Was the January 6 riot/insurrection defensible?

Oh sure. Trump demanded that they be peaceful. But then there are texts, his other crybaby dog whistles telling them to go to the Capitol, his henchman and traitors Stone and Bannon communicating and coordinating with the kook militias, Trump angrily denouncing Pence ("hang Mike Pence! Hang Mike Pence!"----Maybe that's what he deserves."), then the assault on the Capitol, followed by the Orange Loser doing NOTHING for over 3 hours.

Why didn't he take action for over 3 hours to stop the violence if he didn't want his kooks to be violent? Answer that, because although the volume of facts destroys your ridiculous narrative, his inaction obliterates it.

Why didn't he lift a fat orange finger to stop it if he didn't want the violence?

Quite unreasonable, Rob.

 

You are really stretching it in order to change the thread topic to your topic, which seems to be a consistent pattern with you. If you have your own special topic that you want to discuss, why don't you simply start a thread about it?

 

Very reasonable, he was stunned and it's arguable he wouldn't have had any effect anyway. You just admitted Trump demanded they'd be peaceful? So everything else is irrelevant? Do tell me where he demanded they "Hang Mike Pence"?

 

*LOL*

He was "stunned" that they did what he wanted and attacked the Capitol? He was so stunned that he sat on his orange buttocks and watched TV?

Ridiculous, Rob.

 

I did are you denying it? What do you think happened in Florida 2000 how didnit end up in first the circuit court and then the Florida Supreme Court?

 

You claimed that the vote was "decertified". You weren't able to find any source that stated this. No courts stated that. No press accounts stated that. Just you, over 20 years later, stated that. So, yes, I'm denying it.

Try to be better at using words, my incorrect friend. Maybe not make things up all the time?

 

Did you know that Donald Trump made no effort to stop the attack on the Capitol because he was "stunned" into 3 hours of watching TV? @Reasonablerob

 

No evidence Pelosi ‘rejected’ Trump’s authorization for ‘20,000 National Guard’ before Jan. 6 attack

• There is no record of former President Donald Trump officially authorizing 20,000 National Guard troops for the U.S. Capitol ahead of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack.
  
  
• There is no evidence that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi denied such an authorization, and experts said she doesn’t have the authority to do so in the first place.
  
  
• A Vanity Fair report said Trump made a passing remark to his acting defense secretary about potentially needing 10,000 National Guard troops, not 20,000. But there’s no evidence the comment was treated as a formal authorization.
  

 

Or didn't think it would do any good?

 

But I seem to get from it is most people don't care. The people that do probably only care because they can try and pretend it's because Trump is the devil and that's all it is.

I would have loved to seen who was behind it but we can't do that now we had to pretend it was the end of times and now any mention of it just gets you laughed at.

 

Lol vanity fair reporting on nothing.

 

No, you just admitted in your previous post that he told them to protest peacefully?

"Oh sure. Trump demanded that they be peaceful."

And now you're desperately trying to change the subject rather than concede you were wrong.

 

*LOL*

I'm not the one ignoring the vast weight of the evidence. Now THAT'S desperation, my illogical amigo.

You seem obsessed with one phrase from his scabby orange lips when there's overwhelming evidence of his complicity in planning the attack on the Capitol.

Aside from the obviously criminal advice that he got from Eastman, Rudy, Stone and Bannon that's well evidenced (you need to pay better attention to the news, my ill-informed chum), and I've asked you this multiple times, give the forum a serious answer as to why he sat on his cottage cheese ass for over 3 hours while his idiots were ransacking the Capitol?

You earlier claimed that he was so "stunned" that he was frozen in place for the 3 hours. That's still your answer? *LOL*

 

*LOL*

Yes. He was "stunned" and therefore he sat and watched television instead of instructing his dimwit henchmen to stop attacking the Capitol.

 

*LOL*

And yet when he finally asked them to stop 3 hours later, they did. And he told them how "special" they were and that he "loved" them.

So, was he "stunned" or did he want them to attack the Capitol? If he was "stunned", it might've been because he heard someone make this terrible argument that you made.

 

1) There is a big difference between "most people," and "most people known by Polydectes."

A BIG Difference.
Trust me, P. There are still a lot of people who take this seriously; though in more cases than not, I would guess that it is really what that attack augurs, for our future, if there is no thorough reckoning, that is their greatest concern.

So no, you stopped trying to understand it, far too soon. For the most part, not wanting to simply forget about J6, isn't only for those who want to pretend that Trump is the Devil.

