Anti-vax doctor Rashid Buttar has died

The media presented facts you don't like, so you label their stories as lies.

I've presented evidence from Canada because idiot anti-vaxxers are all-in on attacking the government here.

The government in British Columbia has unionized workers keeping the stats on adverse reactions and they would blow the whistle in a heartbeat if the government started cooking the books.

The risk of taking the shot is not as great as you claim. Period. This is what the government of Canada reported on vaccinations.





Unvaccinated people were doing most of the dying despite an all-out effort to vaccinate the most vulnerable.

 

What facts do I not like .. that I have labeled as Lies. Just because you make up falsehoods about others .. does not make your claims true mate.

You were asked how many healthy people showed up at hospital and/or died --- The stats you presented were horribly missing information to make sense out of them ... Were the deaths in the beginning when there was no vax included in the total ? and most importantly .. now many of the folks were Healthy people.

Once you have that info.. you will be able to calculate a risk of harm--- so we can compare against risk of harm from the vax .. but you don't have that info .. so your little table is misleading propaganda ..

and last .. I already showed you Data from Alberta Canada === which showed that Healthy people were not showing up at the hospital and dying .. vaxed or unvaxed .. The stats you showed are only applicable to those who are nearly dead already.

 

It shows clearly that the unvaccinated were far more likely to end up in hospital with covid and die from it until we got to Omicron variant.

That's only point here I'm making. In Canada, the unvaccinated 15% did 47.6% of the dying.

Why are you trying so hard to prove the vaccines didn't protect against serious illness and death when the evidence is they did (before Omicron)?

 

No generally it doesn't outside of if you're 95 or have lung cancer.

Or unless you're Chinese and locked in a building where you starve to death.

 

No it isn't.

 

It's still killing people who are old and/or in poor health.

 

Keep your beliefs - and I hope you do not end with gasping for air from lung damage/heart failure so many have had from COVID

 

Covid is a cold for most people. People in frail health can die from the rhinovirus.

You can believe whatever propaganda you want I really don't think you have a choice based on where you live.

 

Dude .. what part of .. "the stats only relate to unhealthy people" did you not understand ?
Second - what part of do the stats include when no one was vaxed .. did you not understand ?

Third - I am not trying to prove anything .. other that what the facts are .. why are you in such denial of the facts ?

So NO .. the data does not show that the unvaxed were more likely to die from Covid. I shows that really unhealthy people have been more likely to die .. if the stats don't include any numbers from the time when all people were unvaxed .. and you don't know that .. so you can't even make this claim for the unhealthy people until you sort that one out.

Did I not run the actual numbers from the Alberta site for you way back .. Quite sure I did .. so what is this mental blockage all about -- returning to the same vomit.

Do you not understand by this point .. that our beloved Gov't agencies .. both here and in Canada .. and all over the world .. were lying. Is a tough one to deal with I know .. but this has been defacto proven to you with regard to Transmission .. so why are you surprised they lied about other things ?

 

Oh, I understand, but you don't. The stats show the vaccines saved lives, mostly of people who had conditions that made more susceptible to serious disease.

Too few people died from covid before the vaccines to support your proposition.

Anyway, I quoted British Columbia weekly reports on this forum. For example, Weds. Oct. 13, 2021...

"From Oct. 5-11, people not fully vaccinated accounted for 68.0% of cases and from Sept. 28-Oct. 11, they accounted for 73.4% of hospitalizations.

Past week cases (Oct. 5-11) – Total 4,206

• Not vaccinated: 2,571 (61.1%)
• Partially vaccinated: 291 (6.9%)
• Fully vaccinated: 1,344 (32.0%)

Past two weeks cases hospitalized (Sept. 28-Oct. 11) – Total 346

• Not vaccinated: 229 (66.2%)
• Partially vaccinated: 25 (7.2%)
• Fully vaccinated: 92 (26.6%)

Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 5-11)

• Not vaccinated: 278.3
• Partially vaccinated: 80.5
• Fully vaccinated: 32.1

Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Sept. 28-Oct. 11)

• Not vaccinated: 36.7
• Partially vaccinated: 10.7
• Fully vaccinated: 2.1"

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https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0061-001968

See above about British Columbia.

A worldwide conspiracy? What do you know about Canada?

They government got all those unionized medical staff to lie for them?

 

So what? It kills others.

Says you to a medical professional.

 

How many was that .. and what is the ratio with respect of how many got Covid -- you have no idea if your claim is true or false .. just talking to what you think sounds good .. so contrary to your claim YOU don't understand

What is "Mostly" ? you don't have the faintest idea how many healthy people's lives were saved by the vax. This is important to quantify as we need this number in order to compare to risk of Death and/or Serious harm (SAR) from the Vax vs Risk of harm from remaining unvaxed. once again . it is You who doesn't understand ..

you repeated back to me what I just told you in the previous post .. and then cried that I don't understand.. You previously were claiming that the vax reduced harm and saved lives over the entire population .. not just the small sliver of extremely Unhealthy people who were about to die anyway. .. helped some of them to make it another few weeks.

They didn't need to .. and what a silly thing to say ? .. only needed to get the Talking Heads to lie -- who are Gov't employees. Your idea that they needed to get all the underlings to lie demonstrates further lack of understanding ..

