Mexico Moves to Disband Caravan of Illegal Aliens After Being Blasted By President Trump on Twitter

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  1. jgoins

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    I don't live under Mexican law. What Mexico classifies them as has no bearing on what their status in the US is

    Some people will be checked at the US bridge.

    some will be apprehended crossing the US river and taken to a US center.

    Neither of these cases has anyone be deemed an illegal alien. A US judge has to do that. Not a Mexican judge.[/QUOTE]

    No, if they come here illegally then they are illegals, what is so difficult to understand.
     
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    I would like to handle it differenty

    Send them back to mexico and let the mexican government deal with them

    But these migrants from central america have been coached by anti American lawyers to say they are seeking assylum due to a very stupid law passed by congress

    So the best thing is not not allow them on US soil in the first place
     
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    All of these migrants will be clurching a child and claim a legal right to enter the US

    We need the wall

    But congress needs to repeal the refugee loophole in the law
     
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    I would like to handle it differenty

    Send them back to mexico and let the mexican government deal with them

    But these migrants from central america have been coached by anti American lawyers to say they are seeking assylum due to a very stupid law passed by congress

    So the best thing is not not allow them on US soil in the first place[/QUOTE]

    If we turn them back to Mexico the same day what will stop them from turning around and walking back across the border again? If we take them back to Guatemala then it would take them longer to come back. Rinse repeat, rinse repeat as long as it takes days or weeks for them to come back.
     
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    Nothing

    Thats why we need the wall along with security cameras and an expanded border patrol force to catch them every place and time they try to enter

    And their time is limited

    As central americans pile up across the border in mexico and unable to enter the US someone in mexico has to feed them

    Pretty soon mexico will stop allowing them into their country and deport the ones already here
     
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    What do we do about the ones we just turn around while we are building the wall and other security? Just turning them around at the border would create a mass of people at our border looking for an opening they can go through. Sooner or later any dam would burst if enough water builds up behind it. If we take them back to Guatemala it would take them time to come back giving us more time to deal with them.
     
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    If they are in the US already the courts say they have a right to remain till an immigration judge signs a deportation order

    That law needs to change

    If we could pack them on a ship and take them back to their country that would be ok with me

    But so much is tied up by lawyers and the courts that nothing is ever simple
     
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    So why are you so worried if they are 1000 miles away. They have broken no US laws.
     
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    The GOP had two years to do that.

    What are you people doing in Washington?
     
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    We will see how the 2018 midterm election goes

    If repubs hold the house is the big question

    If they do I think the trump agenda will kick into high gear

    But if not...
     
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    This entire fiasco, while being an obvious trap set by the left, is certainly a clever one, although the timing may not come off as it was planned to. I've yet to see an angle where conservatives come off looking righteous in their reaction to this play by the left. What I'm observing so far, is ludicrous unrealistic outrage from the right. I'm astounded at some of the posts I've seen about this so called "caravan". Calling for these people to be harmed or even killed... seriously? I'm quite ashamed with this show of stupidity from the right on this. You cannot on one hand, call the left stupid while on the other hand, call for the death of these innocent manipulatees. They are only doing what they are being told is a way to a better life. Who of us can fault them for that? I've seen posts calling for everything from internment to bombing of these people, and it just makes me cringe every time I read such stupidity. The right is falling into a trap masterfully set by the left here. What is the best position for conservatives to take here? IMO, this play by the left calls for compassion and restraint from the right, not aggression and hate. The high road is the path to take with this one. Otherwise, we all look like idiots. Hey, just calling it like I see it.
     
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    OK...what is the best position for conservatives to take?
     
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    I was hoping the subsequent 3 sentences preceded by "IMO" generally states my view. To be specific, I think Conservatives need to STOP calling for harm to come to these people. It's not the puppets, but the puppeteers that need our focus. Many of the posts I see coming from the right are simply way out of bounds IMO.
     
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    Thanks for the laughs..
     
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    Well I was thinking in terms of policy.
     
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    I don't know what happened but the above that was quoted as mine was never any of my posts.
     
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    The simplest solution would be to just shoot them until they stop coming but the people would never allow that.
     
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    If I knew who the criminals are I would not mind

    But America does not need the rest of them either so the problem of how to stop illegal migration would still remain
     
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    Okay..... in terms of policy, it is my opinion that we need to secure our border FIRST by any non-violent means necessary. Then, either use our existing laws or simply change them to be something that makes the most sense to the most voters. Acceptance of immigrants is a huge part of this country's foundation. Immigration policy simply needs to be tweaked to both reflect the security demanded by our citizens, and to include a reasonable amount of people in. Also... IMO, assimilation by education should be a prerequisite to being awarded citizenship. The "anchor baby" loophole should also be closed.
     
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    So...you are basically in favor of what Trump is trying to do now?
     
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    In general, yes. But I will most likely NOT be in favor of his rhetoric or even his method of handling the current crisis. It is most certainly going to be an incendiary issue for days or weeks to come. We live in interesting times. Trying times, but interesting none the less. BTW, I 100% believe the so called "caravan" was spawned and planned by left wing operatives, with covert funding from a leftist org or moneybags. A coincidence doesn't just happen with this sort of timing.
     
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    Use the photos of them marching in Mexico carrying their home countries flags. Why would they proudly wave the flag of a country that persecuted them? Did the Jews wave Nazi flags when they fled Germany? Asylum denied.
     
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    If we return them to Guatemala then we would have time to work on the other problems while we take them back and the length of time it would take them to come back. We cannot just turn them around at the border because they would just look for a different way in.
     
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    Not for long

    The only readon mexico allows them in is the expectation that they will be our problem that they will become our problem

    If not then the mexicans are in big trouble
     

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