Anti-vax doctor Rashid Buttar has died

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    The title of the research cited...

    Potential health risks of mRNA-based vaccine therapy: A hypothesis

    Maybe you should dial it back a little.
     
  2. LangleyMan

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    I don't understand why people can't accept there is evidence the vaccines do some good and present a risk. We're not compelled to come down on one side or the other. In fact, I would hope that people researching the vaccines are looking at them objectively.
     
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    Feel free to play genetic Russian-roulette with a syringe.

    By the way, I remember it as if it was yesterday when Dr. Baltimore said that he envisions that some people might be leery of the experimental mRNA vaccination[sic] strategy that is altering their own DNA, even if it prevents a potentially fatal disease.

    "They" the "experimental mRNA vaccination" will permanently alter your DNA.

    From the New York Times, 3/15/15, "Protection Without a Vaccine." It describes the frontier of research with the use of "synthetic genes" to "protect against disease," while changing the genetic makeup of the human guinea pigs. "The first human trial based on this strategy - called immunoprophylaxis by gene transfer, or I.G.T. - is underway, and several new ones are planned." [That was eight years ago.]

    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/health/protection-without-a-vaccine.html

    And that is not science fiction. Here is the punchline: The mRNA jabs invade human cells with their payloads, and then the lab created synthetic gene is incorporated into the recipient's own DNA.

    The new lab created genes in the mRNA experimental jabs are said to instruct the human lab rats cells to begin manufacturing powerful antibodies.

    Spin the wheel, see what numbers come up. Good effects, bad effects, who knows?

    Thanks, but no thanks, but be my guest and step right up and take your chances.....:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

    By the way------> Don't tell me what to dial back or what to do.
     
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    The COVID vaccine has been shown to be ineffective. And that was AFTER they changed the definition of "vaccine" to fit with the claimed benefit of the COVID vaccine. It never met the pre COVID definition of a vaccine and still fails to meet the current definition.
     
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    He said all vaccinated people will be dead by 2025. Should I get more life-insurance?

    How ludicrous that his last act, probably knowing he was dying, he chose to stoke up the anti-vaxxers into a frenzy by this "I was poisoned" batshit.
     
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    Is this your "refer-to-Hollywood" theory? The "evil gubment" decided to "bump him off", AFTER he had ALREADY dumped pretty much every piece of disinformation crap possible? Yeah, that is such a logical thing to do!
     
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    Now they are both dead.
     
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    What a crock-of-conspiracy-crap! Griffin died of cancer and that idiot Buttar probably caught the virus!
     
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    What is this Dangerous conspiracy Yardmeat ? Enquiring minds want to know how dangerous it is to the world.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    but many have died and/or been harmed - From the Vax :) This must be the conspiracy Yard and Bower are talking about

    Which anti-vax conspiracy are you referring to Bower ..? Trying to track this thing down...
     
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    Anti-vaxx conspiracies. They are based on braindead nonsense and increase risks.
     
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    Soon, no one will be left to tell us vaxxed folks when we are going to die.
     
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    A conspiracy theorist dies. Apparently he died at home with his family, which tends to indicate cancer or some other terminal illness.

    No, its not.
     
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    Right .. got that the first time .. but which conspiracy are you referring to .. there are many .. you talking about the Lab Leak Conspiracy ? .. what is the braindead nonsense that increases risk ? You talking about Fauci calling the theory a Conspiracy .. a Conspiracy ?

    No way to know what anti Vaxx conspiracy you are talking about ..
     
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    Which conspiracy is this now ... is a bunch of folks running around crying "Conspiracy" but non can manage to say which conspiracy they are talking about .. Hopefully you can say which of the vax conspiracies you are referring to.
     
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    I don't understand why the woke joke Biden Team can not accept that the Vax presents a significant risk either .. part of Cancel culture to dissappear evidence that goes against the Party line du jour.

    The question is whether the risk outweighs the good .. There is no evidence that the Vax does much good for healthy people.. seems to give some help to the severely immune compromized ..

    Your hope that researchers were objective is misplaced .. as even if they were the folks above these researchers put a lid on any info not in favor of Vax .. the media - including Social Media - "Sin of Omission gone wild" massive censorship campaigne of the most authoritarian nature.

    As it turns out .. while the vax provides no apparent benefit to healthy people .. the Risk of harm from the Vax is extremely high 100 times higher than the risk of harm bar for a vax to be taken off the market. Crazy off the charts risk of harm as far as Vaccines go .. which we really should not be calling this "Treatment" a vax.
     
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    "Disappear evidence?" You mean hide it? Misrepresent it?

