How the US Armed-up Syrian Jihadists

That's a good one.
Yeah, but I could invoke rights and freedom and practicing beliefs and religion is one of those.

 

The original Syrian Rebels were Jihadists - extremist militant Islamists who wanted strict sharia theocracy to be the law of the land/political system.

That there was any significant "moderate" rebel contingent was a blatant propaganda effort to try and cover up the fact that the US (in conjunction with Saud, Turkey and others) was arming extremist groups such as Al Qaeda/Al Nusra, Islamic Front, and others of the same ilk.

 

Look.....in the beginning we had a nice....STORE....and it was located in a town called Jordan.

This store and the town it was in was near another town where the town leaders were a bunch of dirt bags!!

They ran their town and stole the wealth of the people and would always fix elections so the same town leaders would win every time and the town leaders came for this one family that had been running the town for many decades.

So....the people in that town came over to our town and visited our STORE which was very well stocked with certain items that they had a hard time getting and we made sure that ONLY THE RIGHT PEOPLE got the right merchandise.

The goods they were buying...on credit as they had no money to pay us....were goods that when they used would help then get rid of that family that had stolen so much money from the towns folk and had fixed every election.

I was a....clerk at this...STORE....for quite awhile and then I went home and one day I am watching the news and I almost fell out of my chair when the leader of ANOTHER TOWN went on TV and announced he and his town were going to OVERTLY supply such merchandise we had in that other town been supplying via credit to the towns folk to help them get rid of their leader.

Understand while I and others like me were running the STORE....ONLY THE RIGHT PEOPLE GOT THE RIGHT MERCHANDISE.

AA

 

Welcome to the Obama/Hillary world.

 

Being an Islamic theocratic country,
can we call Saudi Arabia as a Jihadist country?

 

Funny you should ask that because Saudi Arabia is the cradle of Wahhabism, the renascence of which is the main threat to our civilization which are all facing now.

 

Saudi Arabia is no matter that we no longer need it'soil but our allied do....a very strategic point for us in the region.

AA

 

Okay....let me get this BS straight.

Russia agrees to ceasefire protocol.
Russia then helps Assad blow the hell out of everything.
Assad masses his troops and gets the advantage he wanted the whole time.
Russia then blames the U.S. and warns it not to attack Assads soldiers.

Am I missing something here?

Basically Russia cannot be trusted and is blatantly fighting a proxy war.

 

Yep. Between "Russia agrees to ceasefire protocol." and "Russia then helps Assad blow the hell out of everything." there should be "Terrorists violated ceasefire.". Then it makes much more sense.

 

Putin definitely cannot be trusted!!

AA

 

I think we have no choice but t remove Assad.

AA

 

And look what you did????? The choice was to reinstate him.

PS I've got more common sense than your top brass, Alpha - how does that make you feel?

 

You really want an answer to that?

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Best thing you can do is get your asses out of the region before you do any more damage.

 

At this point I think we need to kill him.

AA

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We will never leave.

We are no longer there for us....we are here FOR YOU!!

WE DON'T NEED THE OIL!!

You do.

AA

 

Believe it or not....some of us here actually mean what we type instead of saying what we are told.

 

Stop embarrassing yourself. Anyone with a modicum intelligence knows what's been going on in Syria. Alistair can freely say what you cannot. Furthermore there are still some honourable Americans, unlike you, who will actually tell the truth as it is. Kudos to a Green Beret.

How the US Armed-up Syrian Jihadists
https://consortiumnews.com/2016/09/29/how-the-us-armed-up-syrian-jihadists/

'No one on the ground believes in this mission or this effort”, a former Green Beret writes of America’s covert and clandestine programs to train and arm Syrian insurgents, “they know we are just training the next generation of jihadis, so they are sabotaging it by saying, ‘(*)(*)(*)(*) it, who cares?’”. “I don’t want to be responsible for Nusra guys saying they were trained by Americans,” the Green Beret added.

In a detailed report, US Special Forces Sabotage White House Policy gone Disastrously Wrong with Covert Ops in Syria, Jack Murphy, himself a former Green Beret (U.S. Special Forces), recounts a former CIA officer having told him how the “the Syria covert action program is [CIA Director John] Brennan’s baby …Brennan was the one who breathed life into the Syrian Task Force … John Brennan loved that regime-change bull(*)(*)(*)(*).”
Journalist James Foley shortly before he was executed by an Islamic State operative.

Journalist James Foley shortly before he was executed by an Islamic State operative.

In gist, Murphy tells the story of U.S. Special Forces under one Presidential authority, arming Syrian anti-ISIS forces, whilst the CIA, obsessed with overthrowing President Bashar al-Assad, and operating under a separate Presidential authority, conducts a separate and parallel program to arm anti-Assad insurgents.

Murphy’s report makes clear the CIA disdain for combatting ISIS (though this altered somewhat with the beheading of American journalist James Foley in August 2014): “With the CIA wanting little to do with anti-ISIS operations as they are focused on bringing down the Assad regime, the agency kicked the can over to 5th Special Forces Group. Basing themselves out of Jordan and Turkey” — operating under “military activities” authority, rather than under the CIA’s coveted Title 50 covert action authority.

