Rockets Fired Between Gaza and Tel Aviv

I was replying to a member who is seeking to understand the crudities in the OT, .. crudities spoken by the OT prophets of the 'One True God', whom Mohamet himself ("the last prophet of God" according to the Koran) recognized, and who Hamas also recognize.

Therefore Hamas''s take on God must be examined alongside the OT's (ie the Jewish Bible) take on God.

You have to understand that point: Hamas, zionists and Chistians all worship the God of Abraham, but draw different conclusions, leading to the slaughter of children today.

 

Britain is a British state, America is an American state, Canada is a Canadian state, why is Israel a Jewish State?

 

you speaking English?

 

Are you saying it is not a fact that there is no such thing as an Israeli National?

 

What is your problem with Muslim or Jewish black and gay satanists?

 

You are correct: Britain (two-faced as usual in Arab affairs) was the villain in the crisis:

Suez Crisis - Wikipedia


"U.S. president Dwight D. Eisenhower had strongly warned Britain not to invade; he threatened serious damage to the British financial system by selling the US government's pound sterling bonds. Historians conclude the crisis "signified the end of Great Britain's role as one of the world's major powers"

I accept that point...they were ALL involved.

...supported Israel AND Arab nations? well...only so far...

United Nations Security Council Resolution 242 - Wikipedia

"A memorandum from the President's Special Assistant, Walt Rostow, to President Johnson.........
The tough question is whether we'd force Israel back to 4 June borders if the Arabs accepted terms that amounted to an honest peace settlement. Secretary Rusk told the Yugoslav Foreign Minister: 'The US had no problem with frontiers as they existed before the outbreak of hostilities. If we are talking about national frontiers—in a state of peace—then we will work toward restoring them.' But we all know that could lead to a tangle with the Israelis."

Indeed!

Yes Eleanor no doubt had a hand in creating both the UN and Israel....but did she realize what would be the consequences of the enforced adoption of the veto in the UNSC (which I presume she would have been against)?

 

The entirety of your post was to engage in an ad hominem attack on Israeli Jews. Oh I have only started with you. Hang on a second the other line is ringing.

No no I speak a savage language. Excuse me now I have to go back and finish boiling a big plump gentile in my pot while other Zionist Jews dance around it singing the horah.

Do keep up with the analogies. Sorry for the typos.

 

must be later there....

 

All you need to see is that column one is Jewish population. Colum two is non Jewish - translation Arabs, Christians and other religious orders. Their demographics fall under religious affiliations, and not by race. That is because the father of both Islam and Judaism was Abraham who was a Syrian. There is not ancestry difference between Jews and Arabs. As a matter of fact, there are only two races described in the Bible. That is Jews and Gentiles. Islam is not discussed in the Bible because Mahammad did not found the religion until nearly a century after the death of Christ. But I digress. Column three is a total population of Israel including the West Banks and Gaza City. the fourth column is the percentage Israel that the Jews make up. Now you can spin that any way that you want, but it will still come out the same. Jews will not be a minority in their own country. And as I have continually pointed out the so-called Palestinians do not really exist. They are nothing more then Syrian and Egyptian Arabs. Now, put that in your pipe and smoke it. We can now move on to things that will not tax your mental process so much. I am sure that I will correspond with you on other subjects, but just not on this issue.

 

Thank you. I am having fun on this thread. To answer your last question, yes. That woman knew exactly what she was doing and she is forever remembered for it.

 

Lol I have no glasses tonight.

 

Don't want to tell us "exactly what she was doing" and what her views on the veto were?

Note: "Doc" Evatt, former High Court judge of Australia, one of the contributors to the founding UN document in 1946, resisted adoption of the veto, as did many of the delegates from the smaller nations.

 

How is that?

 

Who wants hegemony in the Middle East?
1 - Arabs
2 - Muslims

Having a Jewish state in the 'holy land' is a big shock to the sensibilities
of the people who think they are 'holy.'

 

Who said I had a problem with them? Finish it Mr. Hillman stop deflecting from the question I asked. You presume to lecture Jews they are undemocratic because they express their collective identity though a state....so finish it. Do you live side by side with Jews Muslins, gay Satanists? Are you the model of democratic presumption you pose or just an arrogant bigot?

You asked me why do Jews have a state? You need to ask? Really? Are you asking or making a rhetorical statement?

Mr. Hillman before you took it upon yourself to deny the right of Jews to a state why did you not make an effort to find out why they created one? Or oh go on now Mr. Hillman is it you could care less..... but hey now I can answer keeping in mind your true colours ...you know the ones that slipped out with the contemptuous Zionist reference...lol.

The Jewish collective identity has many components. Israel is to q Jew what the United Kingdom is to Anglicans, the Vatican City is to Catholics and Muslim states are for Muslims or the Punjab is to Siekhs.

However Israel is also to Jews what Ireland is for Irish people all over the world and in Eire or Italy for Italians, Ukraine for Ukrainians, Estonia for Estonians.

Italy is to an Italian American as to what Israel is to me as a Jewish Canadian.

My loyalty is to Canada before Israel but I have a cultural connection to Israel.

Israel was created as an existential response. Jews faced extinction from 3500 years of hatred, discrimination and pogroms from states who did not separate their religions from governments. Those religions both Christian and Muslim expressed through their state governments that Jews could not own land,vote. The Christian religion taught Jewx were the descendants of the killers of Christ and would go to hell and the Koran refers to us as monkeys. Go read the Hamas Charter,

Muslim governments enforced dhimmitude against Jews stating among other things theycould not own land and must pay a monthly fee to stay alive. Then you ask why Jews created a state? It was precisely because it was the only way to assure the state would serve to protect and not destroy Jews.

If the world had no religious discrimination against Jewsand was democratic Jews would not have needed a state. Do you ok u ask a woman who us abused why she goes to a woman's shelter and call it sexist for doing what it does?

JEWS did not create it to hate others it was created to protect Jews from countries that tried to extinguish Jews

The Jewish state provides all the rights of a democracy to Muslims that Jewish Israelis have but no Jew has ever had in a Muslim state.

So you needed to ask? Really?

 

Show where I have told Jews where they can live and how, I do not argue strawmen, even angry Jewish ones!

 

No, another Strawman. Since most of the rest of your post is built on this falsehood I suggest you answer it yourself!

 

Your words Mr.Hillman stated Jews stole land from Israel and should not be a Jewish state because that is undemocratic. Your words Mr. Hillman.

By the way Mr. Hillman youur colours are showing again....am I an angry Jewish man Mr. Hillman or just an angry man? Hey now Mr. Hillman you really think I am angry? You use the exclamation marks not me.

I think you mean I am uppity Mr. Hillman. You bet.

 

Good night Mr. Hillman. Watch out. I visit in dreams.

 

Here are your words Mr. Hillman.

 

I am no victim Mr. Hillman. On the other hand your continuing to respond would seem to suggest you feel victimized and so might be over compensating?

Mr. Hillman I did reproduce your words that stated what I challenged.

By the way the golf reference was a symbolic analogy. Do keep up Mr. Hillman. I now do mean it. Good night and boooooooooo.

 

So does that make you a Jew hunter in your area ? lol

 

lol what's your problem with Edomites ?

 

I don't know what point you are trying to make here, there is an Israeli citizenship, the nationality/religion as much as I can remember is more complicated because of the Arabs mainly who got offended...something like that, but who cares ? you think you can argue Israel out of existence ? you should stick to hunting Jews mate....

 

Hi Gilos hope you are safe. Now why would I want to hunt Jews, is there not enough violence going on already?