    I don't know if they misrepresented or hid evidence covid vaccines had downsides as much as defended it against the anti-vaxxer onslaught. The media love the conflict and have no reason to show more than the government defense and the anti-vaxxer claims. There's plenty of evidence for and against the vaccines, lots of valid research, but the media don't present it.
    Older people, particularly those in their 80s, probably benefit even if they have good health.
    Are you sure your view of researchers isn't influenced by what the media are doing to hype the conflict?
    It still helps protect against serious disease and long covid, even with Omicron. I don't know how you can say their is no apparent benefit when the evidence is completely the other way. Perhaps you meant to say the potential harm outweighs the benefit?
    I don't think you can even come close to supporting these claims.
     
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    It's not just the "Biden Team"

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    "Over 10,000 categories of nearly 1.6 million adverse events – many of them serious and debilitating – brought to you by Pfizer!"

    LINK


    Pfizer, the U.S. and European regulators are ignoring the reality of what is being exposed by those insidious mRNA shots that all the sheep were blindly putting into their bodies via their arms.

    Funny that US health authorities aren’t even mentioning these devastating reports.

    These are the same authorities [trust institutions] who claim that they are so concerned about yours and your families health.[sic]

    The pseudo vaccine [which should have been canceled and stopped long ago] continues to be used, as if nothing happened; and no one is being held accountable.

    FAUX science by government authority; FAUX science by vaccine corporations; FAUX science by marketers; = FAUX science by predators.
     
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    Indeed the media hid evidence .. Censored / Canceled .. along with the Gov't .. and you do know .. because I told you numerous times.
    Why would that be .. ? and you have no idea whether what you are saying is true or false .. just parroting something you heard on CNN or similar state propaganda mouthpiece. You are having difficulty accepting the fact that they lied .. I understand .. it is big necessary illusion bubble popage .. many just cant accept..

    There is no evidence it protects against either serious desease or Long Covid .. and again you are making things up or just parroting what you think you may have heard .. what the evidence says is that the risk of harm from the vax was far greater than any benefit in the healthy population

    1) Protect against Transmission = False
    2) Vax an insignificant Risk of Harm = False 100 x greater harm than the Swine flue Vax which was taken off the market due to high risk of harm.

    3) helps protect against serious disease and Long Covid = False -- no evidence to support this in healthy people .. by healthy .. meaning not on deaths door anyway.

    4) Statistical Harm outweighs the benefit TRUE --- SAR is a staggering 1 in 700 for Moderna/Pfizer .. a super dangerous treatment.. odds of a healthy person hitting the hospital with covid .. a near death experience .. or dead .. with residual after effects .. Is What ? Healthy people were not showing up the hospital/dying from Covid in statistically significant numbers --- talking 1 in a million. and in the beginning it was even more ridiculously targeted to 80 years old and morbidly obese and immune compromized and 3 comorbidities. Most people not on the already dead category didn't even show symptoms never mind showing up at the hospital with some major adverse -- and there was no Vax -- so how much help would the vax have been .. none .. as there was nothing to help.

    by the time the Vax came .. Delta was already transitioning into Omicron ... which was much more transmissible ... but very low toxicity . not leading to long covid .. more like a normal flue bug .. not targeting the lower respiratory system .. so while more people were able to get it .. it wasn't dangerous .. Omicron was a Joke by Flue standards

    So no help to healthy folks - and in fact those that Jabbed are now getting sick more often .. increasing with the number of jabs take.

    Nasty nasty this Jab --- and the book has already been written .. still being canclelled/censored the Truth. Most people still buy the Lie . and are trained .. like we see so often on here - when come across information which conflicts with the State propaganda pablum the eyes go back in head and they run around crying "Conspiracy .. Conspiracy" like trained monkeys .. because they have been trained -- in a brilliant experiment .. but I digress.

    1 in 700 SAR (Severe Adverse Reaction) -- is Massive --- if you understood nothing else .. understand that.

    1 in 700
     
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    I know .. These people are liable for murder and serious harm. Vax NEVER should have been given to Children .. never to males 16-30 .. and not to healthy people in general.

    Turns out they knew this .. thanks to Australian freedom of info procurment of the initial trial results .. which we didn't know until just over xmas .. but they knew years ago .. SAR - 1 in 700 during the initial Trials. The Swine flue Vax had SAR of 1 in 100,000 .. and they took it off the market .. too dangerous.
     
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    You don't seem to understand why the media present biased news, and why some media present one slant while another presents a different view.
    I've presented the evidence several times on this forum.
    Have a nice day.
     
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    We didn't discuss the "Why" media presented the lies about the Vax that it did and continues to do but, what is it you don't think I understand ?

    Good that you provided some evidence .. on what subject we are not sure .. but will not change the fact that the Media Lied .. along with the Biden political pundits . about 1) Transmission 2) Risk of Harm 3) engaged in Sin of Omission - Censorship

    So tell us why the media and political Pundits did this ... what is it we do not understand ..
     
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    Phizer knowingly sent out contaminated Vax and versions they knew did not work at all and you don't understand? Large segments of our population were FORCED to accept that chemical Russian Roulette into their bodies...and you "don't understand"?

    The only people who "don't understand" the largest and deadliest con job ever pulled on the American people by this point are mental children.
     

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