for a small percentage of people, it is possible. Have you ever seen the show "Transparent"? They really handled it beautifully, the wife asks her husband (I can't remember his name before he changed it to Maura, sorry) "So, does this mean you are going to want to always pretend you're a woman" And he answers her "No, you don't understand. All my life, I have been pretending that I am a man."
     
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    Are you one of those people who does not understand that "woman" and "female" are not the same words and do not mean the same thing?
     
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    You don't understand the difference between gender and sex, do you? An XXY person is of the XXY sex.
     
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    While it is obvious they are different words, I do tend to use them & think of them as being interchangeable. My bad!! As a writer, I should certainly know better.
     

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