BLM group praises murder of civilian Israeli Jews

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Ronstar, Oct 17, 2023.

  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,458
    Likes Received:
    14,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    https://www.newsweek.com/black-lives-matter-praises-hamas-sparks-backlash-1833630

    "In a statement posted on social media, the BLM Grassroots chapter responded to the ongoing fighting between Hamas militants and Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) saying, "As the world is faced with deep questions about self-determination, as well all desire and pray for a world of peace, we must stand unwaveringly on the side of the oppressed. When a people have been subject to decades of apartheid and unimaginable violence, their resistance must not be condemned, but understood as a desperate act of self-defense."

    Racist scumbags. They clearly hate Jews if they think the murder of hundreds of civilians just because they are Israeli Jews, is ok. I'm not sure I can support BLM anymore.

    You cannot claim to support justice, humanity, freedom...and yet advocate for and support the murder of hundreds of innocent civilians just because they are Jews.
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe likes this.
  2. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,008
    Likes Received:
    17,318
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    When Hamas slaughters babies and Children, their credibility as a 'cause' is forfeited (not that they ever had it in the first place), and they join the ranks of rank terrorists. These monsters must be destroyed.

    As to BLM founders' claim of '[Palestinian] people have been subject to decades of apartheid and unimaginable violence', that is a claim which we must honestly and objectively assess. I do not know the truth on that score, but it should be investigated, as well, and let the chips fall where they may. Wrong is wrong, wherever it exists.
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2023
    Melb_muser, Jolly Penguin and FatBack like this.
  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,458
    Likes Received:
    14,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Apartheid? Yes.

    violence? yes.

    oppression? kinda.

    misery and poverty in Gaza? yes.

    does it justify/excuse murdering hundreds of civilian Jews????? no ****ing way!!!!!!

    This BLM group needs their heads examined and to reassess their priorities.
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2023
  4. roorooroo

    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 14, 2017
    Messages:
    2,815
    Likes Received:
    3,093
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    One problem with identity politics/virtue signaling is that sooner or later, the coalition will destroy itself with internal conflicts.
     
  5. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    53,133
    Likes Received:
    49,480
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The inspiring Spirit of BLM would matter and be more relevant if they said all lives matter and they protested police brutality not just based on skin color but the fact that it exists at all and then anyone at all suffers from it.

    The reality of blm is that the so-called leadership of the organization has done nothing but enrich themselves and be racist themselves.
     
    CKW, roorooroo, Steve N and 1 other person like this.
  6. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2015
    Messages:
    71,058
    Likes Received:
    90,807
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Because Israel requires everyone to serve in the military, blm has claimed that there are no true civilians in Israel and everyone is a military target. The did, however, forget to mention babies and everyone who is under the age of 18.
     
    Jolly Penguin and FatBack like this.
  7. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,458
    Likes Received:
    14,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Israel only has an army and reserve Force about 400,000. That is about 5% of the population. That means 95% of the Israeli people are civilians.
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2023
  8. Shutcie

    Shutcie Newly Registered Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2021
    Messages:
    1,440
    Likes Received:
    1,141
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The Palestinian authority pays terrorists who fight and they pay a pension to families of killed terrorists.
    They are not helpless victims of Israel.
    They are Israel's enemy.
     
  9. Jolly Penguin

    Jolly Penguin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2020
    Messages:
    8,379
    Likes Received:
    3,910
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I agree. And I would point to much of what the IDF and some American politicians are now saying as also extremely distrubing. There is plenty of really really hateful tribal language being spat from both sides of this issue.It saddens me that so many can't feel compassion for innocent victims within both Israel and Gaza. It is truly sickening.
     
    Patricio Da Silva likes this.
  10. Jolly Penguin

    Jolly Penguin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2020
    Messages:
    8,379
    Likes Received:
    3,910
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We've seen similar language from Israel and its supporters (including on this board), calling for the wholesale slaughter of all palestinians (whipe the whole place out), with the same twisted justification, saying they voted in Hamas and are therefore responsible. Its the same way of thinking as Bin Laden when he did 9/11 wrote. All Americans were responsible in his eyes for what the US miliatary had done to his people, so all Americans were targets, an so he claimed 9/11 was justifiable. Whether its the demonization of all Americans, All Israelis, or All Palestinians, all including newborn children, it is truly disturbing.
     
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2023
    Esau likes this.
  11. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,117
    Likes Received:
    51,795
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Any word from the SPLC? Are they supposed to be real hawks on anti-Semitism, or is that only for Moms who speak up at School board meetings about their children's education?
     
    Hotdogr, Steve N and CKW like this.
  12. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2017
    Messages:
    45,716
    Likes Received:
    26,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Right, because nothing can. But their unforgiveable act of violence doesn't change Israel's culpability for the abuses heaped on the citizens of Gaza.
     
    Esau and Jolly Penguin like this.
  13. Jolly Penguin

    Jolly Penguin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2020
    Messages:
    8,379
    Likes Received:
    3,910
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It seems exceedingly rare to find people who will recognize both that Hamas has done inexcusable terrorism and is fully responsible for it, and that Israel has done horrible abuse to Palestinians and should likewise be held responsible for it.
     
    Esau and Quantum Nerd like this.
  14. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2012
    Messages:
    57,190
    Likes Received:
    16,896
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They are who they have always been Marxist, racist asshats who remain firmly convinced that the oppressors are always the folks with the least amount of melanin. The actual facts on the ground are immaterial to the required narrative. And why does this ridiculous narrative exist? Because the rise of labor unions took all the sting out of workers unite you have nothing to lose but your chains.
     
