US Energy Department assesses Covid-19 likely resulted from lab leak, furthering US intel divide ove

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  1. ButterBalls

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    Covid-19: US Energy Department assesses virus likely resulted from lab leak, furthering US intel divide | CNN Politics

    Here comes the truth! From the very get go many intelligent American recognized this while some simply defended the lies and muzzled the truth..

    Here is it put simply by Woody Harrelson on SNL and is now taking a beating from the left and propaganda outlets like MSNBCNN. This is just the start of the real story about this bag of lies the DNC dog and pony show fear mongered the U.S. with..

    Elon Musk Has Something to Say About Woody Harrelson Anti-Vax 'SNL' Speech (msn.com)

    ALL HAIL XI!
     
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    Seems like they aren't too confident in their assessment and are lacking concrete proof. I'm not sure if we will ever know because China will never let us investigate.
     
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    From the article.

    "Two sources said that the Department of Energy assessed in the intelligence report that it had “low confidence” the Covid-19 virus accidentally escaped from a lab in Wuhan."
     
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    John Stewart said that if there was a chocolate disaster in Hershey, Pennsylvania, we would all know it came from the chocolate factory.

    I think the lab leak theory should be the default position, and it should have been the default position all along.
     
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    So many of us, early on in 2019 made the observation of the progenity of this virus. And, we were and still are factually correct. The lab, using funds obtained during the Obama administration funneled through Fauci et al funded and illegal gain of function experiment in a lab that didn't have the necessary safety protocols, and it got away from them. Or, worse, it was purposefully unleashed by the Chinese.

    Years of caterwauling later, the story hasn't changed. Perhaps now we can hold those responsible for this global terrorism to account.
     
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    I 100% support gain of function studies.

    I just think we need to set up an international lab on Antarctica to do the research.
     
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    what am I missing here??

    seems to me the energy department would have information on energy, such as coal, oil, solar and nuclear energy

    and it seems to me the health department or the CDC would have information on diseases and viruses and other health concerns

    and it also seems the world health organization would have information on the origin of a pandemic causing virus

    can someone explain why the department of energy has information about the origin of a virus??
     
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    We have known this since 2020, but it is good that the government is finally admitting the truth instead of the Fauci/Democrat lies.
     
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    I'm trying to remember the right word for this type of self congratulatory self harm. No, we don't need government to figure out the best way to kill folks.
     
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    You clearly don't understand the value of gain of function research.

    Science can always be used for evil, that doesn't mean we shouldn't do science.
     
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    Bottom Line, without international investigators on the ground or given access to China and their internal docs, etc., it's still going to be virtually impossible to confirm or deny the origin. China will never give access if they have full culpability and exposure, they will deny and be quite happy with the world speculating. That's would indicate that they are likely guilty of a lab breach. It's not likely however that this was an intentional "internal" breach. They are still having issues with the virus in the homeland, not enough vaccines, etc.

    Serious Q, what does puzzle me is why specifically the Dept of Energy is involved in this issue and why did someone leak this inconclusive report with the lowest threshold of credibility?
     
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    Why?
    We know of cases of zoonotic transmission.
    I am not aware of ANY diseases caused by a virus that was leaked from a lab.
     
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    The odds of a zoonotic transmission in the same city as a lab that studies the exact type of virus that suddenly appeared, are lower than the virus emerging in that city because it escaped the lab.

    I feel better with the assumption that it leaked from the lab than the assumption that the Chinese government is telling the truth. Both theories require an assumption.
     
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    Really, how did you calculate those odds?

    Because, again, we KNOW of zoonotic transmissions. I am unaware of any lab leaks causing a disease.

    That would put zoonotic transmissions as 100% possible and lab leaks at 0% based on the history of such events.
     
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    So you think that if something has never happened before, it's possibility is 0? I think you need to retake statics class.
     
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    I think it's possibility is FAR less than the possibility of something we KNOW has happened before...on multiple occasions.

    Again, how did you calculate that the odds were better that it was a lab leak?
     
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    You seem to be confused.

    I don't care what you think about what I think.
     
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    You seem to be confused. You pulled something out of your a** and seem to think we should all believe it.
     
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    I never said you should believe anything.

    Me believing it seems to have triggered you.
     
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    What "triggers" me is the spread of disinformation.
    Believe what you want to believe...but when you try to pass off that belief as some sort of reliable information, and it isn't, then I have a problem.
     
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    Nothing anyone says about the origin of covid is based on reliable information.
     
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    This IS reliable information
    We KNOW of zoonotic transmissions.
    You still have not provided one example of a disease spreading because of a lab leak.

    Given those two FACTS the common sense approach is that the coronavirus that causes COVID-19 started as a zoonotic transmission and not a lab leak. To claim otherwise is irresponsible without reliable information.
     
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    Damn, someone should have told Trump lol
     
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    Common sense says that if you have a lab that works on novel viruses, and you get a novel virus in the same town, the lab is the most likely source.

    But you can believe whatever you want.

    I am going to keep saying i believe it leaked from the lab in Wuhuan. There isn't anything you will say that is ever going to stop me from believing that.
     
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    Oh we(?) will, and TRIED to make it known, but the DNC China sympathizers never accepted it. It's interesting, the more China leans towards cropping up Russia the more "Breaking and newly discovered" Wuhan information is reported.. Time to jingle the shinny's and catch the attention of the gullible and reverse all those negative claims that millions of people were socially banned for..
     

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