Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’ President repeatedly disparaged war dead

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  1. kriman

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    Therefore he has no responsibility for the deficit? Some have claimed that his military spending was a reason for the big deficit. You can't have it both ways.
     
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    Who are you going to believe? John Bolton who was there, or the four unnamed sources that an Atlantic "journalist" pulled out of his ass?
     
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    How does what others say have anything to do with what I say?
     
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    If congress funds the military. How is Trump responsible for the military causing the deficit? Or since Trump has no responsibility for the budget, how does he have any responsibility for any part of the deficit?
     
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    Im wondering if this journalist can be prosecuted at this point. This might be the worst case of professional misconduct I've ever seen.
     
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    He'd sue Atlantic Magazine, the story was by the editor-in-chief, he's sue for libel

    Because, if the story is not true, it is libel of the most severe kind, and the story is being carried by a number of news sources, now, including AP.

    There is no way in well the other news sources would carry this story if it had not been sourced at least three different sources. That's how they operate.

    In fact, AP confirmed a few salient aspects of the story, the one about Kelly and Trump saying 'I don't get it, what's in it for them".
    Therefore, given what Trump has said publicly, thus far, given the additional items confirmed by AP, and LaPorta, the story is authentic.

    Trump better sue, because this story is gaining tremendous traction.

    But, that's it, he CAN'T sue, because you can't sue if a story is true. Depositions would reveal the truth.

    In fact, we have Marla Maple's prenup, where it stipulated that if Tiffany joined the military, Marla's alimony support would be terminated.

    These facts are totally in character with this president, given his statements on McCain and the Kahn family, his wanting to cover up the USS McCain, which was to be in the backround of some photo op he was going to be in. He tweeted that McCain was a loser. This who Trump is. You can't deny it.

    Check mate. end of game, Trump has been busted. He's a low life and is unfit to be commander-in-chief.
     
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    This is make believe. Where's the substantiation aside from the imagination of his adversaries?
     
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    How do you explain John Bolton's comments? He was there and hates Trump.
     
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    Except of course when they don't. For example: Sandmann... and many others. Your whole post is nothing more than spinning in order to convince yourself and others.
     
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    Jon Harwood? hahahahha

    Who can believe that clown? Didn't the Russians already highligbt via the Podesta Emails that Hardwood is a joke and can't be trusted to do real journalism? I am embarrassed for you for bringing him up
     
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    Apologies. I didn't realize you held that franchise on PF.
     
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    When did I say Trump is responsible for the military causing the deficit? Seems to me you’re trying to deflect from the fact that you didn’t know Congress didn’t include both the House AND the Senate.
     
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    The article has been debunked.
     
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    It appears that I know more about the Constitution than you. Earlier I said that the house, senate and the president have to approve the budget. Also, as I explained, most of the budget actually originates in the executive department. The house does not create that budget all by themselves. The house only starts the formal process of originating and approving a budget.

    Finally again. If what you say is true, Trump has absolutely nothing to do with the deficit. Do you really want to stand by your contention that only the house funds the military?
     
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    Hahaha...for the second time, I never stated only the house funds the military. Stop saying something that isn’t true. I stated CONGRESS funds the military. Again...Congress is the House AND the Senate. Please try to keep up.
     
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    We know why they do this, it works. All the same people who fell for the Trump-Russian collusion lies, are quick to fall for these lies. It's amazing how gullible some people are.
     
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    Oh John Bolton didn't believe it? Oh.. what a relief. Because we all know what John Bolton believes is like it were coming from Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, or Ben Franklin...

    My God... what kind of country has Trump made us become!
     
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    OK. I give you that one. I should have said Congress. But let me tell you how the budget works, specifically the military budget works.

    It starts with the military. Each unit submits their budget request. It flows up the echelons to DOD and the president. It is then handed over the house. The house has no obligation to even consider it. The house puts together their budget and it goes to the senate. Generally it goes back and forth from the house to the senate. It is then approved or vetoed by the president. I know the military is initially involved because I have prepared budgets for my units.

    However. Now again. Do you believe the president has no responsibility for the deficit? I would really like to see how you answer that question.
     
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    John Bolton was there. John Bolton hates Trump. He said he did not hear Trump say any such thing and he doubted that Trump did say it. He was there when the decision was made about making the trip to the second cemetery. He said Gen Kelly recommended they not fly to the second cemetery because the weather was bad.
     
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    Some dude probably heard part of the conversation and Trump was talking about the Nazis. I'm sure the left is suddenly going to be loving on Nazis now.
     
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    So? Bolton hates everybody! And add the fact that everybody (except his most faithful inner loyalists) hates Trump ... even his own family (oh... and also except Nancy Pelosi)... and you just as well could have said "the Sun will come up tomorrow"
     
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    Then you, Golem, tell us Who exactly heard President Trump say these things. Com'on oh purveyor of truth and morality!
     
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    Don't blame Lincoln, Trump, Washington and Franklin for your short comings
     
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