Was the January 6 riot/insurrection defensible?

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Uh huh.

 

Most.

 

All

 

No. Trump lovers defend his rioting crowd and democrats excuse the George Floyd riots.

 

I saw all sorts of excuses being made by Democrats over the lawlessness committed by the BLM anarchists and looters.

 

Yes. That’s my point.

 

No one was going to hang Pence nor murder anyone stop with the hyperbole trying to make it worse than it was.

 

Was the January 6 riot/insurrection defensible?

Of course not. The only people who defend it are crackpots.

 

Some of us can distinguish between insurrections and riots.

 

You're using your magic 8-ball again?

 

No stating the facts. Who has been charged with such?

 

Not under law, and we are a nation of laws.

Even putting aside the visceral disgust every patriotic American feels when goons attack outnumbered police in an attempt to thwart democracy while the inciter pleasured himself by watching for over three hours, the answer is clearly, objectively, as a legal certitude, "No!"

More than 880 people have been charged with federal crimes arising from the riot. 272 face charges of assaulting or impeding officers, including 95 charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapons. More than 294 defendants have been charged with felony obstruction of an official proceeding.

The Justice Department says 412 people have pleaded guilty to a "variety" of federal charges with approximately 100 pleading guilty to felonies and another 313 have pleaded guilty to misdemeanors. DOJ says another 21 people have been found guilty at trial.

The failed defenses persist:

Jan. 6 rioter who claimed to be 'following presidential orders' sentenced
Dustin Byron Thompson received a 3-year prison sentence
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A federal judge on Friday sentenced an Ohio man who claimed he was only "following presidential orders" from Donald Trump when he stormed the U.S. Capitol to 3 years in prison.

The jury also found Thompson guilty of all five of the other charges in his indictment...

U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton told Thompson he could not understand how someone who had a college degree could "go down the rabbit hole" and believe "so much in a lie." The judge said Thompson had to pay a price for a "serious crime" that undermined the "integrity and existence of this country."​

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Some conspiracy theories turn out to be correct.
Most do not.

Equally of course a few people taking something to be a serious threat is not the same thing as it being a serious threat either.

It could be that you are right and everyone else is wrong, but it is more likely that you are wrong and everyone else is right.

 

Taken in isolation, (read out of context with the thread), I simply have no idea which politician you are referring to with this statement.
It's seems so true of all of them.

Biden or Trump?
Or some historical figure perhaps?

 

I absolutely agree.

In comparison to those events it is very difficult for me to describe the events of Jan 6 as a "riot" at all.

 

When the law is only applied to one political faction and not the other, it has become a tool of repression and not the shield of freedom.

It is quite necessary for the other faction to see a similar level of prosecutions from every BLM riot etc.

If they do not see this... well, you know what happens.
A political outsider like Trump gets elected on a wave of mistrust for the establishment.

 

The law is being applied to the goons to attacked outnumbered police defending democracy in an attempt to prevent Congress from certifying the will of the People, regardless of their party affiliation.

 

Oh, regardless of their political affiliation is it?

Ah. I see.

Why doesn't that cut both ways then?
Where are all the democratic affiliates to whom the law is being applied to regardless of affiliation?

It's just my perception of course. But I don't see them same things happening over the BLM and Antifa protests at all. None of the anti Trump riots.
How many outnumbered police were attacked then?



So you will get Trump again or another the same.
The perception I have is that there is not much justice in the USA.
Just political manoeuvrings.
Trumped up charges against Trump. How many ludicrous impeachments is it now?
(More for Biden presumably soon).

Who can take the law seriously when it is being so openly abused towards a political end?

 

If you are aware of Democratic goons attacking outnumbered police defending democracy in an attempt to prevent Congress from certifying the will of the People that is not being prosecuted, what "political faction" is that and when did that happen?

The goon attack of January 6, 2021 has been condemned by patriotic Republicans as well as patriotic Democrats and patriotic Independents.

(Dozens of Republican officeholders and Trump regime insiders testified under oah before the January 6 Committee.)

 

Yes, democratic goons attacked out numbered policemen for almost every day of the last few years.
The number of left wing riots was absolutely insane over that period.

Measured in hundreds.

Are there hundreds of protesters from each of those events undergoing prosecution? Presumably hundreds of thousands of such cases.
Or is that law reserved just for republicans?

I suspect the later to a large degree.
I think that there will have been some prosecutions but nothing like the same amount and from nothing like as extreme events as the left so recently participated in.


For the law to retain legitimacy there has to be a perception of justice.

 

Obviously, you are unaware of any Democratic goons attacking outnumbered police defending democracy in an attempt to prevent Congress from certifying the will of the People.

Please provide links to instances of your Democrats attacking outnumbered police anywhere and not being prosecuted by Republican or Democratic prosecutors.

Are you making that up?

 

George Floyd, the now rehabilitated felon

 

I think it rioting premature. We need to defortify our election system. Be more like France. No mail in except for over-seas military. Paper hand counted ballots. Photo ID to vote. Election day should be a holiday. Maybe we'll never again hear a TV star say she voted and that she voted for her son as well. And at future Republican peaceful protests, let us how the deep state does not embed apparent assets like apparently Ray Epps to instigate this kind of thing ever again.

 

It's a safe bet that all murders of police officers are committed by anti-Republicans ... commie, socialist or liberal democratic, I don't know.

Also fair to note that mainstream Repulicans both condemn the 1/6 riot and hold Trump at least partially responsible.