Italy shaken by brutal beating death of young Black man

They immidiately went off topic to justify killing him. That is clear and obvious. I am bored with White Nationalists.

In another thread you speak of your bias against poor black people not being because of the 'colour' of their skin but being to do with their culture. As far back as about 2010 it was noticed that the new things which racists were trying to do was to say it was 'cultural' why they were against someone, not the colour of their skin. No one was fooled.

I am not going to waste any more of my time with people trying to spread their racism. I will be glad when they move back to Stormfront and other places rather than pushing it on this board.

 

Floyd was an American citizen killed by American police officers.
At this point I don't know if Willy Duarte was an Italian citizen, his family is originally from the Cape Verde Islands, he was born in Rome.
Fact is he was killed by thugs, not by the police. These are two very different scenarios that have almost nothing in common.
Italy is a G7 country and not "somewhere between a First World and Second World country", what nonsense.
Plus, it's extremely weird that this thread has more or less turned into a debate on American domestic issues. If anyone's interested in debating American domestic politics, why not start a thread or use one the countless ones that are here already. Too diffcult to stay on topic, it seems.

 

sounds like the caught them, sounds like it was a fight that got deadly, not sure any of the details about what started the fight or anything else

"Four Italians have been arrested, including two brothers with police records and a martial arts background, but to date prosecutors haven’t indicated if the slaying was racially motivated."

 

Duarte's parents immigrated from Cape Verde, Africa. The people there have an ancestry of mostly mixed-race "creole", part European-Portugese and African slave. Most are Catholic. Cape Verde is one of the most advanced states in Africa in terms of literacy and democracy. Young Mr. Duarte had recently obtained legal Italian citizenship. Getting into a bar/restaurant fight with other young men over girls sadly cut his life short. Seems like he was a really nice kid.

 

I have never spoken about my bias against poor black people because none exists. I have written about some of the cultural issues in poor black communities such as unequal educational standards and an abundance of fatherless homes which can lead to higher rates of crime. Facts are not racist. We as a society can level the field in terms of educational opportunity, but some issues need to be solved within and by the community.

 

while that is true, wrongful death is wrong no mater what - but I do agree one is more likely to be killed by ones own race...

 

Only a bleeding heart leftie liberal can take a word that predates any multiculturalism in UK/EU and call it racist...

 

To simplify it. If you separate Americans into black and white, and discover there to be five to six times as many whites as blacks. If whites were as likely to commit murder as blacks. Then it stands to reason that for every white person murdered by a black, there would be five or six black people murdered by whites. But in fact, for ever black person murdered by a white, there are two to three white people murdered by blacks. That's an offset of equity by about fifteen times. Furthermore, within their own races, even though there are five to six times as many whites as blacks, the number murdered within each race by their own kind is about three thousand per year. Reason would dictate that the number of whites murdered by whites would be six times higher than blacks murdered by blacks. But it is the same. Which means again that blacks murder one another at five or six times the rate that whites murder whites.

Your rationale is skewed because you suggest that because there are so many whites, that if you are to be murdered, it will more likely be by a white person. That's like saying that because there are so many people , if you are going to be murdered, it's likely to be by a person. Well duh!

 

So then Italians are territorial and Americans are racist?

 

Trumpery goes international.

 

My fathers side of my Family are English and my Mothers side are all Polish Jews...

Pray tell how I am a White Nationalist?

 

@OP

Sorry to hear. I like to be patient and wait and see what the story is, but any young person being murdered is a tragedy.

 

A Jedi master mysteriously waves a hand while intoning, "This is NOT the 13 percent of the U.S. population routinely committing fifty percent of the nation's violent crimes." Something like that?

 

The poster was not condoning murder. That's one of the problems with 'discusing' any racial issue with a vast number of people from the Political Left . . . they have a distressing tendency to fling about such assertions with wild abandon . . . and then point a trembling finger of outrage rightward and bellow, "See? See? Conservatives never want to 'discus' racial issues!" Yeah . . . go figure.

 

You're providing facts and (gasp!) math to folks whose responses here are emotional.

 

Was the man for whom this thread was started murdered by other blacks? Your whataboutism is irrelevant.

 

Irrelevant whataboutism. This thread is about the brutal murder of a black man.

You should start a thread on the South African farmers.

 

Please provide proof.

From the OP's article:

"Four Italians have been arrested, including two brothers with police records and a martial arts background, but to date prosecutors haven’t indicated if the slaying was racially motivated."

It seems like the only exercise we're getting these days is jumping to conclusions.

 

Ask yourself. Zapytaj siebie.

 

Welcome to Trump's America, where hate is good.

 

Um ... are you sure this is the forum for you? Not that there aren't extremists here already, but man! that's a lot of hate you're expressing.

 

The op suggests that blacks are victims of society, and used George Floyd as an example. Our point, or my point is that George Floyd wasn't murdered. And not only are blacks not victims of society, but rather are victimizers of society as well as of themselves. These are observable facts in contrast to the distorted emotional appeal being bandied about. Blacks commit at least six times the crimes as whites in America, they murder one another at six times the rate that whites murder whites, they murder whites at fifteen times the rate that whites murder blacks, and they fight with Police and get themselves killed at three times the rate as whites. Then after all this violent and criminal behavior they and their groupies have the nerve to accuse whites, society, the Police and the criminal justice system, and commence to rioting in the streets like icing on the cake of their criminal lifestyle. I spit it out because it is rotten.

Granted this has nothing to do with the needless murder of a young man in Italy who did the noble thing by coming to the defense of a friend. But the op linked these matters. I merely separated them for the cause of truth and freedom, as should it always be.

 

I'm not an extremist... economic migrants have no place in the EU or UK and only harm legitimate asylum seekers claims..

Salvini will be back in power soon to sort the problem out in Italy and Boris is scrapping the EU Human Rights Act so we can deport them all back to wherever next year, so it will all work out in our favour in the end...

 

If he were, we certainly would never had heard about this bar fight, excepting a small blurb in Colleferro, Italy's local news. Neither would Premier Giuseppe Conte and Italy’s interior minister have attended the boy's funeral.

We're in a period of some might fine virtue signalling and gaslighting which is a grand feature of post-Modern Era. Your skin color is now your biggest asset or it's your most shameful failure. That's real progress!!!

 

I thought is was about the murder of a man. But, silly me, I live in the new historical dark ages which we called The Enlightenment, when people thought that reason was more important than emotions over the fad-and-fancy of the day.