Will the activist Roberts' court undo another precedent?

Loss of bodily autonomy makes a person a slave...the slaves had no right to bodily autonomy which made them slaves.


EXACTLY what Anti-Choicers want to do to women...

 

Don't be ridiculous. By that argument the loss of 2nd Amendment rights makes a person a slave.

 

You obviously have no idea what bodily autonomy is.....maybe you should look it up before commenting...

Your right to bodily autonomy means no one can use your body to sustain their life....the example is that no one can force you to give them a body part like a kidney or heart to sustain their life, you own your body.

A fetus canNOT use another's body to sustain it's life....


You may not understand the concept because you believe women who have consensual sex should be punished....

 

Why not? And don't bring up the ridiculous comparison to forcing someone to give you a kidney.

 

In addition to my last response... the Covid vaccine is about saving lives...

 

The Democrats extreme position on abortion probably cost them the battleground states in in 2016. You reap what you sow.

 

Translation: Inconvenient and disruptive to your desired narrative...

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
A fetus canNOT use another's body to sustain it's life....

Because NO one has that right....

It's not ridiculous IF you know what bodily autonomy means....you don't seem to....

 

I don't know what something is that you've made up simply for argument purposes.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
A fetus canNOT use another's body to sustain it's life....


""""Dayton3 said: ↑
Why not?"""""


FoxHastings : Because NO one has that right....

Dayton3 :""And don't bring up the ridiculous comparison to forcing someone to give you a kidney."""


It's not ridiculous IF you know what bodily autonomy means....you don't seem to....

Why TF don't you look it up.

But meanwhile explain to me why you think a person can be forced to give another body parts to sustain their life....Is that a common thing?

 

I never suggested a person could do that. If I were going to make that argument I would say that someone should donate a kidney for me.

 

But you say a fetus can do that...it CAN use another's body to sustain it's life....a right NO ONE ELSE HAS...


Have you looked up "bodily autonomy" yet or do you prefer the old "head in sand" routine?

 

I prefer the breeze from you spinning

 

Projection. You apparently know little about the court and especially the Burger court.

 

I accept your surrender....

 

No see the crux of the issue is that we believe life begins at conception. In which case it’s murder to abort.

Your side has enjoyed a SCOTUS decision which declared they’re not a life until they’re viable outside the womb. I think that’s about to change.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Says one thing...

...then says another, the opposite.

AND furthers the fact that Anti-Choicers want to punish women for having consensual sex.

BTW, what YOU believe hardly merits taking away people's rights...

Learn biology..women cannot CHOOSE to get pregnant.

And why you think one choice eliminates all other choices is really weird..

Why does getting pregnant destroy women's rights?

Is it a crime??

There is NO child involved in abortion.

People have every right to shirk responsibility...it's not a crime.

But some women know it's a responsible thing to do when you don't want or can't afford a kid..

…... try to get a deduction on your taxes for a fetus...

Then do your civic duty and report it to the police...

Nice big DODGE of what I posted

RvW was not decided on "they're not a life"....

LOL, ya, that's what Anti-Choicers have been saying for almost 50 years !!! LOL....it hasn't changed....and not as many people as you think feel great about destroying women's rights and turning them into slaves who committed the "crime" of having consensual sex and getting pregnant...

 

Lol I love this. So if a male gets a woman pregnant it’s perfectly fine for her to force him to become a slave even if he doesn’t want the baby. Right?

So you don’t actually have a problem with forcing someone to become a parent-slave because of a pregnancy... as long as it’s not the woman... right?

So let’s go ahead and end your faux outrage over that now.

Second of all RvW does not allow abortions to be banned until AFTER the baby is viable in the mother’s womb. The implication being at that point it becomes a life and you women can no longer murder it. However, they’re going to change that ideology very soon with Barrett on the court.

 

It is neither constitutional nor a right. There is nothing in the constitution supporting it and something can only be a right if nobody else is hurt by it. It is a court decision. Nothing more.

 

An objective moral principle is universal. Respect for human life is as objective and universal as you can ever hope to get.

I think that women's autonomy must definitely be respected. But the fetus does become a human person while in the women's uterus. And that must be respected also. Science sets the moment at some point after 22 weeks. This fact must be taken into account.

 

LOL.. You're the guy demanding that start decisis is the standard. Of course precedent gets overturned when the decisions are infamous. Dredd required an actual amendment to keep democrats from having slaves. Given your current ramblings here though, had the 13th not been rammed down democrats' throats, they would still be trying to keep slaves. Oh, and perhaps you should remind uncle Joe that when he suggests amendments aren't permanent that his rhetoric puts this back in play. What is it with democrats and their need for oppressing others?

 

Legal opinion changes. The fun part is this language you use here. "sensible", "science based" "moral principles". The most antithetical words in a democrat's vocabulary. Nice swing though...I literally laughed.

 

Yes, but what about those Anti-Choicers, the people who have no respect for women's lives?

A human fetus is always human but it does NOT become a legal person until birth.

No, science does not set the time a fetus becomes a person.


Viability is usually considered at 23-24 weeks....viability, not personhood.

It is...abortion is banned after viability. but that doesn't mean the fetus has rights, it means it has protections.

 

It would not surprise me if the SC overruled Roe. The five votes are there...

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
FoxHastings said: ↑
Says one thing...

...then says another, the opposite.

AND furthers the fact that Anti-Choicers want to punish women for having consensual sex.

BTW, what YOU believe hardly merits taking away people's rights...

Learn biology..women cannot CHOOSE to get pregnant.

And why you think one choice eliminates all other choices is really weird..

Why does getting pregnant destroy women's rights?

Is it a crime??

There is NO child involved in abortion.

People have every right to shirk responsibility...it's not a crime.

But some women know it's a responsible thing to do when you don't want or can't afford a kid..





…... try to get a deduction on your taxes for a fetus...






Then do your civic duty and report it to the police...






Nice big DODGE of what I posted

RvW was not decided on "they're not a life"....




LOL, ya, that's what Anti-Choicers have been saying for almost 50 years !!! LOL....it hasn't changed....and not as many people as you think feel great about destroying women's rights and turning them into slaves who committed the "crime" of having consensual sex and getting pregnant...

OMGAWD! WHERE TF did you get THAT from the post you quoted? SERIOUSLY POINT IT OUT...or you will lead me to believe you are hallucinating

You seem quite confused....

WRONG AGAIN..WOW...that isn't the implication. The fact is because it can survive outside the womb IF it was removed from the woman..
It's always a live...

It's not murder and yes, if a woman's life is in danger or the fetus is deformed it can be killed after 23 weeks

Yup, the Anti-Choicers have been saying "soon" since 1973 LOL, ya, that's what Anti-Choicers have been saying for almost 50 years !!! LOL....it hasn't changed....and not as many people as you think feel great about destroying women's rights and turning them into slaves who committed the "crime" of having consensual sex and getting pregnant...