The “untold story,” Murphy writes, is one of abuse, as well as bureaucratic infighting, which has only contributed to perpetuating the Syrian conflict.

But it is not the “turf wars,” nor the “abuse and waste,” which occupies the central part of Murphy’s long report, that truly matters; nor even the contradictory and self-defeating nature of U.S. objectives pursued. Rather, the report tells us quite plainly why the attempted ceasefires have failed (although this is not explicitly treated in the analysis), and it helps explain why parts of the U.S. Administration (Defense Secretary Ashton Carter and CIA Director Brenner) have declined to comply with President Obama’s will – as expressed in the diplomatic accord (the recent ceasefire) reached with the Russian Federation.

The story is much worse than that hinted in Murphy’s title: it underlies the present mess which constitutes relations between the U.S. and Russia, and the collapse of the ceasefire.

“The FSA [the alleged “moderates” of the Free Syria Army] made for a viable partner force for the CIA on the surface, as they were anti-regime, ostensibly having the same goal as the seventh floor at Langley” [the floor of the CIA headquarters occupied by the Director and his staff] – i.e. the ousting of President Assad.

But in practice, as Murphy states bluntly: “distinguishing between the FSA and al-Nusra is impossible, because they are virtually the same organization. As early as 2013, FSA commanders were defecting with their entire units to join al-Nusra. There, they still retain the FSA monicker, but it is merely for show, to give the appearance of secularism so they can maintain access to weaponry provided by the CIA and Saudi intelligence services. The reality is that the FSA is little more than a cover for the al-Qaeda-affiliated al-Nusra. …

“The fact that the FSA simply passed American-made weaponry off to al-Nusra is also unsurprising considering that the CIA’s vetting process of militias in Syria is lacklustre, consisting of little more than running traces in old databases. These traces rely on knowing the individuals’ real names in the first place, and assume that they were even fighting-age males when the data was collected by CTC [Counterterrorism Centre] years prior.”...

 

1) These "right people" that you suggest existed - simply do not. Who are these "right people/armed insurgents" who started the civil war.

2) How is it that all these Jihadists are armed with US weapons
3) Why is the US not able to separate the "moderates" from Al Nusra/Al Qaeda ... and if these "moderates"are taking direction from Al Nusra/Al Qaeda and share the same extremist strict sharia/theocracy ideology, how on God's green earth can you, with a straight fact, call these people moderates.

What exactly is the definition of "moderate" you are using ?

4) It is a well known fact that Saud was supplying the Islamic Front and other extremists with US weapons. Why ? because they told us so and Kerry has told us so and it has been well reported.

5) It is the people of Syria who support Assad that are the Moderates. How then do you justify violating international law by arming insurgents (regardless of whether or not they too are moderates) to kill these moderates ?

 

Yup - both are establishment insiders - puppets of the establishment financiers who want war so they can make more profits and who use fear ( caused by external threats that they had a hand in creating) to justify more war and the public financing of that war but, also to take away individual rights, freedoms and liberty of the public at large.

 

We call them a Jihadist country because they are the number one supporter of Jihadist terrorist groups. They teach their children to hate Christians and Jews. They promote and export this Saudi Brand of militant extremist ideology all over the world.

Taliban, Al Qaeda/Al Nusra, Islamic Front, Salafi (extremist groups in Syria and other places), ISIS, Boko Haram, Al Shabab and numerous other terrorist groups Pakistan, India and other countries ... all share the same Saudi inspired brand of militant Islamist extremism.

The society is a totalitarian nightmare with strict sharia police running around monitoring the peoples every action. They stone women for adultery. Women status is that of a sex slave (and a slave in general). Women can not be educated without permission from a man. No non Muslim churches are allowed nor freedom of religious expression. A Muslim is not allowed (on pain of death) to leave the faith. Gays are executed.

Saud is a Jihadist training center where children are brainwashed from birth in extremist militant ideology. SA funds, arms, and supports various terrorist groups including Al Qaeda for which they are currently getting sued (providing Obama's veto does not hold) for funding 911.

So Yes.. Saudi Arabia is a Jihadist Country.

 

So what about Wahhabism does it automatically translate towards jihads,
even if somebody would intrude your home you will instinctively defend it, right?

 

I never used the word Moderate?

Understand this.....if this problem is not solved soon....the end result will be us going back with ultimate force.

It is inevitable.

AA

 

A precursor towards Jihad I could say,
and I think as the caretaker of the faith they should make amends otherwise hatred will replace peace,
and a possibility is there that they will destroy and in return destroyed as well, they should embrace others so that others would embrace them in return.

 

Honestly the bloody ARROGANCE of the man!!!! It exemplifies one of my sigs, specifically There are none who do so much harm as those obsessed with doing good - especially when they're deluded.

Just (*)(*)(*)(*) off out of it and leave it to Russia - Putin knows what he's doing, you don't!.

 

You can’t understand ISIS if you don’t know the history of Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia. Read up about it before you post any more on the subject.

 

If we would just get out of the way the problem would have been solved long ago.

If Obama/Hillary had not armed the extremists to begin with (which lead to the creation of ISIS) there would not be a problem.