American teenagers' quiet despair

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put aside childish things.
     
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    Yes I know that!! :roll: But think of the deaths, mutilations and misery it has caused - and still is?? Not to mention the millions of traumatised-for-life children due to church-based paedophilia? Think about it?
     
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    We can also think about the many millions of deaths caused by non-religious ideologies. Blaming the ills of the world on religion is mistaken and illogical.

    Certainly there have been terrible religious leaders, as well as political leaders, etc., but that's largely because we often don't see the good most of these people do. They don't make the headlines but instead quietly work behind the scenes, doing some excellent work and bringing aid and solace to those who need it.

    There is an anti religious fervor throughout much of the western world, with the exception of Islam, but those who ignore religion tend to put there faith elsewhere, and often in more dangerous areas.
     
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    Why is it in leftist Europe there is less violence :p

    As a Christian I don't think the problems have anything to do with faith. I think we are simply a very selfish and violent people pretending to be Christian.
     
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    Yes, but two wrongs don't make a right? And 'religious' people are supposed to be kind and caring enough to not harm others, which you know as well as I do includes killing and abusing, and 'religion' has been and still is responsible for plenty of that . . . which, when you think about it, makes them hypocrites?

    There's no requirement to be religious in order to 'do good'; what's needed is common humanity and empathy, neither of which have anything whatsoever to do with religion.
     
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    None of what I wrote has anything to do with 'faith' either (whether you're 'a Christian' or not), it's about societal change and anarchism. Also I don't know about other Euro countries but here in the UK there's plenty of violence; but essentially that's because of an endemic leftist bent together with ludicrously lenient laws and a penal system which is more like a holiday camp - which is why there's such a high demand to go there.
     
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    @Fred C Dobs

    If you can correct the format error I'll be able to reply?
     
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    About the "effective judicial system" was especially ridiculous. You will tell it in Guantanamo.

     
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    20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

    21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

    22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

    23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

    24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

    25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:


    27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.


    28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

    29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

    30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

    31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

    32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

    Romans 1
     
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    WTF - shouldn't that be on Religion?
     
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    And yet...

    http://www.thejournal.ie/ban-running-schoolyard-1500352-Jun2014/

    https://www.independent.ie/life/fam...think-on-schoolyard-running-ban-25968869.html

    Like I wrote women have little to do with it... most of these rules were put on by pinkmen wanting to be politically correct. They are all about "safety" and "sensibility" so that children's games will be pleasant for adults rather than the children. Here one 6-y old kid was accused of sexual aggression because he planted a peck on a fellow schoolgirl's cheek. Stop trying to make a miso out of me, Scarlet, please.

    Our hypersensibilization of late is a direct consequence of the feminization of our society, in which many males feel useless.

    Feminity like you expressed is charming to me. It isn't what I denounce; What I denounce is the feminization of our society. Our sexual difference is to be celebrated - I have no problems with it whatsoever.

    Yep, yep... add to that the increased isolation kids face today, their lack of interactive skill and reliance on impersonal meeting sites electronically accessed makes them a lonely generation, ill-equipped for life in a community.
     
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    The cult of individualism is hardly a liberal goal, Mac.

    And nazi-style fascism is still taught... in military camps.
     
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    These kids are not being taught to be indeviduals but merely turned and milled to be gears in a machine

    Thats why liberal professors throw a student out of their college class for thinking outside the group on “climate change”

    Sure if a child xan be sexually confused into thinking they are a different sex the lib teachers are happy to support a sex change operation and unisex bathrooms

    But thats about all the individualism the left is willing to put up with
     
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    Like at in a workplace? That's terrible, Mac.

    If they do that, then they are no longer "liberals". "Liberal" implicates an open mind. That's not the attitude of open people to ban, interdict and prevent things - to the contrary. A true liberal will be much more libertarian than authoritarian. I am a true liberal.

    :alcoholic: Mix up things just a bit more and we'll end up with illegal abortion clinics in the men's bathrooms teaching communism while weapons will be checked in the woman's one.
     
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    Of course they are liberals

    No law says a liberal in 2018 mist be the same as one in 1776

    But the left has other names for itself if you dont like liberal

    Try “progressive”

    And now socialist is becoming acceptable to same libs
     
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    Bullying is usually found to be the cause when children are drawn to such despair they commit suicide. Have some compassion.
     
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    In the bad old days of conservative America bullies were often dealt with by physical force

    The got beat up or at least stood up to and bloodied enough to make them back off

    But in liberal run schools fighting is not allowed so children never learn how to defend themselves
     
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    teaching them to improve on it. I probably was thinking about the UK on this and ways have been brought in to change this. For instance when kids start secondary school they have a senior mentor who will be there for them if they have any problems including bullying.

    Oh it is much easier to get rid of a bully and no need to become one yourself. My daughter just stood up in the playground and said 'go away you big bully' and all her class gathered round and said the same thing. She was never bullied again. When she was older she met the girl again She discovered as is often the problem that she had a lot to cope with at home. Children tend to imitate.
     
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    Defending yourself by fighting back at a bully is wrong only in lib la la land

    Your daughter fought back even if it did not come to blows

    What would she have done without the best case scenario?

    What if the bully did not stop and the other children did not stand behind her?

    You dont have tonanswer a what if

    But its worth considering
     
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    Hey, here's a little hint for your uptight anal retention, the sexual revolution in the USA started back when great granny was doing the Charleston and acting the flapper...Free range children, stupidest bumper sticker pejorative I've ever heard.....Yeah I allow my child to free range to the park a mile up the road, *******ned idiots...
     
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    I usually sue bullies that way it makes the parents aware of what they are ignoring...
     
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    Where do you find 6-year old lawyers for 6-year old clients?
     
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    Prove it then, it should be very easy....Most teachers have the time to cover the required curriculum, how are they gonna find time to shove all that other propaganda? But then again you never define which form of socialist you know they are teaching the kids to be...Socialism is like the file name then you have subfiles of socialism,, are you familiar with those categorizations or do you just generally throw out rhetoric?
     
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    Do you think that was widespread?

    Maybe among the upper echelon of Boston but not in most of America

    Loose sexual morals can be traced back to the Old Testiment if you want to go that far

    But still mostly among the corrupt elite
     

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