Biden's speech worked: Nearly 6 in 10 Americans agree MAGA is a threat to democracy

Probably not!


But; “I” am happy for you!

 

Don't be happy for me. Be mad that the people your listening to isn't giving you the news you should be getting. We expect that from Russia, N. Korea, Cuba, not America.

 

False, The upward trajectory of the wealth gap started with Reagan, and has continued, exponentially, under all presidents, and Biden is just the irreversible extension of that upward trend. The root cause is neoliberalism, which accelerated under Reagan.

Hate crimes spiked under Trump.

https://www.newsweek.com/hate-crimes-under-trump-surged-nearly-20-percent-says-fbi-report-1547870

There is a labor shortage in America. We need more immigrants, not less.

Oh bullshit.

But what did we experience under Trump, you know,
Trump, the most corrupt, lying, cheating, vile perverted and corrupt man to ever occupy the office, who has been accused by 25 women of sexual misconduct, one of rape while underage. But, that aside:

While Trump was negotiating a deal with China, Ivanka got millions of dollars worth of Trademarks from China which she used to pedal China made products to China. Jared got a $500,000,000 bailout on a failing Real Estate deal in Manhattan, from QATAR, and just before Trump left office, Jared was shuttling back and forth from Saudi Arabia, whereby he secured a $2,000,000,000 investment from the Saudis in a Fund managed by Jared, noting that both Jared and Ivanka were White House officials while they profited via connections garnered from Trump while he was president, not to mention Mnuchin, who received $1,000,000,000 from the Saudis, as well, and speaking of Mnuchin:

Mnuchin is Keeping $500 Billion in Bailout Funds Secret
https://www.citizen.org/news/keeping-500-billion-in-bailout-funds-secret/

Steven Mnuchin, Treasury Secretary:

• After committing himself to the divestment of his share in a movie company, Mnuchin “sold” it to his fiancée (now wife) Louise Linton.
• In his first six months as Treasury Secretary, Mnuchin spent $1 million flying on government jets. He would have used one for his honeymoon if department lawyers hadn’t warned against it.
• Incorporated and unincorporated businesses and America’s richest families received huge benefits from the 2017 tax cut bill. To make those benefits seem more reasonable and affordable, the Trump administration and congressional Republicans claimed to be closing loopholes at the same time. Since the law’s enactment, the Treasury Department has taken steps to significantly reopen two key loopholes.
• That rule-writing process was overseen by a top Mnuchin deputy, Chip Harter, who spent years at the accounting and consulting firm PricewaterhouseCoopers and the law firm Baker McKenzie helping companies take advantage of such tax-avoidance techniques.
• With the assistance of lobbyists from Harter’s former firms, a group of foreign-owned multinational corporations—including the Swiss food giant Nestlé and the Dutch chemical manufacturer LyondellBasell—won a concession that will re-legitimize a complex currency-accounting ploy as a way to reduce their U.S. taxes.
• In similar fashion, a group of foreign-owned banks—including Credit Suisse and Barclays—succeeded in exempting a large class of bank transactions from the supposed crackdown. Many tax experts, including some at Treasury itself, insisted that the law did not give the department the authority to grant such an exemption. Harter dismissed their arguments. Erika Nijenhuis of the law firm Cleary Gottlieb was one of the lobbyists who made the banks’ case in private meetings with top Treasury officials; in September 2019, Nijenhuis joined the department’s Office of Tax Policy, which continues to work on these rules. As a result of Treasury’s decisions, the foreign banks stand to gain as much as $50 billion, and the loophole-closing measure is likely to collect only a small fraction of the $150 billion in new revenues originally projected by Congress.
• Altogether, federal tax collection efforts are running tens of billions of dollars behind Congress’s original projections, significantly inflating the cost of the 2017 tax bill. In 2018, the United States had the sharpest decline in tax revenues of any of the 36 OECD nations.

• This Is Still Happening: Steven Mnuchin (Slate)
• Mnuchin: Dodd-Frank Reform “Number One Priority” (Americans for Tax Reform)
• Trump administration calls for rolling back Obama-era financial regulations (Washington Post)
• The Travels Of Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin (CREW)
• Treasury Completes Rules for Opportunity Zone Tax Breaks (New York Times)
• Trump Asked That Confirmation of I.R.S. Counsel Be a Priority (New York Times)
• R.S. Memo Undercuts Mnuchin on Withholding Trump’s Tax Returns (New York Times)
• Trump’s handpicked IRS chief and IRS legal counsel both have ties to Trump businesses (The Week)
• IRS whistleblower said to report Treasury political appointee might have tried to interfere in audit of Trump or Pence (Washington Post)
• Mnuchin seeks delay of proposed disclosure of Secret Service spending on presidential travel until after election (Washington Post)
• Steven Mnuchin ran a “Foreclosure Machine” and other fun facts about Trump’s shortlist for Treasury (Vanity Fair)
• Trump Treasury ripped its tax cut recommendations straight from the Chamber Of Commerce (Intercept)
• Symbol of ’80s Greed Stands to Profit From Trump Tax Break for Poor Areas (New York Times)
• Trump Tax Break That Benefited the Rich Is Being Investigated (New York Times)
• Milken Had Key Allies in Pardon Bid: Trump’s Inner Circle (New York Times)
• Broken Promises: More Special Interest Breaks and Loopholes Under the New Tax Law (Center for American Progress)
• How Big Companies Won New Tax Breaks From the Trump Administration (New York Times)
• Steve Mnuchin’s reign of destruction: From Wall Street to Trump’s Treasury (Salon)

Wilbur Ross, Secy Of Commerce. Ross handled Trump's real estate deals at Cyprus Bank, Russian division.

