Bubba Wallace Booed at NASCAR All-Star Open, Cheered After Crash

That's what you tell yourself.

 

You bring up lots of good points in your post that I'm going to check out. But, one thing got my attention: the Neanderthal DNA that Whites and Asians both have.
I read once that Chinese people invented gunpowder hundreds of years ago. They mostly used it for mundane purposes. But, when Europeans learned about this Chinese invention, they used it to conquer the world.
Do you believe it was this use of gunpowder/weapons that has helped Whites rule the world so far? What if they hadn't come across gunpowder? Would their Neanderthal DNA still been of help to them?
What do you think?

 

Gee. Thanks for the advice.

 

No problem. Maybe you can use it - I mean, these truths work for people of ANY race. And after all - isn't that what you want - absolute financial equality of possibilities and success based on personal achievement and not race?

Glad to be of service.

 

Advice well given, I suspect advice not well received.

 

I've used my own system and I've done very well so far.

 

It's not about being successful, many black folks have achieved success inspite of what we as a people have had to endure. It's easy to sit back and say, "oh I have faced this and I have faced that and I am still successful". What was done to black folks in this country for well over 400yrs is a disgrace. Yea I know other people were slaves and Jim Crow wasn't that big of a deal and blah, blah, blah.

 

Move on already then.

 

It's amusing how they like to tell African-American people how to succeed, when we know good and well they would wither under the obstacles we have to face. I just read their posts and smile.

 

Can't move on since restitution hasn't been given for the wrong that were committed and we still have systematic racism.

 

40th highest watched sporting event lol

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2019/01/top-sports-audiences-2018-list/

 

I agree, LBJ stated,

 

Seriously? You have just demonstrated that nothing will satisfy you.

 

Sure it will.

 

BLM is a slogan as well as an organization. It's entirely possible to support the slogan and disagree with the organization. Read what they say they're about...

https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

I don't like this...

"We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and 'villages' that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable."​

... but I support the idea that "black lives matter."

BLM reminds me of the ideologues who set up a woman's tv channel years ago. They were licking their chops at the chance to "educate" women. Blab away they did to an ever shrinking audience. In desperation, they put on Mary Tyler Moore and the ratings jumped. They were shocked to say the least. Let's say they were educated.

Most people, I submit, are hopelessly heterosexual and because of our culture want to live with one member of the opposite sex. They aren't looking to undermine the nuclear family. What we see changing are family roles because women are no longer happy if they're not equals.

People are now convinced we have a race problem and a poverty problem. They want to open the doors for people of color, and they know there's a lot of poor white people.

Artificial intelligence, high-speed wireless, and quantum computing are going to eliminate a lot of jobs. Many of today's 25-year-olds will see their jobs swept away by change over the next couple of decades. The old formula of working to get even the basics needs reconsidering. I don't think let-them-starve works. What would?

BLM isn't going to tell us how to solve our problems.

 

Bubba Wallace has become one of the most influential athletes in the world over the past few months, having led the effort to ban the Confederate flag from NASCAR events.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mo...nt-to-new-nascar-fans/ar-BB16SDpT?li=BB15ms5q

 

If your point is that it's much easier to type in than to live it, well yeah. It took me maybe three minutes to type all that out (Yeah, I type pretty fast) compared to the forty years since I started working to do it. But the thing is, when you have people saying that living by the rules where you practice delayed gratification, being reliable, and knowing the truth about how math works is something that "The Other" does - well, tell me flat out, without equivocation or whataboutism: Is that any way for a culture to be successful? Or is it any way for individuals as a whole to be successful?

I didn't buy drugs or alcohol when I was younger because I was spending all of it on books and college supplies. I invested in myself today because I knew it would pay off tomorrow. This is something taught in many cultures. Based on the links I provided, this appears to not be a thing with blacks. Again, serious question asked without snark: Don't you see that as a huge problem? I would be frightened out of my mind if leaders in my own culture advocated what I linked to.

