Can people really be non-binary?

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Can people really be non-binary?

  1. no

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  2. yes

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Diversity is NOT strength, it's weakness.

    When the members of your society are working at cross purposes, you have nothing. They could be all the colours on earth, but they MUST be on the same page culturally, morally, and in every meaningful way.
     
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    When they start out on the First World Problems Virtue Signalling path, they can't imagine being challenged on their position. The prospect doesn't even occur to them ... so hubristic is their drive. Thus they go forth without armour or ammo, assuming their catch cries are self-evident truths.
     
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    Unless you're .. I dunno .. an Indian running a mammoth tech multinational, or a Nigerian surgeon, or a Ghanian lawyer, or a Korean business owner, or a Chinese property developer. Apart from all those non-white people way ahead of whites on American wealth stats, you may have something. Something about thirty years out of date :p
     
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  4. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I never was on it. Lol. You have an extremely annoying habit of deliberately and actively trying to not understand someone's meaning.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nah.

    You’re another who goes out of their way to not look for the meaning.

    Last try …..

    Two men holding hands is NOT indoctrination and it’s NOT forcing it down your throat. It’s two men enjoying each other’s company.

    Time after time we hear about how you don’t want it shoved in your face. Nobody is coming to your house and demanding you have gay sex.

    outside of a few radical kooks looking for every reason to get attention, IE attempting to force a photog to take a gay couple as clients for their wedding, nobody is really shoving it down your throat.

    I live in one of the gayest communities in the country. I’ve never met a single one of them who wants someone who hates them to bake their cake. Lol.

    Children telling other children about their two moms is not shoving it in your face.

    Little Timmy wearing a skirt to school because that’s what makes him happy, is not shoving it in your face.
     
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    I've assumed that it was because all of mainstream culture affirms their prejudices, so they can't see outside of that to actually think about those issues.
     
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    Are you okay?
     
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    No.

    When someone makes a claim that seems either outrageous or unsupported, I naturally inquire about it.

    "Well, here in Florida, it may be illegal for a five year old to tell his classmates he has two dads."

    Those are your words. I think it was perfectly legitimate to ask about it. Let's face it, it's not a statement that, given the facts of the law, lend itself to easy understanding.
     
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    That too :p

    It starts with the assumption of moral high ground, teamed with lack of worldliness. They're the Snake Dancing Baptists of the 21stC ... hidden in the virtual Appalachians that is MSM.
     
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    Lol. See you in another issue, Mike.
     
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    I’m fantastic! I’m proud that my gay and trans friends are done being poked at, laughed at, marginalized, accused of all sorts of hateful and disgusting behaviors and are fighting for their right to exist openly.

    All things considered, it’s going very well.

    Thanks for asking, Crank.
     
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    So previously they didn't exist? Can you explain please.
     
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    Does having surgery to have your penis removed and remaining tissue altrered to make it look like sort of vagina turn a man into a woman? Can you give a straight answer or will you dodge?
     
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    Sorry, if you can’t follow the conversation, I’m not sure how to help. These people are not going back into the closet and they aren’t grooming your kids to be gay. Get over it.
     
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    It helps a person with the disconnect feel whole. How does it harm you that a person who had self loathing, now has self love? Isn’t that a good thing? Don’t we want more happy people and less misery?
     
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    I'll ask again since you want to join in:

    Does having surgery to have your penis removed and remaining tissue altered to make it look like sort of vagina turn a man into a woman? Can you give a straight answer or will you dodge?
     
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    Not a biological one. In all other ways, yes.

    Do they have ovaries? No. Does having ovaries make someone a woman?

    Is this person a woman?


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    Yes biological the only measure. What "other ways", define what is a man.

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    Is it a woman pretending to me a man or an actual man. You can make yourself appear any way you want.
     
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    It depends on what you mean by "man" and "woman", and there's no guarantee that everyone means the same thing.
     
  20. dairyair

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    There is other ways to define people. It's not a binary world entirely.

    ...
    Male, female and transgender brains
    “The male and female brain have structural differences,” he says. Men and women tend to have different volumes in certain areas of the brain.

    “When we look at the transgender brain, we see that the brain resembles the gender that the person identifies as,” Dr. Altinay says. For example, a person who is born with a penis but ends up identifying as a female often actually has some of the structural characteristics of a “female” brain.
    https://health.clevelandclinic.org/research-on-the-transgender-brain-what-you-should-know/
     
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    Exactly. In one way, people who have perfect brain chemistry and have no need for any medication, are super lucky. In another way, it closes their minds to the very real life issues that people without perfect balance face every day.

    So, it’s hard to get through.

    As a historical always, the younger generates it, and these people will die off. At one point, the “normal” people thought Beatles haircuts were going to destroy society.
     
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    Sex, drugs, and rock and roll were going to halt America back in the 60s.
    Now those kids from the 60s are the ones complaining about non binary people and trying to stop people from being people.
     
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    OK what is a woman?
     
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    Definition of woman


    1a : an adult female person
    b : a woman belonging to a particular category (as by birth, residence, membership, or occupation) —usually used in combination councilwoman
    2 : womankind
    3 : distinctively feminine nature : womanliness
    4 : a woman who is a servant or personal attendant
    5a chiefly dialectal : wife
    b : mistress
    c : girlfriend sense 2
    6 : a woman who is extremely fond of or devoted to something specified I'm a chocolate woman through and through, but one bite of West's banana pudding cupcake and I was sold.— Hattie Brown Garrow
     
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    I think gender identity exists on a spectrum and of course you can't be exactly 50.0000% masculine. But by the same token most people aren't 100.00000% masculine or 100.00000% feminine. You are too hyperfocused on precision here.
     
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