• New Details About Wilbur Ross’ Business Point To Pattern Of Grifting (Forbes)
• SEC fines Wilbur Ross’ firm $2.3 million over fees (CNBC)
• Wilbur Ross (Revolving Door Project Swamp Tour)
• The Wilbur Ross Scandal Isn’t About Russia, It’s About Corruption (Intercept)
• The Case Of Wilbur Ross’ Phantom $2 Billion (Forbes)
• Wilbur Ross Scheduled Meetings With Chevron, Boeing Despite Conflicts Of Interest (Forbes)
• Ross shorted Russian-linked shipping company ahead of Paradise Papers (ICIJ)
• Commerce Secretary’s Offshore Ties to Putin ‘Cronies’ (New York Times)
• How Wilbur Ross made money from a story exposing his business ties to the Kremlin (Quartz)
• New Memo Reveals the Census Question Was Added to Boost White Voting Power (Slate)
• The company linking Wilbur Ross to Putin cronies has a key role in Trump’s energy plan

Trump's commerce secretary oversaw Russia deal while at Bank of Cyprus
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ank-of-cyprus-donald-trump-commerce-secretary

Under Trump, Farm Subsidies Soared and the Rich Got Richer

https://www.ewg.org/interactive-maps/2021-farm-subsidies-ballooned-under-trump/

Mapping Trump's Corruption
https://prospect.org/mapping-corruption-interactive[/QUOTE]

 

I'm not going to try and answer all that. But I'll start with the wealth gap started with Reagan. True Reagan gave good tax breaks to big business to stimulate the economy and that it did, with around 15 million jobs. But the big wage gap started under Carter. His deregulation devastated the unions. His administration saw the biggest loss of good paying union jobs ever. To top that off, Carter made a regulation that no Federal Employee could strike over wages or hours.It was under that regulation that caused Reagan to fire the Air Traffic Controllers. Those two things not only brought down wages, but kept wages from increasing as they normally would.


redstate.com › laborunionreport › 2011/01/13The Decline of Unions, Part One: President Jimmy Carter ...
He was a Jimmy Carter appointee. Myths Vs. Facts Despite the myth that Reagan is the one that devastated private-sector unions, no amount of so-called “union-busting” that Reagan

 

Let's take this one. "Incorporated and unincorporated businesses and America’s richest families received huge benefits from the 2017 tax cut bill. To make those benefits seem more reasonable and affordable, the Trump administration and congressional Republicans claimed to be closing loopholes at the same time. Since the law’s enactment, the Treasury Department has taken steps to significantly reopen two key loopholes."

Pelosi stated that those tax cuts to the rich and all we got was scraps from the floor. Not true at all. It was those tax cuts that gave America a hot economy and also gave the middle class their largest gain ever.

There are more jobs than people out of work, something the American economy has never experienced before
https://www.cnbc.com/.../there-are-more-jobs-than-people...

Pay gains under Trump best since the Great Recession
www.cnbc.com › 2018/01/31 › pay-gains-under-trump...

Jan 31, 2018 - Workers looking for fatter paychecks had their best year in 2017 since before the financial crisis, according to a government report Wednesday.

Overlooked on economy? Rising paychecks for blue-collar ...
www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/08/14/blue...
Aug 14, 2019 • Blue-collar path to solid paycheck. And as blue-collar workers have seen their wallets thicken, highly educated white-collar workers’ wages have grown more modestly.

• Pay
gains under Trump best since the Great Recession
www.cnbc.com/2018/01/31/pay-gains-under-trumps...
Jan 31, 2018 • President Donald Trump's first full year in office saw gains that easily outdistanced any year for his predecessor, Barack Obama, whose best showing was the 2.2 percent increases in 2016 and 2014. Six of Obama's eight years in office saw gains of 2 percent or less.


https://www.atr.org/thanks-trump-median-household-income-highest-level-ever

Real median household income has grown by $4,144 or 6.8 percent since President Trump took office, according to an op-ed published in the Wall Street Journal.

This data is based on a report released by Sentier Research analyzing the Census Bureau’s monthly Current Population Survey.
As noted in the op-ed, authored by Stephen Moore, real median household income is at an all-time high:
“Real median household income—the amount earned by those in the very middle—hit $65,084 (in 2019 dollars) for the 12 months ending in July. That’s the highest level ever and a gain of $4,144, or 6.8%, since Mr. Trump took office. By comparison, during 7½ years under President Obama—starting from the end of the recession in June 2009 through January 2017—the median household income rose by only about $1,000.”
The below chart highlights the strong Trump wage growth.



