More than 500 guns seized from Southern California homes

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    He's going to jail because it was illegal for him to have thew guns.
    The gun laws enacted with the intent to prevent him from getting the guns failed, and miserably.
     
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    Unsupportable nonsense.
    As per the norm.
     
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    Incorrect.
    You only need do this if you produce the gun wit the intent to sell it.
     
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    But... the large majority of people who want to ban guns of any kind are Democrats.
     
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    And the majority of neo-Nazis seem to be Trump supporters, but that doesn't meant that the majority of Trump supporters are neo-Nazis.
     
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    Fact remains: if someone wants to ban a gun, he's almost assuredly a Democrat.
     
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    Which isn't the same as saying that if you are a Democrat, you are almost assuredly wanting to ban guns. That's just like saying, fact remains: If someone is a neo-Nazi, they are almost assuredly a Trump supporter.
     
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    Nothing you said here addresses, much less negates, the truth of my statement:
    If someone wants to ban a gun, he's almost assuredly a Democrat.

    You apparently agree this is true.
     
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    And I just stated that that is a stupid law because a felon is not prohibited from purchasing and possessing other inanimate objects like a knife, vehicle, rope, 2x4, sledge hammer, etc. that can be used to commit a crime and injure or kill someone.

    Do you understand now?
     
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    Yes and it's hard to rob a bank with a rope or commit school shootings with a sledgehammer.
     
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    And yet, 70% of violent crime does not involve a gun.
     
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    It's easy to kill someone with a knife, vehicle, 2x4, sledge hammer, brick, rope, etc.

    Do you understand now????
     
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    It is a conclusion drawn based on all currently available evidence. As to the matter of the time of the acquisition, is it really being asserted by yourself that any firearms possessed prior to the felony conviction, would not be confiscated afterward?
     
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    A convicted felon who managed to acquire more than five hundred firearms in the state of California was allowed bond? Not only allowed, but was actually able to post it, and is free in society once again?
     
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    It looks like he may be a former NRA board member. If so that may explain some "connections". The board member lives in Agua Dulce and has a felony conviction for possession of a machine gun in 1983.
     
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    Anyone who can afford 550 odd guns is going to be well off and probably lives in a very expensive house. If so, he is unlikely to try and flee. Anyone know if Manual Fernandez is famous?
     
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    You might have just answered the question I just asked :)
     
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    Oh look : Some people in this thread are going to hate this
    http://nraontherecord.org/manny-fernandez/

    Manny Fernandez
    Former Board Member
    Biography

    Longtime gun rights lobbyist Manuel “Manny” Fernandez is a graduate of California State University, and once lived in Cuba. He is also the founder of the state organization, Californians Against Corruption (CAC), which came under fire for violations of campaign law during the 1990s. In 2008, Fernandez received $25,500 in compensation from the National Rifle Association.
     
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    Devoid of anything else of value to bring to the discussion, you made this up.[/QUOTE]
     
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    According to the LA Times, a source familiar with the investigation says the owner appears to be a firearms collector rather than someone with plans to use the guns for violence.

    Agents with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) are examining the weapons - some appear to be decades old - in an attempt to trace their origin.”

    Looking at the pictures, most of these weapons appear to be old mausers, mosins, Springfield’s and the like,
    I don’t know, this guy may have committed a felony late in life after collecting these. I also wouldn’t put it past a ex wife to have turned him in for spite. (An unidentified female acquaintance might be a new girlfriend, just sayin)
    In any case, if convicted, he was required to transfer the firearms to a qualified owner.
    But it doesn’t appear to be the case of a gunrunner, more like a woman scorned. Right, Bowerbird?
    By the way, this was taken from the BBC website. CNN only reported a felon with 500 guns.....color me shocked.
     
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    Lol no it's not. It would be if I tried to sell or transfer it. You have no idea what you're talking about.

    Which doesnt actually stop anyone from doing anything unlike the armed guards and rather limited supply of materials for nukes.
     
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    My man got caught.
    We were arming-up for the rebellion.
    American Civil War II
    I guess I can go back to flipping burgers.
     
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    As long as your not a convicted felon, (what this thread was about) and it's a non-NFA firearm yes. Tool up that blank AR-15 receiver and put a sear switch on it and your looking at jail time even if you don't try to sell it or transfer it.
     
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    The war on drugs from the aspect of punishing drug users did not work. No president is perfect, the law was established in good faith that it would work but it did not. Just like punishing legal gun owners with stricter laws to try and prevent criminals from doing bad stuff will not work. We should learn from the mistakes of the past instead of repeating them.
     
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    Only if someone catches you, the point being that law doesn't work because guns are simple tools easily made from commonly available materials unlike nukes which require particular expertise and materials that even when not under guard 24/7 only occur occasionally in nature.

    Owning the auto sear would be enough actually
     

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