    HockeyDad likes this.
  15. CKW

    CKW Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2010
    Messages:
    15,356
    Likes Received:
    3,414
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What exactly has Israel done "abusive" except keep their country secure against its enemies? They occupied Gaza after the war that was forced upon them, and then foolishly gave it back to the Palestinians, who then elected a terrorist organization-whose mission was to destroy Israel-- to run their society. After getting Gaza back, PA allocated payment to the families of terrorists when they kill Israelis. IWhy should Israel concede ANYTHING after it results in more war, more death and more insecurity for Israel.

    You rail against "culpable abuses" by Israel---when they are simply defending their nation while constantly giving concessions. Really---do you think they should open their borders? Should they not fight back? Do you think they should give up their country for the sake of the Palestinians? I'm very curious where your logic goes.
     
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2023
    Steve N, JohnHamilton and roorooroo like this.
  16. Shutcie

    Shutcie Newly Registered Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2021
    Messages:
    1,440
    Likes Received:
    1,141
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You do know that the Palestinian Authority pays HAMAS terrorists for fighting, and pays a pension to their families. The "abuses" heaped on the citizens of Gaza by Israel are sold to you courtesy of HAMAS.
    The Palestinian Authority Is Still Paying Terrorists | Opinion (newsweek.com)
     
    Steve N and CKW like this.
  17. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2012
    Messages:
    57,190
    Likes Received:
    16,896
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nope called for the extermination of Hamas unless you think everyone in Gaza is a Hamas member/ supporter that is wrong
     
  18. Jolly Penguin

    Jolly Penguin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2020
    Messages:
    8,379
    Likes Received:
    3,910
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Some call merely for the extermination of Hamas. Others generalize it to Palestinians at large. And some on the other side of this call for the end of the current Israeli abuses, others call for the end of the current Israeli regime, and others gneralize it to Jews at large.
     
    Esau likes this.
  19. JohnHamilton

    JohnHamilton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2022
    Messages:
    6,475
    Likes Received:
    5,270
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    If the Palestinians had chosen to live in peace with their Jewish neighbors, they would have had a home land long ago. Instead they chose to pursue the anti infidel policies that have kelp them in the dark ages for generations. Peaceful Israeli Arabs have more rights and more influence over their government than any other Arabs in the Middle East. Most Arabs live under dictatorships.
     
    CKW and Turtledude like this.
  20. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2015
    Messages:
    22,505
    Likes Received:
    11,194
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    When their antecedent was killing cops, it is not surprising BLM extends their mantra to other groups they hate.

    It would seem getting rained on by a couple of thousand missiles makes you the oppressed.
     
  21. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2012
    Messages:
    57,190
    Likes Received:
    16,896
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You are seeing something I haven't then. While I've seen way more calls for the extermination of the Israel and a few for the extermination of the Jews way more than I would hope the only think I've seen about the Palestinians is that given how Hamas operates getting rid of Hamas is almost certainly going to cause a lot of collateral damage.
     
  22. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,117
    Likes Received:
    51,795
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Another Person Who Ripped Down Israeli Hostage Posters Is Now Looking For Employment

    'this woman has been identified as Dr. Zena Al-Adeeb, an endodontist. Her employer has announced she has been fired effective October 21st.'

    [​IMG]

    'Boston, MA - a woman at an upscale shopping center in Chestnut Hill was spotted removing posters of Israeli children kidnapped to Gaza by Hamas terrorists.'

    The Jewish People in a America are getting a little alarmed at how many of these anti-Semitic extremists are doctors.

    She's attractive, looks bright, probably graduated from a top university, and she's a batshit crazy hater that sympathizes with those that murder, rape and slaughter innocent Jewish men, women, children and babies.
     
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2023
    roorooroo and Steve N like this.
  23. HockeyDad

    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2019
    Messages:
    5,318
    Likes Received:
    6,906
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    BLM have always been anti-white. BLM have always been anti-Semitic. BLM have always been communist. BLM have always been black nationalists. I assume you have carried water for them for years because they accomplished important political objectives for the left. Blaming white middle class suburbanites for problems in the black community due to their own making (and the harmful interventions of the left) is fine as long as gets it Democrats elected. Lets not pretend that the progressive left gives a damn about inner city black other than as a tool for them to consolidate power.

    upload_2023-10-22_21-16-17.png

    Regarding the terrorist attack on Israel. It is not hard to condemn it as another act of Muslim barbarity. This group has consistently led the world in terror and is also the group that progressives are doing everything in their power to get over here.

    Regarding Israel, lets not pretend that European Jews moving in their millions to Palestine around the turn of the last century was anything other than colonization. Not going to knock it, it was how we took over America. However, when you kick people off land they and their ancestors lived in for centuries, there are bound to be a few that are going to harbor grudges. America had many wars over many years with may tribes before it ended up taking the land from them. The problem Israel has is that Islam is a stronger force than progressivism. There are going to being decades more of bloodshed. As American power fades, it could be very bad in 50 years or so for Israel. Support for Israel is 75% lower in Gen Z than it is for baby boomers. This is diversity at work. The Christian right are the strongest supporters of Israel for religious reasons. This demographic gets a little bit smaller every year. If demographics are destiny, American support for Israel is GUARANTEED to end within the next century.
     
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2023
    roorooroo and Steve N like this.
  24. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2016
    Messages:
    26,537
    Likes Received:
    7,499
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You’re conflating Hamas and Palestinians. Hamas doesn’t take orders from Palestinians. So what BLM said is correct and is not as you present it.
     
  25. CornPop

    CornPop Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2022
    Messages:
    5,138
    Likes Received:
    4,543
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This should come as a surprise to no one. They've been celebrating people convicted of killing police officers since their inception.
     
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2023
    roorooroo and Steve N like this.

Share This Page