Economy & Politics: Income Gap Grows under Trump, Obama — but ...
www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/income-gap-growth...
Indeed, in a bit more than half of his term, Trump’s $5,003 mountain of growth in median household income is 346 percent higher than Bush-Obama’s $1,444 molehill of marginal middle-class earnings. https://www.nationalreview.com/.../income-gap-growth.../

 

Probably because trump has no real presidential accomplishments, unless you call trying to overturn an election he lost or stealing classified materials to sell to his foreign cronies accomplishments.
There are some things that trump every other aspect of a potus, and trump’s bigoted demagoguery, lack of character and seditious actions far outweigh anything positive he may have done while in power.

 

I would say that the number is a lot higher now.
Watching trump pander to qanon and threatening violence if he is held to account for his crimes, more and more decent Americans are finally fed up with the antics of a malignant narcissist who puts himself above his country.

 

??? Not true that Trump was legitimately elected or Biden was legitimately elected? Or both?

 

It's sickeningly in America, in any year, and in 2022 stunningly tragic.

 

AKA corruption bigly!

 

I wasn't paying close enough attention. I didn't notice that you were dredging up 2016. I'm surprised that only 61% of American's believe that tRaitor tRump was legitimately elected in 16. I'm not surprised that only 57% of American's believe that President Biden was legitimately elected in 20, considering that so many tRumpublicans falsely believe the election was stolen.

 

All of the policies you refer to, are the result of neoliberal thinking. Read Thom Hartmann's book on The Hidden History Of Neoliberalism.

Neoliberalism, not 'republicans or democrats' is the root of the problem, but that philosophy was accelerated under Reagan.

 

Well, even if we overlook the unknown accuracy of the count, JUST all the unconstitutional changes to election law by anyone other than the state legislature AND the deep state federal governments hand in creating the Alpha bank, Steele Dossier and other anti Trump false propaganda, AND the Hunter Laptop is Russian propaganda story AND the unconstitutional involvement of Facebook money in running local elections.... yeah, Biden is the illegitimate President of a stolen election.

 

Yeah, "double downed" under Clinton and "Trump was the first" President to oppose.

 

Not at all Biden is the 1st president to oppose it to any great extent .

Trump forwarded it with the massive tax cut for rich people And his his many repeals of pro environmental executive orders

 

You are tall on conspiracy theories but short on evidence against Biden

 

OR factor in that, that’s ALL right wing HORSESHIT then it becomes evident that you live in a world of alternative facts. There’s no arguing with that.

 

What silliness. Your author disagrees.

 

I used the word ALL on purpose.

 

Trump did that, even to get a bible photo op.... it was crazy

I think if Biden gassed and used rubber bullets on peaceful protesters, the right would get it

 

In bold, not a ****in' chance..

 

they would get it when Biden did it, but you're right, they still would not get it when Trump did it

 

These are ALL facts.
the unconstitutional changes to election law by anyone other than the state legislature AND the deep state federal governments hand in creating the Alpha bank, Steele Dossier and other anti Trump false propaganda, AND the Hunter Laptop is Russian propaganda story AND the unconstitutional involvement of Facebook money in running local elections....

If you can, with some specificity, pick any one of the above and at least refer to some info that show otherwise

 

Those are not facts. They are right wing propaganda. I could with some specificity, but I don’t want to play.

 

RIDICULOUS? REALLY. THE LEFT FEMALES WANT CONTROL OF THEIR BODIES. OK, THEN I CAN GIVE THAT TO THEM BY REPORTING THE RAPE, SHE IS TAKEN TO A HOSPITAL TO GATHER DNA EVIDENCE ON THE ATTACKER. AT THE SAME TIME. NO ONE CAN SAY THE EGG HAS BEEN FERTILIZED AT THAT TIME. SO LEGALLY IN ALL STATES SHE CAN BE CLEANED OUT, SO NO PREGNANCY CAN HAPPEN. IF SHE DECIDES (TO NOT) REPORT THE RAPE, THEN IT IS HER. BUT NOW SHE MAY BE PREGANT, AND HAS TO DEAL WITH IT. ALSO IF SHE WERE TAKING THE PILL, OR USING A DIOFRAM, BEFORE THE RAPE, THEN THE CHANCES OF BEING PREGANT, DROP TO ALMOST ZERO. IT IS NOW UP TO HER, REPORT=LOW POSSIBLITY OF BEING PREGNANT, DNA USED TO CATCH THE RAPIST, TRIAL PUTS THIS DEGENERATE IN PRISON. BUT IF SHE DOESN'T! = THEN HER PROBLEM. ONCE THE HEART BEAT IS FOUND, SHE CAN'T KILL THE BABY. THAT IS JUST AS BAD AS THE RAPE, IF NOT WORSE. IMO.