US Energy Department assesses Covid-19 likely resulted from lab leak, furthering US intel divide ove

No, it doesn't.
That's like saying if we have planes carrying over 10,000 passengers a day flying over a city and someone dies at the base of a skyscraper that has 1,000 people working on it than the odds are 10x greater that the person fell from one of the airplanes. Forget the fact that we have no record of someone ever falling from an airplane over that city.

We KNOW there are zoonotic transmissions. We KNOW there is a market that deals with live animals in that city, animals that we KNOW can carry the coronavirus.
And yet you want to claim that it is MORE likely that this came from a lab even though we have no record of such a thing ever happening before.

 

You're right, there is nothing I can say that is going to stop you from believing that.
As I said, I'm fighting misinformation. I'm not trying to convince YOU of anything, you've already admitted your mind is closed to any other explanation. What I am trying to do is fight the misinformation and provide reasons why your belief is unfounded.
I'm not doing it to convince you...I'm it doing to convince others who might think your arguments are valid that your reasoning is NOT valid.

 

You aren't really fighting misinformation though.

You don't have information to fight with on this. You are assuming too.

We are just giving different weight to factors that we base our assumptions on.

 

I have the information that zoonotic transmissions occur
I have the information that we have no record of a lab leak leading to transmission of a new disease.

You look at those FACTS and somehow conclude that COVID-19 came from the lab.
Anyone else should look at those facts and conclude, AT BEST, that we don't know but the odds are in favor of zoonotic transmission unless new information comes to light.

 

You act link the fact that there has never been a lab leak, means that a lab leak is impossible.

 

Nope, just that zoonotic transmission is MORE likely.

 

So you at least acknowledge that it's possible that it leaked from the lab, and it's not a fact that it was zoonotic, right?

Because i'm not suggesting that there is no chance it is zoonotic.

I'm just saying that the information that is available to all of us has led me to conclude that the most likely case is that it came from the lab.

I have not demanded that anyone agree with me, and the only reason i've argued with you about it is because you struck up a discussion with me about it, other wise, i would have respected your right think something different from me.

I'm not trying to force you to agree with me, you are trying to force me to agree with you.

 

I said it in an earlier post. I'm not trying to get you to agree with me. I'm just pointing out the flaws in your reasoning so that others can see it.

 

Our reasonings share the same flaw.

We are both making assumptions. We only have circumstantial evidence to go off of.

You are putting weight on the fact that zoonotic transmission has happened before, and that no virus has never escaped from a lab.

I'm putting weight on the fact that we've never had a novel virus begin in the same city as a lab that studies novel viruses.

I'm fine with you reaching the conclusion you have, because i can't know for sure.

I guess expecting the same from you is too much.

 

They have some of the best scientific resources. Bottom line is that it's fairly obvious to assume that the wuhan Covid Virus that somehow took corona virus and made it highly transmittal human to human, probably came from the Wuhan lab that was studying how to develop corona viruses that were highly transmittable human to human. I never understood the why the left made this so political and allowed the very people going around Obama and Trumps EO's, of not providing US funding for Gain of function research, to shut down the plausible explanation of a leak. Instead, they pushed the virus was like Saars and came from animals but in fact it was nothing like Saars in the sense that Saars never had a highly human transmissible factor, it's very difficult for this type of virus to learn human to human transmittal. But hey let's overlook the obvious for the unplausible because it will hurt a political person, all the while over a million died. Also, in the report it came to the conclusion that natural immunity was much more effective than the shot and booster. Another line of BS science was pushed on the American people.

 

Learn more some of the top scientist in the world study science at the department of energy. Also don't forget the former CDC director said it was likely it was a lab leak versus a corona virus from animal to human that had the capability for rapid transmission human to human. It's never happened before. He was called racist and everything in between for that statement and going against the lefty god fauci that was funneling US dollars to China to study these very things. Cover thy ass is what was bought and paid for political persecution.

 

As a matter of the OP, the Dept of Energy and it's purview over this SPECIFIC topic still seems out of place as a source for the WSJ along with the absolute LOWEST certainty standard of said report. As for scientific resources compared to other agencies, you'll have to link me to a source that supports your opinion stating exactly that. Rick Perry ran that department for the Trump Admin and he's as far from a genius as I can conclude. To your comment re the left, it is unworthy given that this specific OP does not support what you have assumed and are concluding. Without more info, we don't simply know with or without any real certainty. It's not a left or right issue, it's more of a blame game issue and without more certainty, it will never be resolved.

 

China says the might give Russia weapons in Ukraine... 2 days later this story comes out......hhhmmmmm

 

To get the public mad at china in case we need to stand on China for sending weapons to Russia

 

From the timing this is a valid possibility but the Dept of ENERGY?? WTF is up with that??!!

 

If I had to guess the government used a lower credibility department in case they needed to walk back the claim in the future. Imo but ya that is particularly strange lol

 

Yup!

 

Not if you knew the Department of Energy is over all the labs in the government. Lowest certainly ofcourse, China wouldn't allow anyone to see what they were working on, nor any evidence from the lab so how do we know it was a leak or was purposely leaked. John Stewart (lefty) had one of the best takes when comparing it to a chocolate spill that just so happened to be beside the Hersey factory, you may not know for sure but anyone with a brain will look there first. Unfortunately, the left wanted to politically persecute Trump and the guys' wanted their funding of illegal gain of function, kept secret because they may have literally funded the creation of a virus that killed 7m people. In 2014 Fauci himself argued gain of function and creating corona viruses that could rapidly spread is a good thing because it helps us understand how to fight future viruses. Whoops! The media played their duly noted lefty role in calling anyone not buying the bat bs as xenophobes, racists, not believing science blah blah. Most of our resident lefties bought it hook line and sinker. The department of energy which is over our labs believes it's more likely to come from a lab literally trying to develop corona viruses that spread in humans.

 

So no link to the Energy Dept having the caliber of scientists you have claimed, sound like your are making **** up. As for you immediately galloping to the Fauci as the debil and John Stewart as a cloak of ignorance rabbit hole, guess what, that hole is only big enough for one, and, you are already in it . Now, unless your can provide to citation requested, I will quite happily assume your post is still full of it.