2) You are also mistaken, in your second main assertion. We have been ever learning more about "who was behind it." In fact, it's not much of a secret anymore, if it ever was. Again, you are premature-- this time, in judging what "we can't do." To any with an open mind, I think the huge amount of evidence we know of, is damningly large-- far more than it typically takes for you to reach final conclusions (as demonstrated, in your post). But eventually, it is not beyond the realm of possibility, this might even be proven in court.

 

It's irresponsible, unpatriotic and lazy if you "don't care" that a defeated incumbent President conspired with others to delay the certification of a new President by having a bunch of ignorant goons attack the Capitol.

I don't give a **** what some dimwits think about 1/6, and it's not about "Orange man bad". Although he's beyond bad, what he DID is what I'm focusing on. If people cared about this country, they'd focus on his conduct too.

 

Shalom Le Chef......
in my opinion a paradigm shift in economics and politics and government and spirituality is happening.......
This could all be compared to the division of the Red Sea in the time of Moses and ancient Israel.......

I personally do believe that the 2020 election was stolen because the people who told Biden that he could campaign from his basement......

.... were making their skills sound like they had greater value to him........

.... which is actually somewhat of a valid point..........


BIDEN WAS THE PERFECT ACTOR TO PLAY THE ROLE THAT THEY HAD IN MIND!!!!!!!

P. M. JUSTIN TRUDEAU IS ALOS RATHER PERFECT FOR WHAT THEY HAD IN MIND!!!!!!

MY OPINION ON THIS TOPIC IS NOT AT ALL IN LINE WITH THAT OF THE MAJORITY OF THOSE WHO ANSWERED THIS POLL SO FAR!


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Do you condemn, unequivocally, the January 6 riot inside the Capitol?

1. 
   Yes, with no reservation whatsoever
   29 vote(s)
   78.4%
2. *
   No, because the rioters were heroically trying to stop the steal
   1 vote(s)
   2.7%
3. 
   No, because as misguided as they were, their response was understandable
   3 vote(s)
   8.1%
4. 
   Riot? What riot?
   4 vote(s)
   10.8%

Change Your Vote


THE * INDICATES MY VOTE......
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No, because the rioters were heroically trying to stop the steal

 

There was no steal, that has been proven.

As far as whether it was the fault or not of Trump for the violent attack, let me say that he is responsible given that he asked them to go to the Capitol and therefore he is responsible for all actions of the mob, whether he said peacefully or not. The leader is ALWAYS responsible for what his people do..................no matter what he said.

 

READ MY CITE.....................

"After several recounts were inconclusive, Harris halted the recounting process, arguing that the laws governing recounts were unclear. The official vote totals showed the Republican candidate, Texas Governor George W. Bush, as the narrow winner of the statewide popular vote in Florida, so Harris certified the Republican slate of electors. This victory in Florida allowed Bush to obtain a narrow majority in the Electoral College and thereby prevail in the election. Her certification was upheld in the state circuit court, but subsequently overturned on appeal by the Florida Supreme Court. The Florida Supreme Court decision was reversed by the U.S. Supreme Court in Bush v. Gore (2000). In a per curiam decision, by a 7–2 vote, the Court held that the Florida Supreme Court's method for recounting ballots was a violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Furthermore, it held, by a 5–4 vote, that no alternative method for a recount could be established within the time limits set by the State of Florida. Sandra Day O'Connor's vote to stop the recount was crucial.[17] This decision allowed Harris' previous certification of Bush as the winner of Florida's electoral votes to stand."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Harris#2000_U.S._presidential_election

It was GORES APPEAL to the FSC. HE wanted the certification reversed so he go try and steal the election. It was a big deal at the time because the SecState has constitutional plenary power over her decision to certify the election. It was her discretion under the state constitution. The FSC said tried to say that she didn't properly use her discretion but could never state how. One reason the SCOTUS over turned it, the FSC couldn't state where they got the constitution authority to do so.

Were you not around then?

So stop with the leftist canards about nothing like that has ever happened in election challenges.

 

Sounds like Gore and the Florida Supreme Court committed insurrection, as I understand how the term is used these days.

 

He literally got the FSC to cancel and revoke the constitutional authority of the SecState claiming that they could decide her discretion was correct. And recall how the left attacked her calling her a witch attacking her personally? Back when women were still getting into higher positions in government.

 

Thank goodness their coup attempt failed.

 

Yes, that the people he told to peacefully and patriotically protest weren't?

NO EVIDENCE! No evidence whatsoever, we give you facts, you give us wishful thinking,

He was stunned, if he wanted them to attack the capitol why tell them to protest peacefully and patriotically?

 

The riot actually PREVENTED him from trying his plan to have some electors replaces. That is what the left keep ignoring. It was the last thing he needed to happen.