Refugees and the European strategic error

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by Alik Bahshi, Jul 22, 2016.

  1. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you admit that there have been polish terrorist groups.
    I have absolutely no love for Muslims... Just like I have no love for Polish Catholics. Religion is a scourge on humanity.
    You can back to your whining and how you have personally had it so so tough... :roflol:
     
  2. PolakPotrafi

    PolakPotrafi Banned

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    I'm Agnostic, but that's besides the point.

    Even though Islamic Tatars are under occupation, they are also virtually devoid of terrorism.

    Clearly a racial issue at play.
     
  3. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well... Coming from a racist that doesn't really say much does it? Everything is about race to you.
    Have you classified Polish people as whiners? I mean... If we are to take you for a representative of Poles whining would be a definitive trait.

    So... Are you going to write a thesis on racial propensity for terrorism?
     
  4. PolakPotrafi

    PolakPotrafi Banned

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    Well, you think that Muslim terrorism is from past occupation, well Islamic Tatars are still occupied, and they haven't resorted to terrorism like the Arabs?

    How come?

    Of course Tatars are like White - Asiatic hybrids, so they're much different racially to the Arabs.
     
  5. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do? Hmm... If you say so...
    No. What I said is that history does play a part in how easily you can radicalise people.
    I have not looked into Muslims Tatars and I have better things to do than run around after your racist ignorance.

    Come back to me when that thesis is ready.... It will be interesting to read. Do keep the whining to a minimum though.
     
  6. lunecat

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    Although your comments were not in reply to any of my posts. I have noticed that not only have you "not looked into" the facts of the issues that the original poster made ... You have not looked into any issues at all.!!!

    You are an unrepentant EU pro-CIA, pro-Corporatist fascist!

    You hate anyone & you hate anything that is not the EU.
     
  7. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hilarious coming from you... You are just another racist so why would I care?

    No I have not looked into Muslim Tatars and their history. Why the hell would I?

    EU, pro-CIA, Pro Corporatist Fascist... Didn't you miss a few things? :roflol:

    Are you a caricature or just a fool?
     
  8. lunecat

    lunecat Active Member

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    Au contraire mon ami

    And thankyou so very much for actually admitting you are an ignorant poster that hasn't evem "looked into Muslim Tatars and their history"

    This just shows that you post with "ignorance" and "pro-EU, pro-CIA" thoughts and have no idea what you are talking about.

    The EU is a CIA project if YOU missed that fact. Then please do some more reading before you rolll about on your back like a silly dog that wants it tummy rubbed!
     
  9. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure it was... If you are fool and believe in conspiracy theories.

    You are actually doing a grave disservice to the many Europeans who envisioned a united Europe while being jailed by Fascists.
    Hell... Even Churchill knew that a united Europe was necessary... Was he a CIA operative?
     
  10. lunecat

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    Oh I see you are trying to move away from the FACT that you have been caught out for being a self-admitted ignorant poster. OK just so long as we have that FACT clearly established!

    As for myself doing a "grave disservice to many Europeans who envisioned a united Europe"... It was the National Socialists (aka the Fascists that wanted a united Europe in the first place) please read Martin Bormann's "Nazi in exile"


    Yes the EU is a NAZI & CIA dream & there is no doubting that & anyone that supports the EU is a NAZI fascist supporter of the worst kind!

    If you want to re- read Churchills speach on post war Europe, here it is :
    http://www.churchill-society-london.org.uk/astonish.html


    I lover running rings around you simpleton EU fools!!!
     
  11. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You should start reading some real history books... Whatever you are consuming at the moment is not worth my time...

    Here is a little overview of some of the past proponents;
    http://spartacus-educational.com/2WWeuropeunity.htm

    Now go study.
     
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    William Penn was posting before the German Nazi movement & their ideal that you support.

    And come on so what William Penn???? What & how does mean & how does that support your idea of the Europen Union?


    I hate to use the now long outdated "LOL" but in your case it really does apply! Only because to say anything else might bee seen as belittling you. For the fool you are.

    Anyway I read the whole article & found absolututely no reference to refugess flooding into Europe & certainly none to a federal state.

    In future if you "think" you have found "gold" & say to yourself .... I shall post this link to support my argument!!! Then I suggest you actually fully read the content link. Otherwise you leave yourself open to ridicule. Just as you have just done.


    Better luck next time Pal!!!!
     
  13. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Penn is one among many. A lot of thinkers from before Penn are also missing. What about the rest?

    You seem to have issues staying on a topic... Not surprising. European federalism, unity and statehood has been a constant part of European culture since the Roman Empire.
    Nazi's have nothing to do with the idea of a federal Europe envisaged by many thinkers throughout history.

    Refugees flooding Europe? :roll:
    You are so transparent... What a surprise that an article about the idea of a united federal Europe in our history doesn't talk about refugees:roll:

    Anything else you want to waste my time with? Is there any reason why you keep replying to me? You need to go to the conspiracy section.... Maybe Infowars is more for you.
     
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    Penn was before the Nazis & their eutopian Euopean dream that you now follow.

