American teenagers' quiet despair

Thanks obama.

 

In yer wet wild dreams homestool..

 

Oblama be raising all da kids, yuck-yuck...

 

So - 'America, right or wrong!' in your book then? It's precisely that kind of small-town rationale which causes wars.

 

I haven't researched about it but I think the only religions which haven't been responsible for coercive prosthelytization are Buddhism, Hinduism,and Sikhism?

Agreed.

Well if there's any ambiguity in the relevant religious doctrines, and a follower decides to take the violent path, then the religion itself must bear the responsibility simply because it's er, ambiguous?

I believe that individuals' social mores are written into their DNA, and no amount of religious indoctrination will change their ways. For example, a psychopath will be a psychopath all his life; a bit like a paedophile will be a paedophile all his life.

You sort of hit the nail on the head with that statement: Tribalism is 'nationalism' by any other name, and we see it every day on football pitches, where partisanship generates an irrational enmity against the opposing side. All it needs to stir up hatred and unrest is to persuade any given 'tribe' that another 'tribe' is their enemy, then it becomes extremely easy to whip up hysteria into physical hostility. I guess it's a part of the human condition; a sort of inbuilt family or herd instinct? We are a weird species that's for sure, but none of it has anything to do with organized religion.

 

They're the lucky kids, who have intelligent parents, but they're in the minority. It shows itself better than I can articulate it in the movie Harrison Bergeron.

 

America is the most self critical nation in history

But we can do that ourself without instructions from foreigners like you

 

That's the first time I've ever been called a foreigner!

 

Like the man said, if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

 

All religions have their own version of good and evil, the same as all political ideologies. Of course we know who the enemy of the Nazis were, and the Communism claimed to be the enemy of Capitalism. There is always that Yin and Yang in order to encourage people to follow the deemed correct path.

Bertrand Russell did a great comparison in his History of Philosophy but I can't find it on the Internet, though I did discover this, from 1920...

“Among religions, Bolshevism is to be reckoned with Mohammedanism rather than with Christianity and Buddhism. Christianity and Buddhism are primarily personal religions, with mystical doctrines and a love of contemplation. Mohammedanism and Bolshevism are practical, social, unspiritual, concerned to win the empire of this world. Their founders would not have resisted the third of the temptations in the wilderness. What Mohammedanism did for the Arabs, Bolshevism may do for the Russians. As Ali went down before the politicians who only rallied to the Prophet after his success, so the genuine Communists may go down before those who are now rallying to the ranks of the Bolsheviks. If so, Asiatic empire with all its pomps and splendors may well be the next stage of development, and Communism may seem, in historical retrospect, as small a part of Bolshevism as abstinence from alcohol is of Mohammedanism.”

I don't know.

Yes, it's the old 'be true to your school ' thing and then continues into other areas. The missing link between civilized man and prehistoric man is probably us.

 

I don't think religions are immoral. People are.

 

A lot of these criticisms from those foreigners are taken under advisement and then filed in the circular bin.

But in fact Donald Trump used a slogan during his Presidential campaign which should satisfy all those who've been finding fault with America during the last couple of centuries. I'm confident he'll have their support.

 

He'll have mine; as a lifelong admirer of American I despair at what it is today, thanks to your 'born-to-rule' elitists over the last 4 decades? With all his shortcomings I had great faith in The Donald at first, but even he seems to be backsliding a bit when it comes to US foreign policy. I'll repeat what I've said before - Russia isn't your enemy, militant Islam is! If you had any sense you'd join forces with Putin because he knows what to do with terrorists, whereas us westerners don't.

 

Several, perhaps many, parts of the Old Testament are quite immoral.

 

That is an immature view. If you had a RADICAL CHRONIC illness you would understand.

 

You can analyze things however you like.

 

Thank you. I only wanted to correct the error of your claim that religion cannot be immoral, in practice or in theory.

 

Christianity isn't immoral because of how you analyze a book. Christians can be immoral. Faith is inanimate. It can't do anything without a person to do it.

 

Back in the 70's Playboy published an article by Alan Watts entitled "The Most Dangerous Book in the World". He was describing the bible, and he was right.

In the name of organized religion the Christians brought us the Crusades. Other Christians destroyed the library at Alexandria.

The record is very clear that organized religion promotes superstition, ignorance, violence and killing.

You rationalize it your way, and I'll rationalize it my way. I'm still trying to decide whether religion in society is a net positive, or a net negative.

 

As usual, russian trolls trying to portray the usa as decadent and morally bankrupt. They ignore that their president is a murderer, and russia itself governed by greedy oligarchs...

 

The biggest problem in Sweden is the tolerant idiots. Those who bring hordes of savages. These savages breed like cockroaches, unlike the Swedes. In 20 years - Sweden will be similar to the South African Republic, where white genocide will be conducted. Malmö will be everywhere.

 

Being tolerant to a fault doesn't mean we are idiots ...................... it means we are naïve. In the US people are naïve to believe that more guns will create fewer shootings. That's crazy. In Sweden, we naïvely believe that anyone who has the opportunity to have a better life will accept and cherish it. That's also crazy. The bottom line is that Americans keep buying more guns and having more shootings - and in Sweden, we keep taking in "hoards of savages" and keep experiencing more destruction. Both of us are committing national suicide.

 

"Tolerance" is the medical term - for the inability of an organism to resist a foreign body. Complete "tolerance" - is death.

At the domestic level, it looks like this. Hypocrisy is also a big problem in Western countries.

 

A problem that we have in Sweden (one I am sure you've observed) is that we believe that the definition of "racism" is a white man's unfair treatment for someone who is other than white. Sometimes it is only necessary to disagree with one of them. So in order to prove to the world (and to the migrants) that we are not racist we herd our people into inclosures (rock concerts, public toilets, parks, swimming pools, refugee centres, or anywhere after dark), force them to drop their britches, bend over, and invite every savage from the most primitive of cultures to "have a go at us". I guess we showed 'em we ain't racists, huh!