I realize it is difficult for most to come to grips with the fact that the Gov't lied about 1) Transmission 2) Risk of Harm - but, to deny reality is to lie to oneself .. and that is no good.

 

I'm not going to do the math for you.

Hundreds of thousands of Americans were saved.

I'm still claiming it reduces the severity, even for teenagers.

I was pointing to the impossibility the vaccination and covid illness data could be cooked in British Columbia or Canada. What I told you is correct on the numbers of unvaccinated people catching covid and ending up in hospital.

I'd like to see you establish the British Columbia data is cooked.

 

***News flash***
Dr. Zelenko passed away in late June 2022 after a long battle with cancer
https://www.okaybliss.com/dr-vladimir-zelenko-death/

Does COVID cause cancer, that's new.

From the OP

 

A recent Danish study of the Pfizer COVID vaccine makes it clear that some people got a highly dangerous jabs and others got a placebo.

The Danish scientists uncovered very compelling evidence that a significant percentage of the vaccine batches from the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine that was widely distributed in the EU likely consisted of placebos, and the non-placebo batches demonstrated higher-than-normal severe adverse events in recipients, prompting their researchers to call for further investigation.

So not everyone who got the Covid jabs, got the kill shots, because that's easy to see, while others got lucky in the vaccine Russian roulette wheel; and were injected with saline.

See link below!

Batch-dependent safety of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 vaccine



And remember......

 

Did you read your cite?

"The present preliminary findings must be interpreted in the light of several limitations. The DKMA-managed spontaneous SAE reporting system in Denmark is a passive surveillance system akin to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) in the US, and reports from these systems are subject to reporting biases, with potential for both under- and over-reporting, as well as incomplete data and variable quality of the reported information. Owing to these inherent limitations, signals detected by these systems must be considered to be hypothesis-generating and generally cannot be used to establish causality."​

Do you "get it" now? Your cite says it isn't clear. Besides, the claim isn't about placebos, but instead about the handling of the vaccine and quality control in production.

 

Have you pro-vax people looked at any of the info on which the anti-vax people are basing their opinions?
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...rlds-population.602347/page-4#post-1074015039

 

Have you? You admit to being a complete layman so why would you even understand any of those spam links? Is this your "scientific method"? Dump some random links, with ZERO analysis, ZERO commentary, no attempt to verify, corroborate or, what REAL science does, attempt to disprove it!

 

I don't pay much attention to Rumble.

 

https://twitter.com/MurrayNewlands/status/870837568321007616/photo/1

 

Quite. It is the home of batshit.

Rumble Sends Viewers Tumbling Toward Misinformation | WIRED
"Now that YouTube has taken steps toward regulating misinformation and conspiracy theories, a new site, Rumble, has risen to take its place. Sarah feels the platform has taken her mother away from her."

Right-wing Video Site Rumble Grows, As Does Its Misinformation (ibtimes.com)

 

When the "box" is a place where people use logic, critical thinking, scientific rationale, known and proven science and full expertise, "thinking outside" of it deserves its own ludicrous dumping ground. Rumble is a nasty right wing website, capitalizing on the batshit world of conspiracies and making money from very gullible, easily-led people.
Almost EVERY keyword brings up the batshit version of events. If you type in "vaccine" there will be zero informative videos demonstrating decades of detailed science, you will get one moronic video after another.

The internet was always going to break.

You have two choices, the correct one and the batshit one. Unfortunately there is no way for the uninformed to work out which is which!

 

People who believe everything the mainstream media* say are the gullible easily-led people.

If you type the word "vaccine" in Google, you only get the mainstream version. Seeing that the mainstream media are known liars, people should be able to see both sides of issues. Censorship is only necessary when a lie is being defended. If all sides are presented, the truth will eventually prevail. That's why the establishment engages in censorship. They don't want the truth to prevail.


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http://www.politicalforum.com/index...at-the-lies-furiously.583345/#post-1072353798

 

Your "evidence" seems to be what you read in the mainstream. It may turn out to be true but it shouldn't be taken as fact. Check out what's being said in the alternative media and try to observe what's happening around you. What I see happening around me is vaccinated people are getting cancers and heart problems and blood clots and the unvaccinated are having no problems at all. What I see happening among the vaccinated is consistent with what this doctor says.

Dr Peterson Pierre Talks About The Increased Deaths Associated With The Vaccines Revealed By Coroners
https://www.brighteon.com/02702af4-f438-46a5-a18e-9f638b6a8b45


It seems to me that the mainstream media are lying.


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Here's a video that exposes mainstream lies.

Comparing Medical Truths With The Vaccine Lies Of The Deep State & Globalist Elites
https://www.brighteon.com/323e3f78-c670-4802-a1dd-49b6e18919a6

 

Not many people fall into that category. The mainstream media are a fairly small select outlet with a goal to capture an audience and revenue. However, understanding that most reporting in this narrow outlet is usually routinely accurate is something that most people get. But, those who dismiss every single thing that is reported are demonstrating wilful ignorance.

No, you get the science, the understanding, the peer-reviewed, and luckily none of the moronic batshit.

That is daft circular reasoning. Conspiracy batshit websites are the known liars, proven many times over.

False and more circular reasoning. It isn't being censored, stupidity is being filtered. Labelling things you don't believe or understand as a "lie" is just wrong.

False again and incredibly naive.

Nope. They are filtering stupidity to stop the easily led being easily led.