    The Nazis have EVER thing to do with the current CIA thinking about a single political entity of Europe. Read your history... In fact I have already given you one link.

    As for refugee. Sure we in Europe have a long history of accepting small amouts of refugees, now there is an order of magitude greater than at any time in the past (in case you don't know what "an order of magnitude" actually means" it is X10)

    I don't care if you give up this argument or not I know I am right & I know that the people of my Country hate what the EU has become.

    If you are a pro-Nazi pro-CIA & belive in EU corporatism then that is up to you , but don't think for one minute the real people of Europe will lay down & accept your slavery for one minute... You are sadly mistaken.


    Now whether you can even come back & provide a serious argument is neither here nor there to me. I am not replying on you & your NAZI lies. To be able to confront the NAZI/CIA agenda of a sinlge state Europe. I shall fight anyone that promotes that agenda.
     
  15. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have already been shown that the idea of a united Europe in various forms has been part of European culture. It has been so for many many centuries.
    The Nazi's have absolutely nothing to do with the intellectual foundation for European federalism or unity or the EU. Neither does the CIA... You really need to go to the conspiracy section... This is simply worthless crap I don't know where you picked up... But it is cringingly stupid.

    Go away with your stupidity.
     
  16. lunecat

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    Read "the last Nazi" by Martin Bormann & see just how wrong you are.


    I laugh when you try & tell me to "go away" it just shows that you have no arguements to combat my truth.
     
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    And there are ONLY German posters left on this forum that actually promote the EU... That is because only the Germans want to maintain their fascist empire!

    Britian will destroy your dreams... We have already started to do so on the 23rd of June.


    Ha ha I love it... you Euro-philes are on a hiding to nothing....
     
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    France, and even the whole Europe, have very compliquated relationship with arabs countries since centuries. There's not a camp who have to be blame and another who is the victim... It's a very simplistic and manichean way to see the realtionship between our people. Arabs attacked our countries centuries ago, they used to enslave european people too. They haven't been less bad than we. One have to notice that the relationship between our communities are very bad; deny it like we do is very dangerous.

    Why is it xenophobic? In Europe of nowdays, there's people who had all kind of origins; defending the right of the europeans citizens to leave peaceful and don't have to pay for illegal isn't racist, sorry.

    They force us. We are forced to welcome them or to pay to send them back to home; in all the case, they reffuse to obey to our Law and make us loose monney. Some of those who come illegally here end to have the nationality because they enter illegally - it's shame for those who respect our laws and wait in their native countries to get their french papers to come, like it is supposed to be done. Then, when they're waiting to go to a country, they're causing huge troubes to the original population. You just have to see the state of Calais nowdays - they made this city look like a 3th world country. We don't have to play the flagellants and let they destrom Eurppe because some people think we are guilty because of our past... It's unfonded and illogical
     
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    They're not, they're liars and dissemblers and you know it - and if you deny it you're one of them, as I've long suspected. The attack on the Belgian forensics lab yesterday? It isn't reported in today's BBC news?? All this kind of stuff is either published in an anodyne manner by the European MSM or not published at all.

    HTF do I know what the timeline is? :roll: But surely you can see it's all gonna come tumbling down as well as I can - or you're in denial? Don't keep shooting the messenger mate. And I'll ignore your interminable insults of my 'ignorance' and 'stupid posts' as not being worthy of an rational individual. They're childish - speaking of which . . .

    And you must be low teens :roll: Anyway I've had enough of your insults, and this is my final post to you.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hey that's nothing - I'm an incurable ignoramus. [​IMG]
     
  21. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Try reading a thousand years of European intellectual foundation for European unity. Your historical analphabetism is not surprising nor shocking. The world existed long before the Nazi's and so did the idea of European unity... Your weak ass attempt to paint the EU as a Nazi project is laughable and shows just how intellectually bankrupt your are. Come back to me when you leave the amoeba level of intellect.

    Whether you want to start with Guicciardini or Machiavelli... Or even earlier... Doesn't matter... We are talking about a millennia of European thought around the idea of European unity.
    Here is a book for you https://books.google.ie/books?hl=en...=y#v=onepage&q=european unity history&f=false

    Most of these books cost money... Come back to me when you fill your house with real books and you have read other than trash.
    Am I to believe you did more than 4 years of school let alone higher education? :roflol:

    - - - Updated - - -

    More Cerbian ignorance... We both know you cannot be cured. I have better things to do than chase your delusions.
     
  22. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Arabs haven't attacked Europeans for over a millennia... The last 500 years have been a one way street when it comes to Arab-European relations.
    Typical right wing victim complex... And that coming from a French... The number one colonial empire in brutality and assimilation.
    Go peddle your excuses to the uninformed.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good, off you go and do them, then - and take your time over it! Missing your trolling already. [​IMG]
     
  24. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have spent most my life reading history. I am probably less than half the age of you and I have read more than you ever have.
    Now go find some stupid old people you can scare with your fantasies:roflol:
     
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    You clearly still have more to read and lack a sense of impartiality or neutrality.
     

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