Heck, let's take a step back and look at the bigger picture: Jews came here with nothing. The Boat People too. Native Americans had almost everything stolen from them. All three groups, victims of bigotry, racism, oppression, and you name it. But what are they doing right that Blacks as a whole aren't? The first three at least valued family groups first. Oh yeah, Black families at the beginning of the Diaspora were broken up, but thing is, by the time you get to the 1900's, families were stable again. They aren't now if you have 70% of kids that don't live with dads or even God help them, know who dad is. The next most important thing was keeping money within the community. The Jews and Asians were especially good at that. Next? They put a premium on education for their kids, working non-stop, and saving for the future. Native Americans for various reasons are late to the game with casinos but even there they are investing in their own communities and there's a push for education. Blacks? Not doing so good at that - in fact, they're apparently saying that doing what the Jews and the Asians did, and what Native Americans are doing now, is racist. That's - I dunno. It's a self-destructive cultural policy.

You've accurately described the other huge problem in the culture: Looking continuously to the past instead of planning for the future. Slavery was damned bad. Jim Crow too. But the problem is that in the here and now, in the future, your issue isn't what happened in the past but how are you gonna plan for the future? The Jews and the Boat people said screw it, move forward. Blacks as a whole apparently haven't. You're not dealing with Jim Crow now, save by constantly reminding yourself of it. In fact, the way you keep reminding yourself and others of it, it must be living rent-free in your head and you are indeed a victim of Jim Crow still and because you choose to - because you can't let it go. And again, serious question - it seems that Blacks are doing nothing but demand reparations for the past, the past, the past. Suppose you don't get reparations. What's Plan B? Near as I can tell - there isn't any. I said I'm not Black but it seems to me that if I were, I would be living my life as if I was never gonna get them and maybe be pleasantly surprised if I did, but not caring overmuch if I didn't because at the end of the day I'd be a success anyway. It's almost as if - unlike the Jews and Asians who started their own businesses, and the Native Americans who just wanted to be left alone, Blacks as a whole looked to government to solve their problems for them. That's kind of a problem if you want people to develop some group sense of self-control.

The issue isn't than bad things were done to blacks, I absolutely agree with you. I've seen the ways they were treated at school and beyond the same way I was. There definitely is a problem with police brutality. I've never argued against the fact that something needs to be done. There are issues with racism. There are problems blacks face. The problem is - and this is the big difference between every culture out there save Blacks in the US - is that they never developed a victim mentality. And I'd say the Jews and Native Americans had it much worse than Blacks. Hell, we annihilated parts of Asia and their immigrants came over here and made the system work for them. I'd say we owe Asians that came here reparations as there's still some that were alive today when we napalmed their country - but they'd be insulted by the offer, I suspect. I read what some blacks say about white stereotypes and behavior and how they should avoid them and ignoring the fact that it made them successful. I say screw it, use what made them successful too. Because again - it worked for the Jews, it worked for the Asians, it is currently working for Native Americans - and not using it if you're black because you don't like whitey is just plain insanity.

I'll say it again. The only things a black kid has to do to become a success is stay in school, get good grades, graduate, not have a kid until they are an adult and can afford it, stay far afield of the justice system (which means not putting yourself in a position where you even look suspicious which I'll admit is unfair but can be done by avoiding things like gangs and suchlike, especially bad influences) and getting a job. These are NOT things that are any more difficult to do for blacks than for any other race. I teach in a place that pretty much IS a ghetto and I see it happen all the time.

 

That would be small step in the right direction, but the truth is that it's not enough. A 50-year-old white racist might be more bother than they're worth to a lot of businesses. Ditto a person of color who unnecessarily disturbs the workplace.

We're not going to have peace with blacks getting locked up for economic crimes, or even just checked more often than whites and get into the criminal justice system at a greater rate.

 

So cuomo needs to be drawn and quartered then?

 

A smart, good looking, young, rich, black man is attractive to a lot of white women. Racist white guys don't like that. I'm not surprised at some of the people bashing him in this thread. Writ large, NASCAR wants this guy to pull in new fans.

 

I made it through a few pages and gave up. Bubba was not the first nor will he be the last Nascar driver booed. He also is not and will not be the first Nascar driver who crashed and heard cheers;. It is very apparent many posting have never watched, or been to a Nascar race.

 

I posted earlier that people cheer when a boxer gets knocked out. What is the difference?

 

And your system is?

I mean, I'm not expecting an answer but I'll play along.

 

Ah, yes--the "him, too" defense. Do you live in New York? Cuomo is their business. Trump is ours.

Canada with about one-ninth of our population has this situation...

 

Ah yes. The canada defense, canada is their business, cuomo is ours.