BLM group praises murder of civilian Israeli Jews

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  1. CornPop

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    "When a people have been subject to decades of apartheid and unimaginable violence, their resistance must not be condemned, but understood as a desperate act of self-defense."

    It says a lot if you think it's "correct" that a response to Hamas raping and killing innocent Israelis should not be condemnation. Do you always defend murder, raping, and killing innocent children, or does the fact that they're Jewish play a part? Is there anything Hamas could do that would be worthy of condemning them if this wasn't enough? Do you also support their tweet celebrating the paragliders who shot up a music festival. Someone in another thread defended it by claiming the concert was only a mile away from of a prison. I'm wondering what your take is on that. The defenses of Hamas and terrorism on this forum as of late are pretty sickening.
     
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    Well said BLM.

    Don't listen to the racist Zionist scumbags who want to gag free speech
     
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    Of course he's conflating them. It's the only way to rally the islamaphobic anti black racists
     
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    ironic:

     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yep, more irony

     
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    No, that isn't Israelis generally. That may be the action of the IDF. Most Israelis oppose such a thing, which is why the IDF denies it did this (if it did). Saying that's "Israelis" is like saying Germans are Nazis or that Americans are slavers.
     
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    I don't think the proper response is to fly off the handle and presume BLM meant any and every action of resistance, or support for Hamas, but instead to simply ask them how far they support resistance.

    That way you can get what they really mean directly on record rather than giving them wiggle room.

    One can support Palestinian resistance without supporting the slaughter of innocent civilians.
     
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    You wrote all that in response to somebody writing that Palestinians don't control Hamas. You responded as if they do.....
     
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    These BLM pigs who support terrorism against innocent Jews, are scum.
     
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    No, they also said: "So what BLM said is correct." Their statement was in response to the recent attacks on Israel and BLM said their actions "must not be condemned." The poster responded to this BLM statement. They didn't qualify their answer whatsoever, they simply agreed.
     
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    This BLM group refuses to condemn terrorism and murder against innocent Jews. They are pigs.
     
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    The official BLM, not just regional, has supported and celebrated convicted murderers of police officers from the very beginning. This doesn't surprise me. What does surprise me is the sheer number of people on this forum who agree with antisemitism and attempt to mitigate and defend it.

    The murder of innocent people, especially children, should always be condemned. There shouldn't be separate rules because of someone's religion or where they live.
     
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    If you remember the events, EVERYONE believed Israel was the bomber of the hospital, intentional or not.
     
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    That's because some people will believe any accusations anybody makes against Jews.
     
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    The Day the Delusions Died

    This article discusses the crushing of the paradigm of many on the Left that occurred when Hamas terrorists slaughtered and raped 1400 innocent people, families and communities in brief violent bloody orgy of unrestrained animalistic violence.

    Some remarked that that went to bed a Liberal on Oct 6 and were firmly fixed conservatives by the evening of Oct 7. While I don't believe that to be true, I do understand the sense they are describing of an abrupt shift in their world view.

    'Thomas Sowell, one of the most brilliant public intellectuals alive today, in 1987, published A Conflict of Visions. He offers a simple and powerful explanation of why people disagree about politics. We disagree about politics, because we disagree about human nature. We see the world through one of two competing visions, each of which tells a radically different story about human nature.'

    'Those with “unconstrained vision” think that humans are malleable and can be perfected. They believe that social ills and evils can be overcome through collective action that encourages humans to behave better. To subscribers of this view, poverty, crime, inequality, and war are not inevitable. Rather, they are puzzles that can be solved. We need only to say the right things, enact the right policies, and spend enough money, and we will suffer these social ills no more. This worldview is the foundation of the progressive mindset.'

    'By contrast, those who see the world through a “constrained vision” lens believe that human nature is a universal constant. No amount of social engineering can change the sober reality of human self-interest, or the fact that human empathy and social resources are necessarily scarce. People who see things this way believe that most political and social problems will never be “solved”; they can only be managed. This approach is the bedrock of the conservative worldview.'

    'Hamas’s barbarism—and the explanations and celebrations throughout the West that followed their orgy of violence—have forced an overnight exodus from the “unconstrained” camp into the “constrained” one.'

    Most of us find ourselves between these two camps, listening to both, and where one side seems to have greater explanatory power, applying their prescriptions, and where the other side seems to have the better argument, theirs.

    The Reality of Woke Ideology

    'Many people woke up on October 7 sympathetic to parts of woke ideology and went to bed that evening questioning how they had signed on to a worldview that had nothing to say about the mass rape and murder of innocent people by terrorists.'

    Actually, it's worse than that. We've seen open praise and adulation for the slaughter of Jewish and even American innocents.

    I'm in shock and still processing, but, I'm convinced that these folks are a very small, though very loud, extreme minority. They do not represent the anyone but themselves.

    This polling comes a group of respondents that favor a Dem Congress over a GOP Congress by +2, so it's slightly more to the Left than the RCP average which has Congress at R+0.3. But this group is very clear on who Hamas is and what the civilized world needs for Israel to do now.

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    We desire a path to peace, and clearly these folks who are doing what this title describes, are not walking on a road that will lead to peace.
     
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    Do they? So far I have not seen them either condemn it or refuse to condemn it when asked, but I don't watch them closely. Do you have a quote from doing the latter or explicitly supporting Hamas?
     
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    It's in the article.
     
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    How BLM is not labeled a terrorist hate group by now is amazing. How much more evidence is needed? Besides the violence, the hateful rhetoric and lies from its leaders and proven corruption of the donations, how can anyone support them? You ARE what you support. Their formation was based on lies anyway.
     
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    Great statement!
    Nothing more needs to be said about this. Long live Palestine!
    :)
     
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    Including Jewish news services?
     
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    such as?
     
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    Your link doesn't say anything about them praising murder or hating Jews. Did you link the wrong URL?
     
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    In response to Hamas attacking Israel:

    "When a people have been subject to decades of apartheid and unimaginable violence, their resistance must not be condemned, but understood as a desperate act of self-defense."
     
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    "we must stand unwaveringly on the side of the oppressed. When a people have been subject to decades of apartheid and unimaginable violence, their resistance must not be condemned, but understood as a desperate act of self-defense"
     
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    Yes, I saw that, I didn't see the part where they praise murder or hate Jews, but it looks like its your interpretation, and not something they said.

    Either way, I am not surprised they'd pick Palestinian side on this, and I dont think it makes them look good. .
     
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